Tight is right. Big is bad.

No, it more had to do with a disussion about our lady friends.

But yes, for me, that tight shot on Houdini is one of the only redeeming things about that game.

Let's put some people at ease... One of us has played this game. I will say this. The Upper 1/3rd of the play field is super unique. The pop sling is nasty! (great thing!) and the Animations and music are so far absolutely amazing. Best Spooky game yet. You all are in for a crazy treat! This game will turn some heads.

Some shots should be challenging, no? This doesn't seem to be a problem.

I believe some are convinced a ball should never drain, and all ball times should be epic, so you can reach the wizard mode three times in every game.

Shouldn’t he be yelling Harsh harsh harsh!

In their defense they keep adding "wizard modes" to games to make it easier for them. I guess JJPOTC has 8+

Are we talking aboot Kenada? Because it's alright to mention him...I know it makes it seem cooler if you think you can't though.

Exactly. This is part of the reason I like the WMS system 9 & 11 games. Solid theme integration, but with a lot of challenge - especially with those games that don't have a early drain/ ball save feature.

Those people got banished from pinside two years ago.

So this needed its own thread huh.

Ah yes the great Purge!

No worries, someone is going through a phase right now.

"Hold on, he's going to speak"

Dude, he just wants to weed out all the Houdini hypocrites.

He's coming for you guys. You complained and laughed about Houdini's tight shots, without a care in the world.

Never knowing that another game one day may come out with tight shots, and you would be forced to face this cruel day of reckoning!!!!

HOW YOU LIKE THOSE APPLES MOFOS?!?!?! HOW DOES THIS HOT MISSLE OF TRUTH TASTE?!?!

I played a game with no hard shots once. It would never end. I think is was called something like Bored of the Slings.

You can tell just by looking at the pictures that there's some tight shots, especially the left loop shot off the upper right flipper. But goddammit, I'm holding Spooky responsible! How's that Dbag?

Houdini's tight shots suuuucked and made the game even worse no doubt. Let's not rush to judgment yet until we see this thing in motion but I hope it's not tight like Houdini everywhere. One shot or so no biggie....

"Have you now, or have you ever, been a member of the group of people who said Houdini had tight shots?"

I don't like where this is going. At long last, have you left no sense of decency, Dbag?!

When I was at a friend's house a couple weeks ago, one of the things I liked about playing Alice Cooper, is it seemed to have quite a few tight shots that took actual skill to make. As opposed to some of those wide open gapers on Elvira.

It's great to have you here to keep us all honest. I'm sure it must be a lonely job at times.

I'm with you on that, o-din. I was down at Flippers Arcade last week and finally got some time on ACNC. Yes, some of the shots are a little tight, but certainly not impossible. There should be some challenge in pinball. Play better!

I think it's only fair to call out the douche-baggery of those trolls that played one game on Houdini and declared it unplayable because of the trunk shot (which is actually one of the easier shots on Houdini) and completely ignore tight shots on other games. If you're in on a Rick and Morty I wouldn't start freaking out yet. You'll likely love the game and it's tight crevasses.

That being said...API didn't do itself any favors by having ridiculously short timers on modes and ball saves. If you're going to release a brutal game you should set the default rules to be more favorable to average to below-average players.

You're talking to a crew that found Ghostbusters unplayable, not because of the terrible artwork and theme, but because the flipper gap was a couple millimeters wider than they were used to, so they installed some conglomeration that added a center post to make it easier.

Is this some sort of double entendre?

It was two games I played at the same place if that's what you mean.

Crazy! I seem to remember Scott saying the same thing.

I do wish this post had a switch in it just to insult you for hitting it; "Dammit Morty! I put two shots right next to each other and you hit the only fucking thing I told you not to touch." A repeat shot progresses to Rick laughing hysterically.

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I think people's fears of this game being a wonka are coming true. By wonka i mean get a theme people like and put a load of cool stuff in the game that most people will never see because the gameplay and ruleset is too difficult for anyone that's not an insanely good player.

I believe it takes talent to get booted from your own thread.

The Houdini thing is false. People need to play better! I can hit that shot all day long. I am sure the Rick & Morty game is just as playable. Maybe Mr Fancypants needs to learn How to play pinball

Good, I'm tired of fan layout games with your standard two big ramps and orbits.

I agree with both of you!
easy games that aren’t challenging get boring fast.
I really enjoyed ALice C at Allentown this year because it was challenging but not a clunkfest like Houdini.
As much as I wanted to like Houdini due to it being a very cool theme , playing it reminded me of first playing pinball as a child in the 70’s where I would brick shot after shot.
Of course I’m only an average player so maybe it’s also due to that.

After a couple games on Houdini, I could just flow all over and hit everything without even really trying. Even the much maligned Black Widow ramp on Avengers - once I got used to the geometry, I could combo that ramp & it was ultra satisfying. Talking about tight shots out of the entire context of a game or only having played it a few times is meaningless.

Or maybe sour grapes because you didn't get a high enough number?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/rick-amp-morty-pinball-from-spooky?tu=Mrawesome44

Not a talent, it’s an instinct for D Bag. He gets booted from almost all threads.

Kaneda (and if you are reading this then please pay attention) will pull a Wonka on this game. He gets all crazy excited and sets unreasonable expectations on games. When they don't meet his expectations, then he trashes the game. Everyone knows the game will be unique and challenging. Why? Because we've seen TNA. Scott likes more classic solid state games. They are fast, brutal games. A lot of them had some really unique layouts and shots. This game will also have great lights, sounds, and humor. How do we know this...because that is what Spooky and Scott do best. The game will also have a great ruleset. Bowen re-created the ACNC ruleset to something unique and fantastic. Scott's rules for TNA are great. Kaneda has hated every Spooky game up to this point including TNA. Why would he change his mind? He is looking for a reason not to like it. My bet is that once it streams, he will start trashing it. He will sell his game on Ebay before it even gets made. His ADHD won't let him wait the 2 months to get it made. I love Spooky and respect Charlie, but it was a mistake to give Kaneda an early spot. Look how he repaid Jack for early access to Wonka. I hope I'm wrong because I don't want to see him drag Spooky through the mud. Rick and Morty will be a great game and I can't wait to play one. Hopefully someday I will pick one up second hand or get a spot if someone drops out. I got turned off by the show when I watched an early episode, but have since watched 2 full seasons worth and love the humor. Spooky and Scott will knock it out of the park! ACNC shots are tight, but it is my family's favorite game including my kids, ages 13 and 14 because it is unique and FUN!

^^^^I just read more words there than I ever listened to from the other guy^^^^

Why does anyone care what this Chris fella thinks? It's not like he's a designer or artist or a tournament director or even a very good player. He's not an oldtimer with cool stories, nor does he seem to have much knowledge about pinball in general aside from contemporary leaks. He's just some dude with a big mouth and a mic. Why do people keep posting about him?

He is - first and foremost - an entertainer. He would be the first to admit this. Take him with a grain of salt....maybe a block of salt.

Still, he's fun to listen to. Why the fuck not? It's fun to hear him challenge all the pinball manufacturers.

Doesn't mean I agree with everything he says.

Personally, I would be thrilled if R&M has tight shots. I love the old solid states; love TNA; love ACNC. If I want to crack a beer and get philosophical, I'll play Hobbit or BM 66...

I could tell you all about a game that has one shot so tight, you are lucky to make it once in an entire game. I could...

Spot number doesn't affect how the game shoots or is coded. Here's the hilarious part It's actually easier to get an earlier spot on the list now than buying a spot on the day sales opened up.

When are they gonna stream the game they announced and sold in December?

Has anyone here actually flipped it?

If you are buying a HUO game like this different is a good thing which includes difficult tight shots. TWD.......

As for deep and short ball times it’s a YOUR game. Put it on 8 ball if you suck and want to see it all. Lol