PM me lets discuss the possibility

My first weekend I had this game I put up 450 million. I have tons of games where I barely get to 100 now and my scores are usually 200-ish at best. No idea how I got 450 other than I was hitting the orbit shots well. I didn’t complete any modes, but I started several.

I’ve had mine for a week now, did this on my 15th game or so haha. Factory settings 3 ball normal tilt...games a bit easy imo

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I had previously only been breaking 1 bil on a good game with one score nearing 2 bil...this score reflects completion of everything in the game including all 7 stages of the wizard mode.

Oh totally that’s what I was going for on this game… I think I had three modes incomplete. It would be great if they would code a super wizard mode after the final showdown if you had completed every shot in every mode.

Now that I'm out playing in leagues and tournaments I'm not playing my machines as much as I was. I like to reset my games when friends come over as everyone likes putting their names on the leaderboards and I've only managed 500 mil as the GC in the last 2 weeks since the last reset and I've not seen TI1 yet lol. For me I can definitely get out of practice on a machine.

What happens when you collect all of the drawings? I had 14 in that last game (here’s the rest from that one 3bil game)

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Mine just left my house, never got to my 1B goal but I did get to 600M with factory settings only so I will take it.
Fun game I enjoyed it, looking forwards to the other games I will be getting.

I'll stick around and help people with the TK when needed because I am a nerd and like to help.

enjoy Stth!

When I get in these kind of ruts on a game, it means it's time to change things up a bit. I start with changing the pitch (either higher or lower) and checking the level left to right. I would also reduce the slingshot power, as this and many Sterns slingshots can be drain monsters at the factory setting. You could also consider changing the rubber, which would change the feel of the game (I am using Titans).

And if all else fails, definitely close up the outlanes before getting to the point that you get so frustrated that the pin isn't fun anymore.

If some are saying this game is too easy, and others are saying it’s too hard, then it must be just right.

Chisox give it a good clean and wax and see if it forgives you.

I found that after I did that on one of my games I was struggle bussing it played faster but I seemed to be hitting more shots and got back in the groove.

My theory is, as long as you trap and shoot religiously without ever flailing, all fan layouts are easy.

Question for owners - how do you like in in a home environment?

Thinking of picking one up because i like the atmosphere of it, the fan layout, and the center ramp shot. Would love to hear others' thoughts.

I recently got a Pro .Really enjoying it. The immersion with the whole sound and light package is fantastic - one of the best I'd say .The whole vibe just brilliant. Had some friends over and everyone was enjoying it - great excitement, lots of shouting and fun battling the Demogorgan. I would say the UV Kit and Clelands sound mod are a must.

Now when this was first revealed I was one of the Debbie downers, I was so disappointed it was a 2 flipper fan, that there wasn't more on the playfield , more quirky interesting stuff, ,just seemed a missed opportunity. But then I played a friends , and it was just so much fun to play, that I kind of got over the layout pretty quickly.

I have mine on location and likely won’t bring it home since I can breeze through most of the game. It’s deeper than it used to be but still nowhere as deep and engaging as IMDN, JP, DP, TSPP, LOTR etc. it’s good for some easy breezy flips but it’s not a serious players home game imo

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Either you’re a top 100 IFPA player, or you’re full of baloney. This is more of player’s game than anything in my collection. I even find TWD ago be easier than STH.

Whenever someone says “fan layout” my eyes roll back in my head. Any 2-flipper game is a fan layout, by definition. Because what else would it be?

Haha yes, this. A "traditional, boring" fan layout, or something with shots that don't actually work.

I’m a very good player but yes I understand your reaction to “fan” layout. Some are more obvious than others, STH being the leading culprit in this regard. I find two flipper games easier to shoot when you have the rudiments down pat. That’s all I’m sayin

There is a ton of content, many modes and mini wizard modes, super fun. The first demodog mode is retarded, other than that I love the code.

I like this mode now, other than not knowing when I’ve actually finished it. Stack it with a multiball. Or spam the 2 targets under the demagorgon.

Is the Premium still being made or pro only now?

YES! I love that sound.

Spamming the two targets is way too risky, and sure if you stack a multiball you might finish it but it’s still better to just focus on the multiball.

It’s just a bad design, way too many hits needed. They should have just made it that you should need to hit each target once with less time and you get a two ball multiball to hit the rest of the targets, like Martian multiball..... Or at least don’t have the mode deactivate the rest of the shots in the game, having to wait to time it out is brutal.

People like us who know the rules will have an advantage in a tournament. It’s easy enough to avoid the shot to start DD until you’ve first started a mode. Yeah, you’re robbed of the ability to spot shots until you get it out of the way. But when that happens I just focus on the right orbit and left ramp.

I agree, I don’t think it’s a game breaker but it’s one aspect that is not great design or very well thought out IMO.

I just want to record for posterity that I passed on a NIB LE for 10,750, and NIB Premium for 8300. I’ll check back in a year to see how I feel about those decisions.

i don't see them skyrocketing like jjp pirates, but my money is on them both being valued at least 1 grand above that in a year. we shall see..

You were right to keep it--it's a great game and you're pretty much synonymous with the game on this forum now. It'll be interesting to see how values are affected when the next season comes out...although I have a bad feeling the new season will suck.

Yeah, I feel similarly. The game seems easy, casual, but fun shooting. I mean, I can make the shots all day long and just halfway trying can reach Isolation. I find myself focusing on combos and enjoying the flow and not caring about score. Certainly not a difficult or challenging game.

I'm waiting for the much delayed Stern UV kit to arrive so I can then sell the game and get something fresh in its spot.

Why not? Money gets wired to you. You don't release it for shipping until the money clears. If there is an issue with shipping, that's between the buyer and the shipping company. Zero liability on you.

I personally won't have a game shipped to me. I don't trust shipping companies at all. But if someone wants to buy a game from me and roll the dice with shipping it, that's cool with me.

Agreed zero risk to the seller. I honestly rather sell to buyers that want it shipped, I don’t have to waste my time having a random guy come over and moving the game is a pain in the ass. STI does all the work for you and takes 5 minutes. My games are immaculate and when I sell I don’t hide anything so I know the buyer will be happy.

Any updates on the topper? Is July time frame still on the books? Hate no updates.

To each their own I suppose. I've had many people buy pins that wanted them shipped and they've all been happy as well.

OK my left orbit feed is annoying me a little.

Looking closely the post that drops to release the ball seems to clip it as it raises back up , this results in the ball being pushed against the ball guide , ricocheting back out so it never really hugs it. Then usually falls on to the left sling.

I think advice was to check level, or slightly lean machine to the left. Well tried that. No change.

Any other fixes to try ?

Hoping I got lucky with sti this time.. first time shipping a pin - Sth prem arriving today supposedly. The risk is def on the buyer. It’s tough to get games local if you are looking for something specific that most owners aren’t selling. Definitely prefer local when possible though