Yeah that’s the kind of game it’s gonna take to pry one of these away I feel. If you were closer I’d consider it because as much as I love my STh prem, Tron is the only game I kick myself for getting rid of. God I miss that game!

I love this game so much i now want a LE even despite it not being "worth it".

The pro is a really solid machine... I have 9 pins and it is everybody in my houses #1.

now who's ready to trade

Here’s the advice I’d give a new buyer right now. If you can find the Premium for under $8700 (with UV kit), and you’re comfortable working on things, buy it - you won’t have any trouble getting your money back out of it. In hindsight, I should have done that too. But if you can’t find the Premium (that’s most of us now), get the Pro and put $2500 into QQQ or a weekend getaway. It’s totally fine without the projector.

I think you hit the nail on the head as there is definitely demand for the premium. I'm sure calibrating the projector is a PITA in the factory as well.

Okay, I won’t do that.
I think I know what you mean though - when I play a GOT Pro, it feels “wrong”.

Premium is the only way to go IMO on any machine. I want to play the game the way it was intended by the designers. I’ve never bought a pro and prob never will. STh is a perfect example of this. The TK lock is an amazing feature along with the projector and shaking Demagorgan. If you’ve got $5500 to spend I’m sure you can find a way to scrounge up another $2000 for the added features. It is not that hard to dial in the table. It takes a little patience and a bit of trial and error but oh so worth it. Just my opinion obviously but I just feel in the case of STh you lose way to much “settling” for a pro.

I played the pro pre-pandemic because it was the only model available on location at the time. I liked the pro and there was some good flow, but I didn’t think too much of it. This spring I played an LE with projector, shaker, and UV kit at a showroom and I was blown away. I had come in for a JP but STh was all that was on my mind after I left the showroom. Now I have an LE(still in its box until I move) and I’m super excited. The projector adds a lot and the uv kit is super immersive. Also, I think the shaker is well used in STh. Anyways, grab a prem or LE if it’s avail.

You can backhand the lock shot on the left ramp on the Pro. It would be a very different game to me if I couldn’t do that. Sure, you can set up virtual locks on the Prem/LE, but then you don’t get the TK magnet - am I right about this?

No, you can have both.

Ah, cool. So if it makes the wall, you get a physical lock, and if it misses you get the virtual. That makes sense. Same as Aerosmith.

Well.. except if you don’t get enough speed and it comes back down the ramp towards the middle. Right now I think that would happen every time I tried a backhand lock.

Needs to be a solid back hand for sure

If you’re interested in a Pro, this is the best gameplay video I’ve seen for it. This is the one that helped me make my decision.

IMO the Pro vs. Pre/LE discussion is academic if you don’t have the game yet - the Pro is the only one left to buy. It was my favorite pin until I brought home TWD.

Premiums still pop up, and if they're dialed in, better than NIB.

That, I definitely agree with! If I’d played a Premium that was working right, I might have made a different decision.

My left saucer is always hitting the right post and never going down the burn it back loop. I've tried bending it and twisting it and I'm afraid I'm gonna damage the posts if I pull it any harder. Should I keep going with it, or am I missing something? I was following chuckwurt 's instructions on youtube on how to adjust it. I managed to get it going back that way once, but it wouldn't go far enough down the loop and just came right back out. I increased the power and it switched back to going straight at the post.

I'm also a little concerned with the scratches I've left on the ball guide above the saucer eject. Will that harm the pinballs?

I’m thinking of changing the eject back, so that it gently hits the drops. Making it go through the BIB loop feels a little like cheating, especially when I get 2 BIB’s for a weak feed. I’ve also noticed that I tend to get SDTM drains when the ball doesn’t make it all the way around.

I had to adjust the left target on the right ramp so on weak BIB where it comes back hugging the rail it hits it and lands on the left flipper. For me all that meant was making sure the target was perfectly centered in the hole.

Hitting the bib loop is a better design imo- I don’t understAnd the desicion to have it just hit the drops - kinda boring .. you’re hitting those the whole game already

Yeah, I’m having a hard time keeping that target fixed in place.

Ahhh! I didn't realize this wasn't intended!

What kind of sanding should I get to sand it back to smooth? (This is my first pin, and I've got a lot to learn!)

I find the design of that saucer shot and the kick out just odd tbh. I’m not wild on it and I’m not convinced something more satisfying couldn’t have been done with it.
I adjusted it and sometimes it hits the BIB loop, other times doesn’t. I’ve given up worrying about it. As others said hitting it for BIB awards every time feels like cheating anyway.

It would have been cool if the scoop had a VUK that fed the left ramp return like Star Trek. The way it is does feel very odd and clunky. Strange design choice.

Funny. I like the way it's designed. I find it's the safest way to hit the drop targets without risking STDM. Mine usually drops the 2 farthest right targets. Never STDM that way.

The ramp is directly over the saucer, so they would have had to add a curve to the ramp to make a VUK possible.

Mine kicks to the right of the target bank, halfway into the lane and the piddles back out to the flippers. Kind of lame...Any way to adjust that vuk to smack the targets?

Pre vs. Pro is a religious debate.

I think a lot of it depends on what you plan to use it for. I like the Pro, because generally you can put it in a location and have less to worry about. I also like having moar pins.

If I ever pick up a Deadpool or Iron Maiden, I’ll go Premium. Maiden for the artwork, and Deadpool for the drops and ramp changes.

I kind of wish that the saucer was coded so that during Tk multiball(and/or modes)it was used as a chance to hit a roaming drop target jackpot as a finish shot.

Or a game was for sale local enough to take a drive. Sure, you never wanted or played the game before and don’t watch the tv show it’s themed after. But you want something new to play for a while. Doesn’t matter what trim level it is since it’s not a long term keeper.

Except you can only send $500 initially to a "new guy" you met, and have to wait to send a mere $2500 to someone you have transaction experience with.

That’s how I ended with with my GOTLE. It was listed for about $800 under MSRP, with the topper. Had 50 plays on it. It’s a long drive from Atlanta to Orlando, but it was totally worth it. I went back for his AS a year later.

More tinkering later, found another problem. The demogorgon opto isn’t registering. Spent a bunch of effort dialing in the shot only to discover the opto isn’t working! Ha!

Tested it by sticking my finger down the monster’s gullet and wiggling. I can see the red LED on the receiver turning off, but the game board doesn’t register the opto being tripped.

So I was having a bunch of bad games and decided to drop the flippers. The only way I was able to hit the right ramp and both orbits was to hit it off the tip of the flippers till it actually wore them out. After dropping them I can now hit these shots more regularly but the center shots and demogorgon shots are more difficult. Interested to hear any comments or advice on dropping the flippers by others.

Yeah that was pretty much my opinion which is why I asked. I’ll put them back and continue to have the game kick my ass.

Is your game leveled and at a reasonable slope?

It’s level and the bubble is centered between the lines. I like pinball but pinball doesn’t like me.

Give it a few days, let yourself get dialed into the shots.

I usually play a different game for a bit when I'm clunking too many shots.

I got the game in September 2020. A few days have turned into many months. Just trying to progress past TI1. Loads of fun but seeing everyone else’s success, I was trying something different.

Try putting on Titan low bounce flipper bands...they are slightly thinner than stock rubbers and feel great on STH. And oddly, I can hit the Demogorgan mouth with these far more often than the stock or regular titans (but I have no real explanation for that) oh and the glow in the dark ones look great!

I paid for my STHLE with Zelle. The guy literally received payment on the spot while I watched it pop up on his smart phone. I added him to my list of recipients an hour or two before completing the transaction.

It was part cash, the rest on Zelle, but it was around $4k I believe.

This is consistent with my experience as well. Love Titans on this pin.