So I bought an inclinometer off of amazon and got my machine to 6.1° pitch and the bubble level is just about in the center. Just a little off. I played my machine to see how the new pitch would affect gameplay. WOW!!! It’s much harder now. I mean it plays super fast !!! I’m not used to that. I’ve had my game for a month now and I just finally got the pitch somewhat close and I can’t believe it plays like a totally different game now !!

Maybe they'll large scale manufacture an SE model with the uv kit installed.

What was it at before? Mines currently at 6.5 at the flippers and it's quite tough. Thinking about backing it down to 6.3 which is where I had it for a long while. I just wish it didn't hit the left sling every single time coming out of the mystery shot. Would probably have to be close to 7 degrees to have that not hit.

It was like 5° before I actually dialed it in. Seems very hard to play now. Just incredibly fast

hmm, ok I'll take a look at that as well. I can sometimes nudge the machine and get it to miss but it's not cleanly coming out of the mystery and riding along the guide. Makes two bounces along the guide then lands on the left sling. Maybe I need to have a little left lean in it as well

On the lane guides, are your machines on the right middle orbit behind the the small target on the left side of the right ramp? Wondering if I should adjust it so a miss hit or saucer shot to that area, the ball doesn't hit the back of the target rolling back down?

I picked up a Stranger Things pro for my friend and paid the extra $100 on 12/23/19.

That’s weird.... perhaps some distros rolled it out early?

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I was just watching the twitch stream from yesterday and mine is doing exactly what that machine was doing. maybe 8 out of 10 times it hits the sling.

No it was a stupid point.

1) Stern doesn't build to order. Stern takes stocking orders from distributors.
2) The angst over having to 'open up a game' is self-serving non-sense. I guess he and his sheep forgot what it takes to actually setup a NIB game? You know, the whole lifting 250lb things, bolting stuff together, opening the PF, removing shipping materials, tweaking things, checking for issues, etc. If someone isn't up for that, they should be using a retailer that offers onsite setup and services... not drop shipping games and parts.

It was completely manufactured drama that has no basis in reality. 'Hands off buyers' can use retailers/vendors that offer white glove services if that's what they need. Making something a 'built to order' feature because they don't want to open the game is like giving someone drowning a glass of water.

No, stern considers STH a 2020 game so it had the price increase.

Thank you. People do have a passion for pinball that's for sure . I see the same things at the airlines (I fly for one of the big 3). A company decides to charge for carry on's and change the seat pricing structure to reflect those new options. It's sold as a choice to the customers, but in reality it's goal is to make money. I can't fault Stern at all for making money. They aren't in this business for good will, they are trying to turn an increased profit. The difference in the airlines is there is competition to keep runaway marketing in check to an extent. So Airline A starts to charge for bags, Airline B follows suit...so on an so on..But Airline C comes along and offers free bags as a marketing move, but they change their pricing structure to match the now "free bags". So the competition drives the direction of perception. The key being they are now competing with each other than directly with the consumer.

Pinball has an unchecked marketing motive. Due to their surviving status from the Pinball death days, Stern has emerged the sole victor of manufacturing and licensing. This power, while normally tested with competition, is instead tested in its sales figures on each new Pin release. Stern, left without a large manufacturing competitor, has no other course but to increase profits year after year. I really hope companies like Deep Root and Haggis (playfields) emerge as competition to Stern not only to drive innovation, but to increase quality and set limits of what the sales market will take without using the consumer base as an emotional response test bed.

It's better for everyone in the long run...more quality and fair pricing to the consumer, increased industry interest, and the focus shifted away from one company (Stern in this case) as the monopolistic bully in the room.

5.0 degree slope? How do you even do that? Did you have front jacked up and back all the way down. I believe with all legs levelers flat most stern pins sit at 6-6.5....

anyone mind sharing the price the paid for a premium? pm is fine im just curious.

Yes. This. Exactly. I didn’t know what I was doing.

stern is up against it.

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I adjusted the incline back to 6.3 degrees at the flippers and now it's not hitting the slings at all. Looks like it's having enough time to settle and be directed away. Still can't hit the demo in the mouth but glad I can at least kill it now.

I think the bonus and scoring has been adjusted some as well. My scores were generally in the 150-200 mil range before the update at 6.5 degrees. Now it's more like in the 90-130 mil range at 6.3.

I played stranger things for the first time last night and the ball kept getting stuck in the area between the left ramp and the projector. Is this common, or does the machine just need tweaking?

The machine needs tweaking. It's a common issue easily resolved.

How many owners are complaining?

Stern Pinball Stranger Things UV Lighting Kit

- Custom interactive code will activate lighting during dramatic events and experiences throughout game play, immersing players into the Stranger Things universe

- Available in Pro Version (item # 502-7118-Q1) and Premium/LE Version (item # 502-7118-Q2)

Kit contains: New bottom arch w/LEDs installed, 8 new butyrates/plastics w/UV reactive ink, ramp LED boards mounted on install brackets, and fasteners

Pricing: $279 (Purchase directly from Stern Pinball shop.sternpinball.com or from your authorized dealer/distributor)

***Picture shown below is the Pro Version Kit with plastic arch. The Prem/LE Kit includes a powdercoated steel arch

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Can anyone here tell me how this one way gate is supposed to be oriented correctly here. I finally was able to gain access to it, but for the life of me can’t figure out which way it’s supposed to go in here.

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This doesn’t seem right ?

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Isn't the mounting spots and hardware different between the two? Regardless I'm sure it can work with the right hardware. Also sldnt the pro kit be slightly cheaper (25-40) bc it uses the plastic non powder coated aprons?

So I work at "CSI" and have an old Forensic light source that we do not use any more (Quaser 2000/30). I just had to dig it out to see the hidden artwork on the play field. I used the spectrum for UV 340-413 and you could see some of the artwork come out. Sorry that the clip is not very structured I just filmed what I saw but there is a lot of hidden stuff there. Very cool.

Not 100% sure but I think the aprons are mounted different, especially now that the Prem/LE has projector mounting on it

I thought the plastic ones use posts under where the apron cards are and the metal lock in with tabs and screws on the playfield supports. At least they use too

Bought my kit. This Dude abides!

I bought mine to.. Picking on my LE tomo

Just had this apart myself. here ya go

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OMG!!! Thank you brother!!! That made all the difference in the world!! I was looping that hook end all wrong !! Wow!! I love this forum.

Unboxed LE number 234 tonight.
1/31/2020 born on date on back.
Love Love Love it!!!
A few highlights:
Ball coming down left side goes directly to left flipper and not to slings. My game is at 6.8 pitch. Demogorgon is great, in my opinion. You can hit him or hit a perfect shot and blow that sucker up.
Lock on left ramp worked 90% of the time and only missed locking once out of many many games. Yep, one decal fell off the targets already. Who cares. Man I think this game is going to be out of this world with code and more call outs.

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Funny, I dropped the other thread and joined this one to avoid all of the infighting and bitching.

(In reference to the two pages of UV debate)

Me too