For years I've had to bite my tongue whilst people in denial type things like "It's way underrated!" or "It's not that bad!" or "It's a great deal!" Cause you know, even though it was obviously a monstrosity, I'd never actually had any experience with one. And I choose to be an informed critic with exacting standards!!!

Last night I finally played one, at a barcade that for some reason decided to bring one in.

Sorry folks, this is one of the worst games ever made.

So stop trying to say it isn't. It's got several of the stupidest features I've ever seen on a pinball machine. The car crash thingee is an embarrassment to lower playfields. The huge ugly upper playfield with a spinning flipper with a guy doing the splits on top of it is a huge embarrassment to upper playfields. It has a third flipper for no particular reason. And it's got those wonderful gigantic Gottlieb gobble holes everywhere. Throw in the trademark horrific Gottlieb flippers, "feel," mechanics, and some of the worst dot matrix animations in the history of anything (and I'm counting Times Square billboards in the 1960s) and you've got a real winner.

The game is also horrifically ugly (no thanks to its truly atrocious theme), though by the time they got around to the artwork I'm sure they were literally making fun of themselves. Unfortunately (I guess?) I couldn't hear the sound, but I can only imagine what a treat for the ears that must be.

So look, I know you didn't ask for my opinion, but it's your own damn fault for trying to convince yourself and others that this game is anything more than the complete turd we all know it is. Stop it. STOP IT!

And by god, stop trying to sell these things for over $900.

I don't know...Space Jam? Never played that one either.

Did I mention those ridiculous trademarked premier "endless ball saves?" SHOOT AGAIN

so more like 15 minutes. I'm still trying to recover from the emotional trauma. Fortunately there was a Funhouse in disrepair right next to it that was much more fun.

No. It's kind of like Battlefield Earth.

So bad it's bad.

I've owned/played many of Gottlieb's 90s House of Horrors - Rescue 9/11, Waterworld, Freddy, Teed Off, Wipeout - and found redeeming qualities for all of them.

I've played Barbed Wire. And Street Fighter 2 is no Barbed Wire.

Never played it. Or Big Hurt. I can't imagine these are winners.

God yes. Absolutely horrible.

Did you know that when premier went tits up, frank Thomas was listed as a creditor? I guess he didn't get paid.

Waterworld has mad toys yo!

For me it was an Addams Family next to a CFTBL next to a Jurrasic Park next to a Class of 1812.

Two of the games got quarters and two didn't. THough all these years later I'm willing to concede JP ain't that bad.

Really?!

I guess you missed the other 18,574 Pinside threads dedicated to trashing a pinball.

Never even seen one. I've only heard the horror stories.

STOP SPREADING POSITIVITY IN MY HATE THREAD!

No manners!

Do they touch on SF2 or gottliebs in general?

I'll agree these are all fantastic attributes of Twilight Zone and CFTBL.

But this is a SF2 thread.

No shit. That's the whole point of this thread.

What was the tip off? The fact that a bunch of people hate SF2 and are willing to post about it?

You know a game is unwanted when Dennis Hopper's personal HUO copy sold for 1000 bucks at auction after his death.

Now THIS is the kind of hatefest I was hoping for before all these Premier Lovers invaded my thread with their unwanted positivity BS!

Keep it coming bros!

Right, exactly. That was the whole point! I've been reading SF2 apologists' tripe for years.

They are truly insane. The game is horrible in each and every way.

And the worst part about it is it's best possible use is as a parts machine...for some other Premier pile.

Sad!

Where the hell were all these people when I couldn't sell a fully working waterworld here for 900 bucks?! For literally a month I had it, begging some poor bastard to take it.

These premier dmd piles still Hoover around $1000, I don't care what anybody says. There are always exceptions (Freddy cause the theme and Stargate for some unfathomable reason) but by and large 10 benjamins should get you a premier game without much trouble.

Just killing time between another Otaku "I don't like this well established vendor who has been helping the hobby for decades and you shouldn't either" thread.

It's all I could handle bro, and it lasted forever. Really it was like playing 4 games of something else.

What was with Premier and their endless ballsaves? I had a Waterworld that would give out insane ball save whether you wanted them or not (you didn't). You can't fix in the settings either.

South Park has the humor, sound bites, and some good dots that put it way above SF2. Wouldn't have to think for even a second between choosing between those two!

Whatever floats your boat buddy.

Even SF2 hater haters are welcome in this thread!

Both shows have their moments and both can be terrible. But American Dad has Roger who is easily my favorite character of either show so I'll give that one the edge. I'd really just rather watch a show about him.

The Family Guy Star Wars episode was great but Empire and Jedi got progressively lamer.

Premier lovers invading my thread.

Honestly it's not cool.

But, I've learned if you truly love a thread, you must set it free.

If this thread can stop just one innocent person from making the life-altering mistake of buying a SF2...well it'll be a failure. I was hoping to stop lots of people.

Having that SF2 in the home is tantamount to child abuse!

This is my thread and it's very precious to me. Please refrain from hashtag abuse.

All this fussin' and a fightin' over street fighter 2.

It ain't worth it fellas.

I played it and it sucks.

Terribly informed. Terrible game.

Update:

Street Fighter II: still terrible.

That makes no since!

It's been a few weeks and I'm sad to report that this game continues to age poorly.

Yeah, trolling all 3 of those SF2 superfans out there. I know, it's uncalled for...

The problem is it's at best a $600 game, just like it has been for a decade. But lately, I've seen price creep on this monstrosity, and people are encouraging it by claiming "hey it's not so bad."

This kind of fake news is what's wrong with the country today! Also, get off my lawn.

So I'm not shaming anybody for owning it. I'm shaming people for claiming it's good.

For shame!

Popeye used to be "the worst game in pinball" which I always thought was unfair, especially in a world filled with Gottlieb System 3s. It's not THAT bad...but it's still that bad. The main issues with Popeye are an uninspired playfield layout with crap all over the place blocking the ball, and software that often makes zero sense. The upper playfield is the worst offender. It really doesn't tell you what to do, and if you actually manage to do it, it doesn't bother telling you what you did. I like the sound and music, and it's not the worst game ever made, but it's probably the worst WPC game. Pretty bad waste of a theme.

They managed to move some of these units, but I heard the not pathetic sales figures are due to Williams forcing distributors to buy them if they wanted the latest Mortal Kombat game.

When you "win" NOTHING appears on the screen - pretty sweet "reward" for something that's extremely difficult to do. Nor does it tell you WHY you want to "rescue sweet pea" in the first place. I still have no idea. Did I win points? If so, how many? Why did I just waste 10 trips to the upper playfield trying to accomplish this dull and trying task?

Don't take it personally man. There's plenty of reasons Popeye has such a bad rap and this is one of them.

Obviously.

It's still kind of a laborious task without a great payoff. Nobody has ever included Popeye's upper playfield on a list of the greats.

But hey you are missing the point...I do NOT think it's the worst game ever made! And this is a rep it had for a decade.

Thanks for including that clip so I know now, 10 years later, that I won 50 million points! The animation is cute too.

But "mr. sarcasm?" That's not really my thing, I think sarcasm is pretty much the laziest form of humor.

I do satire!

Not sure if you noticed, but you know what NOBODY will get from me? A thumbs down. because I completely blocked that idiotic feature months ago. Can I get some credit for that?

I just got rid of a Team One which is certainly the worst game I've owned in ages. Way too easy with a terrible ruleset, and ugly too.

If the game is so hot why are you trying to make it "great again?'

I don't understand this at all. What in the intervening 20 years made the "Great" SFII suddenly not great, and how is adding color to those terrible animations going to somehow return this heap to it's supposed greatness?

Please...explain your slogan as it makes no sense.

I'm unhappy about all this progress toward respectability. We need to MAKE SF2 SUCK AGAIN!

Just going along with the pretense that color DMD will somehow make it not suck, and begging to go back to non color so it indeed sucks again.

I think. Even I'm confused at this point.

All you gotta do is fix the playfield and art, and theme and then we'll really be cooking with gas!

Nice to meet you too taxie!

And there was a price on it- $1600. I tried to play it but there were too many people pointing and laughing around the game and price tag, I couldn't get in there.

I've got one!

Stern use that disgusting Poop Multiball not once, not twice, but THRICE! Poop multiball South Park...Poop multiball Austin Powers...and for some god forsaken reason that I'll never understand, they used the same poop multiball animation in CSI.

CSI?! Was there a lot of fecal matter in that show?

Fact!

"you guys" = every single person on pinside. Everybody here has games they think suck and love to talk about them.

That's the whole point. We are enjoying our bashing.

You can visit a pro-SF2 echo chamber here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/make-street-fighter-ii-great-again

Thank you drive through.

Seriously. Lighten up. It's a friggin' joke.

I can't believe people get upset about this stuff. It's a pinball machine, not your mom.

I've had people PM about SF2 begging me not to be so cruel. It boggles the mind.

If there's a crime against humanity here, it's not being perpetrated by the haters. It's by people who try to say this game is good and might trick unsuspecting suckers into buying this game.

Look, I get that people are passionate about their games, even stuff as awful as SF2. But why would you constantly come harass us in our beautiful SF2 hatethread when you know exactly what's here? And why would you do that when if WE visit an SF2 lovefest, we get nasty PMs and get ratted out to the mods for "trolling" when you are doing the same thing?

Mcpin54 has the right idea. If you come into a hatethread, might as well bask in the hate. It's obviously what you are gonna see there.

We're taking it back.

just a reminder.

it's still terrible.