I’m glad I got it for my Premium as it is a cool design but I’m starting to get over the whole topper thing. Too expensive now and really not necessary. Only one worth owning is for GB on a premium Ecto 1 art package IMO. I won’t be purchasing anymore on future titles I buy.

I think it's pure looks on most games, the wow factor as you walk up and for those spectating. I have been waiting for one for months and the reality is, I don't look at the topper when I play the game. But I personally prefer the complete look of having one on my machines. I blame my Tommy for the silverball on top, it's what started my desire to have one for every game.

I had one and it's frankly underwhelming. Cool for about 5 minutes, and then you realize it only ever puts on a great show during attract mode.

And I say "I had one" because mine blew one (yes, one) LED so it's presently back at Stern being fixed or replaced. Which cost me $50 to ship back. Which sucks. (And when one LED goes out, it looks like a whole row is out because of the infinity mirror...so it's worse than it sounds.)

...and you call yourself a GOT fan. That topper is amazing.

R2d2 topper is pretty cool

I’ve never seen it in person, but I heard during telekinesis multi-ball, the topper floats 3 feet above the machine.

And then falls down unexpectedly like the balls “locked” in the TK lock…

Just left the club today. Had a chance to get my hands on LOTR. STh was at the bottom of the list. I will miss it.

Number 421 finally set up . I’m assuming all the white ramps and targets are normal for projector use ?

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yup,

dang im jealous... Ive got to find an LE.... My pro isn't cutting it

I can't believe someone would buy an le without knowing about the white projection surfaces.

I kind of agree. That’s what causes the images the projector projects to be visible. To each his own

Love the topper on this one. I have a feeling this game will become one of the more sought after Sterns so it’s worth some extra dressings

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Man this game is awesome in the dark , I don’t care what other people say stern makes some cool ass games

I have a pro in order. Last run. I also have the topper on order. I’m super excited for both. Glad to hear that the topper is worth it, but I’m a topper guy. Looks great.

Glad to hear that as well. I’m assuming you have the UV kit? I have that on order as well. Seems like this pin had gained a lot of momentum. I’m excited to add it to my lineup.

I totally agree except I’d throw Whitewater in with those as it is simply gorgeous to look at, fits the theme perfectly and came with the machine !
Those were the days !!!

I ordered from cointaker a good few months ago so I hope they get enough!!

Ok I just saw my first ball cling to the wall for ball lock .. wow ! Awesome ! This game rocks so far !

Has anyone hooked up an external sub to this machine? How do you do that?

External sub is a must add mod. I would recommend the Dayton Audio from parts express.

https://pinnovators.myshopify.com/products/pinsub-spike-spike2-stern-kit

The easiest way is to just run a speaker wire from the basebox speaker to the sub inputs. You can simply alligator clip on the positive and negative tabs on that speaker and run them into “speaker level inputs” on your sub.

EDIT…

I am also going to try to hook up 4 pins to a single sub with the Pinnovators kit. Eager to see how that works out. Seems to be highly recommended.

Soldered my Polk to STh sub leads, makes a huge difference.. love it with the cleland package.

Sub is awesome, especially with the Cleland mix.

For the source, you can run the line out from Node 0 from CN5 to RCA input.

I run alligator clipped speaker wire from the woofer of 2 games to one sub, polk psw 10. I currently have 5 of them hooked in pairs on ten games. Has worked great for me for years. U spend way less, and sounds waaaaaay better, for a decent powered sub split between 2 games than you would wasting money on the “speaker kits” many sell.
A nice powered sub is a audio game changer.

Is your video code with cleland’s mix available yet? Id love to see your video clips in attract.

I have the Pinsub Sam kit but I assume this can’t be adapted to this machine?

Hey, I've searched the forums a lot now and haven't found anything on this, but I have a problem on my NST machine.
The machine was NIB but it did only take a few months for this problem to show the first time:

The lock post BELOW the left ramp (where it stops the ball from the "mystery collect lane") sometimes doesn't come out and the ball isn't stopped. It just runs through. I've hd this problem and then it worked again and now it has happened again. Sometimes it starts to work again, though... It's really strange. Does somebody have oder had this problem, too?
I've looked into the playfield from below but I can't see anything unusual there. The post seems to move just fine and it doesn't get stuck on anything. You can press it down and it straight comes up. I've noticed for the games when it worked that the post comes out right after the ball rolled over it. But in the games where it didn't work the post just doesn't come up after the ball rolled over. Sometimes it goes up again. It always makes the loud sound from "going down" though. Even if it is already in the "down" position.

I hope it explained it in a way somebody can understand what's going on.
Does somebody have the problem and maybe know what to do about it?
For me it now feels like maybe a code problem or the plunger mechanism is somehow defective.

It's happening very often. Sometimes every time in one game. Last game it happened more often then not. (So the ball went through most of the time and the post didn't go up. Not after the ball, too)
Sometimes the post just acts normally again, though.
Could it maybe a sensor that misses the ball going in? Or is the standard position of the post "up"? I've watched it and in my machine it's sometimes up and sometimes down when tehre's no ball in it.

The default position of the post is up. A spring under the playfield pushes it back into position when the coil is off. The coil is used to retract the up post. It's an easy to get to mech and not much to it. Look to see if there is anything it could be getting caught on. I've adjusted mine slightly to make sure it is more centered in the playfield hole.

Thanks for your help so far!
OK, so maybe it sometimes gets stuck a little bit on the playfield itself? But does it even go down so much?
I've noticed that the post is not very centered but seems to be right a the top of its hole.
So maybe I need to readjust it then like you? (If yes: Is this hard to do? This is my first pinball machine and I've never done something like it)
Here is a picture of the post in question. The machine was off at the time of the photo. Right now it's turned off, too. But the post is down. It doesn't look as if it's caught onto something to be honest. It's not very far "down". I tried to take a picture now, but it's really difficult to take a good one. (Because my machine is standing next to a wall on the left side. I can take another one tomorrow, but I have to move the pinball table first.

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Just got my UV kit installed today, wow- So worth the wait!

I’m noticing that the images projected on the ramps are not in sync with each other, most noticeable when in TK Multiball, the work Jackpot on the right ramp is much smaller than the left and neither is really cantered on the ramp.
It seems the projector wheel only adjusts the focus on the main screen? Or am I missing something?

I did as you said today and now it seems to function normally again! Thank you so, so much for your help

Was messing with mine and noticed the "ROT" adjustment only seems to work when tweaking the main ramp and it will rotate. Don't see any rotation on any other targets when I adjust that, no matter what number I set it to. Is anyone else able to rotate targets?

Has anyone with the UV kit tried adding additional UV paint? If so, how did it work out, where did you apply and what brand did you use?

I was thinking that my drop targets (I swapped out to clear back lit drops) and possibly the flippers could use some upside down painting.

I havent thought to paint anything. I think the uv there is more than enough. I did however add glow rubbers which are pretty cool looking

Someone in this thread did it using a UV marker. Search UV and Amazon. They did the camaro and a few other things.

Thanks. I just ordered a couple of different markers. From the pictures on these it looks like UV yellow is the one that would most closely match.

Anyone with a Pro experiment yet with adding a projector?

Figure see if anyone has tried to make this mod work

Not worth the effort, and the result will always be way less-than. Get a Premium.

Kind of surprising Stern is making their last run Pros, though. There's a LOT of demand for Premiums. They should finish with that.

I have not been able to seek a Prem to even play within a few hours drive

Enjoy my pro

Just figure I’d ask about reflective paper and a projector

Yeah, it's not worth the trouble because the result will be poor. Spend the time looking for a Premium instead. You'll be a lot happier. They DO pop up for reasonable money from time to time.

Shame that you're kind of in a location pinball dead-zone, and even the closest STh pins are all Pros. But honestly, buy one used, try it, and if you flip it you likely will be even or down a few hundred at worst, so it's essentially a rental. Pretty sure you'll like it. It's a better experience than the Pro, especially once the TK lock is dialed in.