Stern UV kit, spinning arcade sign from mezel mods, and the stern lighted dice shooter rod are a must
Stern UV kit, spinning arcade sign from mezel mods, and the stern lighted dice shooter rod are a must
Guys, please take a minute to rate this game. It absolutely deserves a great rating here on pinside IMO. Especially the Premium and LE. It's such a great game that still has that "one more game" feel after hundreds of games played.
The premium hasn't even reached the threshold of 25 ratings to be included in the top 100. Only 15 people have rated it so far.
I know, some of you will say "the top 100 and the ratings don't mean anything". You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
Thanks
Quoted from PinMonk:Slo-mo record the demogorgon entrance as you hit it over and over with the glass off from the left flipper (which should be the easiest). Then examine the slo-mo shots to see how exactly the ball is physically being rejected at the entrance (and if you happen to get one in, how does that look?). iPhone is a fantastic pinball diagnostic tool for this because of the slo-mo recording feature.
Once you have some slo-mo to go on, it will become less about guessing and more about fixing the actual issue with yours.
Ha, turns out my phone does have slo-mo. I didn't think I had anything that would do that. Will give it a try and see what's what. Thanks
Quoted from chuckwurt:Game isn’t complete. I’ll rate it when it reaches 1.0.
You make a valid point
Quoted from mzhulk:Stern UV kit, spinning arcade sign from mezel mods, and the stern lighted dice shooter rod are a must
Check, check, and check! (If only the damn shooter would actually LIGHT!)
Quoted from imagamejunky:The UV kit is just fantastic. Even better if you add titan glow rubbers. It even looks great in a well lit room.
I have the glow rubbers on my AFM, and they're cool and all. But doesn't the greenish hue look like crap on ST? Doesn't really match anything.
Quoted from imagamejunky:Guys, please take a minute to rate this game. It absolutely deserves a great rating here on pinside IMO. Especially the Premium and LE. It's such a great game that still has that "one more game" feel after hundreds of games played.
The premium hasn't even reached the threshold of 25 ratings to be included in the top 100. Only 15 people have rated it so far.
I know, some of you will say "the top 100 and the ratings don't mean anything". You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
Thanks
Nope. My 4-step plan for world domination of this game:
Step 1: Don't rate the game. Let the pre-judgmental idiots around here continue to think the game sucks.
Step 2: Wait for Stern to discontinue production due to disappointing sales.
Step 3: Rate the game highly and watch as everybody realizes what a great game it truly is (like what happened with GOT).
Step 4: Profit.
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:Ha, turns out my phone does have slo-mo. I didn't think I had anything that would do that. Will give it a try and see what's what. Thanks
Most of them do these days. It's an excellent diagnostic tool. If you can't get it slow enough to see what's happening, send me a link to the video and I'll slow it down even more.
Quoted from beelzeboob:I have the glow rubbers on my AFM, and they're cool and all. But doesn't the greenish hue look like crap on ST? Doesn't really match anything.
Yes. Small price to pay for what they look like during the upside down though.
Quoted from imagamejunky:Guys, please take a minute to rate this game. It absolutely deserves a great rating here on pinside IMO. Especially the Premium and LE. It's such a great game that still has that "one more game" feel after hundreds of games played.
The premium hasn't even reached the threshold of 25 ratings to be included in the top 100. Only 15 people have rated it so far.
I know, some of you will say "the top 100 and the ratings don't mean anything". You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.
Thanks
Don't want to turn this into a Pro v. Premium/LE battle. But I like the Pro better for 2 or 3K less. The two premium/le features are underwhelming for me. Even the most ardent supporters of this game think the magnet lock just absolutely sucks. And the projector is all a matter of opinion. Does nothing for me. I prefer the Demogorgon emerging from Hawkins lab rather than a drive-in theater.
Assuming you have the magnet dialed it’s awesome. I was so glad to turn it back on after it being off for a month.
For those that have put the new ramp on is it digging into your playfield as well? It almost looks like it's cut through the new mylar. I'm getting an unsightly white line forming where it touches that is very noticeable after 2 days when the ramp is up. I tried cleaning it with novus but it only got marginally better.
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:For those that have put the new ramp on is it digging into your playfield as well? It almost looks like it's cut through the new mylar. I'm getting an unsightly white line forming where it touches that is very noticeable after 2 days when the ramp is up. I tried cleaning it with novus but it only got marginally better.
Maybe adjust the ramp position sensor underneath so it doesn't drop the ramp quite as far down, so the ramp is still making contact, but it's not digging in as hard.
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:ok cool, Didn't realize there was a sensor down there for it. Will take a look
One switch tells it when it's up, one tells it when it's down. You should be able to make it stop sooner by bending the "down sensor" switch arm a little so it triggers sooner.
If you need more than that, maybe you can loosen the collar on the drive arm and advance/retard it for a bigger change.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Assuming you have the magnet dialed it’s awesome. I was so glad to turn it back on after it being off for a month.
What success rate do you have with the dialed in lock mech?
I followed Sterns instructions and the reject rate is probably close to 80%
Quoted from Bingovit:What success rate do you have with the dialed in lock mech?
Almost 100%.
Here’s my most recent stream. Possibly 1-2 over almost 2:30 hours didn’t go when they probably should’ve.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Almost 100%.
Here’s my most recent stream. Possibly 1-2 over almost 2:30 hours didn’t go when they probably should’ve.
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/660602695
Okay so what’s different with your mech now?
Quoted from Dr-Willy:Okay so what’s different with your mech now?
Fans made the biggest difference. Then LOTR special coil for the extra boost of power to hold up over long periods.
I think PinMonk ’s fans will be great for everyone that is experiencing fade over long periods of play.
Like I’ve said before too Stern is definitely working on something as well. They want to improve the mech as much as possible.
Interested to see what they come up with and hope it fixes the issue for later runs of the game.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Fans made the biggest difference. Then LOTR special coil for the extra boost of power to hold up over long periods.
I think vireland ’s fans will be great for everyone that is experiencing fade over long periods of play.
Are you using the LOTR coil on both flippers or just the right?
Quoted from chuckwurt:Right only. Left it at stock power of 255. You have to cut the diode off it though.
But to be honest fans make the biggest difference. Definitely get vireland ’s when they are ready.
Harnesses for the fan kits are done. Just waiting for the first production samples to test. Everything else is ready to go.
I'm doing temperature testing on Iron Maiden coils this weekend to see what kind of temps it throws out for long games, too.
Quoted from PinMonk:One switch tells it when it's up, one tells it when it's down. You should be able to make it stop sooner by bending the "down sensor" switch arm a little so it triggers sooner.
If you need more than that, maybe you can loosen the collar on the drive arm and advance/retard it for a bigger change.
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I found the switches but there is not a lot of play there to adjust. While I had the glass off I took a look at the ramp closer both up and down before doing any adjustment and perhaps there is another issue. The ramp doesn't sit flush on the left side when the right side is completely flush and kinda digging into the playfield. Looks like about 1mm raised starting about a quarter into the ramp on from the left. This was something Pablo had me look at with the old ramp but it always sat flush all the way across so I didn't have to adjust it. Not sure what the process is for that.
I tried taking the slo-mo video and I was able to capture two successes and a few failures that I think should have gone in both high and low. There were a few that were pretty far off that I couldn't figure out how to edit out. My phone is old so lucky I was able to do slomo at all
Video here
Timecodes: Successes at 0:20, 4:05
Possible rejects high: 0:43, 1:00
Possible rejects low: 1:55, 2:27, 3:45
the rest of the shots were either wildly off or questionable on if they should make it. All shots were from the left flipper. I have 0 success so far from right flipper.
Getting it on youtube was easy, getting it off the phone I'm still working on. Can stick it on dropbox once I figure that out.
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In my new LE with Jan build date it was rejecting every single TK lock shot. I adjusted the coil position on the backside of the backboard so that the arm gap when triggered is about the width of the ball no more. When that didn’t work I noticed the measurement from ramp to top of arm was greater than the 2 inches so I bent that down until it was. When that didn’t work I adjusted the ramp as far downward towards the bottom of the playfield as possible. Bingo bango that did the trick. I still have had one or two rejects but most make it now. Thanks to chuckwurt for posting the stern guide to adjustments.
For what it’s worth having never played the game before, I can hit the demogorgan shot without issue from both flippers.
Nice! Sounds like yours was pretty solid out of the box.
I’ve found too that the 2” is a tad too much even and you can go under that and it will still make the magnet. Making that arm less steep will help when the flipper gets tired too.
Someone way back mentioned improving the timing of the diverter arm too and I think that has some merit. But no way to be sure until we see what stern comes up with.
Quoted from C0untDeM0net:Getting it on youtube was easy, getting it off the phone I'm still working on. Can stick it on dropbox once I figure that out.
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I was able to get the video from youtube and slowed it down some more, although with the speed of the ball, it doesn't help much more.
You might be able to loosen the hex screw for the collar that has the bump on it that triggers the switch to advance it a little so it turns off before the ramp is pushed too far down.
Quoted from Captchaos:Just received the ST shooter rod. No directions! Anyone know where to plug in the LED lead? Fits in one spot on the board but doesn't illuminate
Not coded yet apparently.
Quoted from Captchaos:Just received the ST shooter rod. No directions! Anyone know where to plug in the LED lead? Fits in one spot on the board but doesn't illuminate
The code to illuminate it hasn't been released yet, so dark shooter rod and bitter tears for you.
Quoted from Vitty:Someone was looking for photos of the shooter rod installed. Here ya go. [quoted image][quoted image]
Well...that's one way to light it up.
After HOURS of tries and slo mo video, adjusments, fine tuning, the TK Lock does NOT work with the ramp cover: the ball bounce on it 90% of the time and does not climb the arm, then gets rejected.
If I replace the ramp cover with a cardboard one, with the same shape as the plastic one, then the TK Lock works with a success rate of 90% and flipper power set to 210.
My game is setup at about 6.8 degree.
I HOPE that Stern will provide some fix for this mech.
Any really good video reviews of the latest code and full ruleset? My wife wants to watch one and doesn't want me to teach her.
Quoted from Looprunner:Any really good video reviews of the latest code and full ruleset? My wife wants to watch one and doesn't want me to teach her.
Not that I’ve seen. I’m waiting to do mine until the game is complete.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Not that I’ve seen. I’m waiting to do mine until the game is complete.
Thanks. Yep, I was looking and didn't see one.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Your guys’ ramps are down in attract mode?
Pro or premium? Mines never down in attract mode. And it’s always cycling through projector images.
Where is attract mode in settings I can’t find it
Quoted from Georgeh:Where is attract mode in settings I can’t find it
Not in there yet, if you're talking about the setting for the ramp behavior in attract mode.
Quoted from PinMonk:Not in there yet, if you're talking about the setting for the ramp behavior in attract mode.
Thanks bro but No I’m just trying to find setting to turn attract mode on or off I can’t find it
Quoted from Georgeh:Thanks bro but No I’m just trying to find setting to turn attract mode on or off I can’t find it
What do you mean? Attract mode is always on. There is a setting coming where you can specifically say whether you want the ramp to be up or down in attract mode for the Pro only. It’s not in the game yet though.
Quoted from chuckwurt:Great game!!
Thanks!
Finally knocked my son off of Grand champion
Quoted from finnflash:Thanks!
Finally knocked my son off of Grand champion
Let us know your final demo adjustment method...thx!
Quoted from billsfanmd:Let us know your final demo adjustment method...thx!
Mine was hitting low so I needed to lower it. I removed the thick black washers labeled #19 and added 2 thin metal washers in their place. It also worked better with my old ramp.
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I also removed the stand off directly under demos chin, and just added a nut to hold that screw in place.
Quoted from Leo13:After HOURS of tries and slo mo video, adjusments, fine tuning, the TK Lock does NOT work with the ramp cover: the ball bounce on it 90% of the time and does not climb the arm, then gets rejected.
If I replace the ramp cover with a cardboard one, with the same shape as the plastic one, then the TK Lock works with a success rate of 90% and flipper power set to 210.
My game is setup at about 6.8 degree.
I HOPE that Stern will provide some fix for this mech.
Yup.
Anyone know when we're getting another update? I'm picking up a shooter rod and want it to light up.
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