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All, super late to the game on this...interested in a NIB Premium but looks like they are pretty much sold out (although a few price gougers out there). So question is, what do you all think of the Pro? Really like the projector and really, really want TK lock, but is the Pro acceptable (or more than acceptable?) fun and fine theme integration? I could always wait for a used premium but kinda want to move on this for wife's birthday! 
Quoted from cleland:I'll probably get flamed for this, but I have the Pro and don't think the projector is that much of a game changer. The real game changer is the UV kit, which works on both models. That along with my sound mod make it a great experience.
Thanks for the honesty!
After considering all of the fantastic responses to Pro vs Premium, I went ahead and am going with a Premium. Now, what do folks think about the Stern art blades or was thinking mirrors might look great with the Premium lightshow?
Joined the Premium club today! Woohoo! Been reading all things STh on this thread for months...pre-ordered the new TK ramp cover, was all ready to adjust demo and the left eject Wurt style....The TK is 90%, demo hittable int he mouth from both sides and the left kicker puts it into Burn it back (maybe 25% but it gets in that area). Anyway, I want to thank everyone for all of the great advice...although luckily this puppy came dialed in and didn't need adjusting!
ST2 (resized).jpgSTh1 (resized).jpgQuoted from Rascal-911:I am seriously considering buying a Stranger Things Premium, has to be NIB because there are no used units for sale in Canada. One thing holding me back at this point may be the possible infinite amount of tinkering that needs to be done, even right out of the box from what I am reading. Is this always the case with this title that it needs a lot of tweaking and fine adjustment to make it work right?
I just got a used one from a local pinball arcade. The owner did not dial it in at all. Been on location for 11 months. So far day 1 in my house it works like a dream. We did install the new ramp cover. But NIB now should come with that cover pre-installed.
Hi all.
When balls roll out of the orbits down towards the flippers, are they supposed to hit the slingshots? Most pins this doesn't happen. Mine are hitting and activating slings almost every time which leads to sling bounces into outlanes and kinda stinks since you don't have any chance to control it. I am at 6.8 pitch and level. Thanks. LOVE this game.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Been covered a lot. I made this video. Others have tried to mess with the guides themselves. I didn’t need to.
Thank you, Chuck! I am going to try this tomorrow for the orbits. This will make the game so much more fun and also beatable.
Quoted from chuckwurt:I don’t think I could ever beat this game if my game had inconsistent orbit feeds. It’s hard enough already.
totally agree. I need to fix these orbits tonight otherwise will never maximize the potential of the game.
So I followed the left orbit video guide Chuck (thank you). When ball has momentum its perfect now, drops right onto left flipper. But still when it comes out of mystery/Demo hole on left slowly, activates left sling. Have started just nudging the machine when its coming towards the sling and that works 90% of the time. Not sure if any other tips?
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:1- try increasing the pitch
2- Is the game levelled?
3- is the ball getting hit by the lock/release?
If yes to both #2 & #3, try replacing the spring power at the solenoid. I replaced mine with a system 11 flipper return spring ( minus 2 coils that I cut off ). This is the same length as the original spring but reduced power. I measured the springs with a scale and the system 11 is about 10% to 15% weaker (yes I am a nerd who used to have tools to gauge spring weight)
Here are some pics with my results and a pic of the springs. On the right is the original S11 spring before I cut 2 coils off. Doing this change the pattern in which the ball gets hit by the release and it helped in reducing the randomness.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Wow thank you this is awesome! Will assess.
Quoted from radfordian3505:Awesome I just ordered one this past Saturday. How long did your shipping take?
It took about 2 and a half weeks total from day I ordered. And funny thing was the live tracking app showed it would take a month. One day it just showed up a week and a half early!
Hi all,
Searched key posts and within thread but sooo many posts and could not easily find. Have a Premium and demogorgan is dialed in and very hittable from both flippers. But recently, particularly while in Can't stop this or Run Will, the demo isn't registering hits. Even when the ball sunk into his mouth it hasn't been registering consistently. Anyone having this issue and/or a fix?
thanks!
Quoted from swampfire:Demo “hits” are actually registered by optos right after the end of the ramp. Which is nice, if you’ve ever had to deal with a flaky Balrog switch on LOTR.
Thanks will look into testing and/or adjusting the optos. I figured it was more of a motion sensor since when the ball flies around and hits Demo it triggers. Also since the mouth wasn't sensing assumed it was a different opto. Anyways, thanks and will report back!
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:what do you mean it takes forever? easy gameplay overall and longer ball times?
are you guys saying that Stth > Deadpool ?
Owned DP for 2 years and I am not a tournament player. Love Marvel and DP theme. The animations, art and code are great, well done, very clean. Love the shots too. It just got boring after awhile and I find STh code to be much deeper. Fighting bosses twice (with Sauron added in background) in order to progress just gets super repetitive.
Quoted from RobT:I agree completely about loving "feast or famine" games.
I currently own both DPLE and STHLE, both are great pins in their own ways, but they are very different. DP has a lot of going for it in the call outs (way better than STh), the artwork (again, way better than STh) and definitely humor (disappointed in the complete lack of humor in STh).
Personally I think that DP is on the shallow side. You really only have the five main modes to complete, then some sub modes and mini wizard modes. The funny thing is I read about people saying that DP has long ball times, but DP can kick my ass pretty regularly. I don't feel like I have any particularly impressive scores on DP like I do on pins that are considered more difficult (like R&M, IM, and even STh for example).
I've had DP for almost 2 years, so I obviously like it, but I am having more enjoyment from STh currently, and I do not remember being anywhere near as addicted to playing DP even the first couple of months of owning it as I am with STh.
Totally agree with this assessment as someone who owned DP for 2 years.
Quoted from DaddyManD:Thanks will look into testing and/or adjusting the optos. I figured it was more of a motion sensor since when the ball flies around and hits Demo it triggers. Also since the mouth wasn't sensing assumed it was a different opto. Anyways, thanks and will report back!
Just reporting back here as I have seen other folks with similar problems with demo not registering hits. So the demo went from registering some hits, to registering no hits. When game boots up it works for a few hits then goes dead. In switch menu, the opto in the ramp housing works on boot up but then goes out dead over time. So clearly an opto issue or a bad connection. Solder looks a little sketchy so for $10 just ordered a replacement opto from PBL. Hoping this is a quick solve and will report back when I learn more.
Quoted from DaddyManD:Just reporting back here as I have seen other folks with similar problems with demo not registering hits. So the demo went from registering some hits, to registering no hits. When game boots up it works for a few hits then goes dead. In switch menu, the opto in the ramp housing works on boot up but then goes out dead over time. So clearly an opto issue or a bad connection. Solder looks a little sketchy so for $10 just ordered a replacement opto from PBL. Hoping this is a quick solve and will report back when I learn more.
Hi all. SO I tried resoldering the ramp opto and that did not fix it. I replaced the ramp opto with a new opto and that did not fix it. Basically, demo registers hits for first 10-20 mins on game power up. Works fine in switch test. then the demo stops registering hits and in switch test it no longer works. The red light is out on the opto. Traced wires back to CN11 on Node board where connections look OK and no Node board errors. I also thought maybe the stream was being blocked by plastics near demo but that doesn't seem to be the issue. My local pinball guy says these are tough to diagnose when you have intermittenet opto activity...any other ideas team? Could it be the receiver opto? Node board issue?
Quoted from PinPickle:Incredible. Thank you for the video. Thank you Vireland as well. I had no idea opto was optical sensor. Soo awesome. I kept knocking the demo to see why it wouldn’t work.
Anyways, I got into the menu thanks to the video and it wasn’t working. I took the plastics off, gave the sensors a wipe and a wiggle and it started working. No idea what the issue was but it’s resolved and I can play cool beats like Chuck with my finger.
Thanks guys, really appreciate the help. [quoted image][quoted image]
PinPickle did this permanently solve your demo issue? Mine is doing the same thing. I have replaced the optos, adjusted the palstics etc, but the red light goes out after a few minutes of play and stops registering all demo hits (with exception of mouth hits or action button). Help appreciated and this greatly decreases game enjoyability and progress!
Quoted from PinPickle:No this didn’t fix the issue. It was a quick fix and after a few plays I got the same issue. I talked to my distributor and they sent a new opto. Haven’t had an issue since.
Thanks. Was it the opto transmitter on the right or the receiver on the left side of the ramp? I replaced the right opto but problem persists ):
Just curious and will try Stern support either way now. thanks
Quoted from chuckwurt:I would’ve replaced both anyway. Let us know how it goes after replacing the other. Optos are annoying if they start acting weird.
Intermittent Demogorgan hits registering: SOLVED
I have an update with good news! Pablo at Stern support got back to me with the attached pdf. He was super responsive and helpful! He said that this has been a common problem and has either been bad optos (which some on this board have experienced too) or been that the Ramp UP and DOWN switches are not triggering properly. If the game doesn't know the ramp is DOWN then the demo screen ramp optos are disabled. Turns out my ramp switches were both problematic. The DOWN switch was not being triggered when the ramp was fully down on the playfield. Only just as the ramp would be triggered to go back UP was the DOWN switch triggering. Problem two was that the UP switch was not triggering at all in any position. So with needle nose pliers I adjusted both the Down and Up switches so they would both trigger correctly (took a few times to get them both right with playfield up and down etc). Attached the pdf from Stern support and before and after pics of the switches (you can see where I gently bent them). So far, this appears to have solved the issue! I will play more next few days and let you know if any issues resurface.
chuckwurt I'd suggest a key post on this given its been an issue for others.
Thanks again!
Mike
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A very happy customer here with awesome new mods for STh and GOTG! Wizmod customer service was super responsive to a few questions I had. Item shipped within 5 business days. As with some other folks here, item was with US customs in Miami airport for about 2 weeks (no fault of Wizmod!). Honestly, it was worth the wait! These Wizpanels exceeded my expectations and really give the game new life (never realized how big and bare those speaker panels were before and a great place to add art). Thanks, WizardMod I'll be back for more in the future)!
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Quoted from PinRat:I picked up a Stranger Things LE a week and a half ago with <170 plays on it. The seller said he had it NIB, then sold to someone who put ~80 plays on it before buying it back from them and putting about another ~80 plays on it.
We've put over 250 on it since then, between me, my wife and our kids. I don't understand having these things and not using them. Then again this seller had two other games set up in his garage along with 7 more NIB games (some LE) and he said the bulk of his collection was in his basement. Maybe when you have that many you tend to spread it around more?
I have had similar thoughts seeing people selling JP premiums with 46 plays on marketplace?! I bought an AIQ with so few plays that I was suspicious actually. Guess some get on distro lists and buy games they don't really want in order to flip them later?
Quoted from KingVidiot:Someone asked me yesterday what my grail pin is, and it’s this game.
For me, the combination of layout, projector, uv kit, central bash toy with mouth skill shot, easy to shoot modes, music and theme, and general challenge all just click perfectly. Locking all 3 balls on the wall (super consistently now with the free ramp cover replacement I got from Stern) is the most satisfying ball lock mechanism in all of pinball.
I’ve done some mods myself, like drawing all new UV ink art on the art blades, flippers, and few other accessories. Super hard to get proper pictures of.
Also added a mirror above the pops, because I just love watching pops go off, haha. It’s one of the many simple joys in pinball.[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
Amazing work with the UV paint! Wow!
Quoted from NightTrain:Maybe check the home/end stop switches to make sure the game knows where the ramp is?
Yes under PF at the ramp mech there is a switch that tells the game if ramp is up or down. Mine needing adjusting. If you go into my key post about demogorgan not registering hits there are photos of the switch. Could be a different issue but worth trying.
Team,
An important day in our home. Owned STh Premium for 6 mos and first time ever getting Send it Back, Light the Fire, and Final Showdown! Improved on prior GC by 1 billion! It's all doable if you keep it up! Caffeine also really helps!
NQLPqeVw-971023316 (resized).jpegz1Nf58tz-971022931 (resized).jpegTeam, I turned on my STh premium today and it keeps rebooting over and over at the initialization screen. Projector turns on all white for a second or two then goes and game reboots. Have not moved it or recently done any updates (running cleland's latest code). Any ideas?
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:Try a new SD card with a fresh flash of the software to eliminate card issues
Thanks. but do cards fry over time? Just odd that it would be an SD card all of a sudden after months of working fine. I need to look to see if I have the cleland code still on my computer!
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:If you are still using the one that came with the machine they go bad. Quality is not good with them. Out of 4 nib machines I've had 2 bad ones and the other 2 I replaced before they could go bad. On my stranger things it would randomly not boot until I opened the coin door then try again. Odd for sure. Replaced card and never happened again. Guardians also had issues. First thing I do now is trash the sd card and flash the latest software on a new one.
Thanks very helpful and will give it a try! Its not the stock SD card but a new SD card with cleland code I installed about 1 year go.
Quoted from Ashram56:SD cards are notoriously know for going bad over time, as every Raspberry Pi enthusiast will tell you. Unless you use industrial class SD cards, which I do, in which case their lifetime is a few orders of magnitude above regular 'consumer grade' SD cards.
Thanks. Any examples of industrial class? I don't mind spending a little more to avoid this issue from recurring across my machines.
So I had been having boot up issues where the game kept restarting over and over. Folks on here pointed me to the SD card which I swapped out and it worked for a day. Same on 2nd try. The weird thing is the issue started when I added a pinball life external audio controller. So I tried disconnecting it and the game boots fine now even with the prior cards that I thought were fried. Then reconnected it and game won't boot. Going to reach out to them for tech support but anyone else ever experience this on a pin or have explanations? It's plugged into CN3 on the board in backbox.
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:here's the original LE purple for reference (i just dig this photo )
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i think something like what my buddy did for his deadpool would be awesome, too:
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Thanks!!! Yeah the dark blue is also sick! I was looking at this Malbec color someone posted too
Quoted from cleland:My Pro is done in Prismatic Malbec. I think it looks awesome.
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Phenomenal cleland thanks for sharing! PS- When a pinball legend responds to my posts it gives me butterflies heehee
Quoted from SonOfaDiddly:I think the right red would make the art pop but you'd pretty much just be matching the Netflix logo color
yea my 1st world problem is I have 4 other machines with red armor so looking for something different.
For any owners who are interested as I am having my Premium powder coated.
I was lucky to have HemiOrange09 Steve from Pinball Refinery powder coat my STh Premium. Many of you kindly shared your powder colors recently and they were helpful in choosing mine. I decided to go with a blacklight/UV reactive pink color and could not be happier with the effect! Fits the game just right! Steve does amazing work and it was all done via shipping in less than 2 weeks! Highly recommend him for anyone considering powder coating their pins!
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32-1800
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Was this ever resolved? Have the same issue with the 090-5931-00-ND (32-1800) coil that brings 4-bank drops down fried and Marco and PBL sold out. Asking Pablo but checking here in meantime. There is a Bally/Williams 32-1800 available on Marco but wasn’t sure if this was exact same coil as Stern and would work?
Quoted from Thrillhouse:It looks like your opto behind the stand ups may be blocked and the game won't fully reset the bank as it thinks a ball is stuck behind them. Go into switch test mode and see what switch 84 is doing. Also look under the playfield and make sure both connections to the optos trans and receiver are hooked up properly.
Yes definitely check that the 4-bank opto sensor is working in switch test. Also check them demodog targets behind drops. FYI I just had relay coil 24 fail on me so my drops keep pulsing. In coil test they go up but not down. Pablo referred me to gameroom guys who are the only vendors left with that part in stock.
Quoted from DaddyManD:Yes definitely check that the 4-bank opto sensor is working in switch test. Also check them demodog targets behind drops. FYI I just had relay coil 24 fail on me so my drops keep pulsing. In coil test they go up but not down. Pablo referred me to gameroom guys who are the only vendors left with that part in stock.
if both coils work and switches all work check under the PF that nothing is blocking the drops from going all the way up or pulling down on them. Suppose could also be a blown transistor that is telling one or both coils to keep activating but that’d be a little trickier to diagnose and recommend reaching out to Pablo at Stern tech support
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