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PIN2DMD - LED color DMD solution for all resolutions (128x32, 128x16, 192x64)


By lucky1

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#1051 10 months ago

I'm going to be installing a Pin2DMD into my Data East Jurassic Park. Can someone please provide or point me to the installation instructions for the physical DMD (I already know how to do all of the software)? I just want to make sure I get the power connected correctly.

BTW, if you've not seen the JP colorization, it is really nice:

https://www.facebook.com/netz.zwerg.54

#1052 10 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

I'm going to be installing a Pin2DMD into my Data East Jurassic Park. Can someone please provide or point me to the installation instructions for the physical DMD (I already know how to do all of the software)? I just want to make sure I get the power connected correctly.
BTW, if you've not seen the JP colorization, it is really nice:

https://www.facebook.com/netz.zwerg.54

I believe theres a how to on youtube somewhere
Dont have the link but pretty sure

#1053 10 months ago
Quoted from jorro:

I believe theres a how to on youtube somewhere
Dont have the link but pretty sure

No luck finding anything. Anyway, I can figure out the 12V power, I just didn't know what to do with the DE video board. I've decided that I need to design a platform I can mount to my existing PIN2DMD acrylic frame.

#1054 10 months ago

Here is my solution for PIN2DMD on a Data East pin (Jurassic Park, specifically). I designed and 3D printed some 20mm spacers then mounted the DE video board on them. I had to move the power converter, but that was not an issue an all using an existing screw hole. I then aligned the board so as to have clearance for the DMD mounting screws, drilled the 4 holes, and voila!

Now, lets see if I can get it powered and working.

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#1055 10 months ago

Well, it took some effort to swap the DMDs between my two games, but I must say that the PIN2DMD JP colorization is excellent. I actually prefer it much more than the ColorDMD I had in the pin before. The only issue I had was the colorization not working, then I realized I probably needed to upgrade my firmware (I was on 2.54 and 3.12 is current). Anyway, once I upgraded the firmware the colorization worked perfectly.

#1056 10 months ago

Hi,
Which power a pin2dmd 192x64 needs to works properly? Is a 5v/8A is enough? Is Amp important? Thanks

#1057 10 months ago
Quoted from colonel_caverne:

Hi,
Which power a pin2dmd 192x64 needs to works properly? Is a 5v/8A is enough? Is Amp important? Thanks

Read about it here https://pin2dmd.com/hardware/ point 3
Some of the later batches of chinese P2 panels need the voltage to be set to 4.1V instead of 4.8V to work properly.

4 weeks later
#1058 9 months ago

Looking into having the EVO pcb cut and populated. I got a quote from pcbway, and it was around $75 per board shipped if I did a run of 10. Looking around, it looks like jlcpcb.com could do it for a good bit cheaper, but I would be on my own for the through hole components (which is fine).

Has anyone done a successful run through them? Their site is pretty self service, and I have a handful of components that I'm having difficulty in matching from the BOM:

1) Can't find same sized buttons for reset, etc. (430152043826). They have the following, e.g., which is a bit too small: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Tactile-Switches_XKB-Enterprise-TS-1187A-C-E-A_C318887.html/?href=jlc-SMT

2) Can't find exact match for the inductor SRP1265A-470M. They have the following in the stock which is similar in size, but it's only 2.5 amp instead of 6.5 amp: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Power-Inductors_Sunlord-SWRB1207S-470MT_C169376.html/?href=jlc-SMT. Is the 6.5 amps needed?

3) Can't find a clock crystal in the same package as FC4SDCBMF8.0-T1. The have the following in stock which looks close-ish: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/SMD-Crystal-Resonators_Harmony-Elec-X5H008000FC1H-X_C136084.html/?href=jlc-SMT

4) Can't find a match for SK54BTR. Can I drop in an rectifier that matches the max reverse voltage and amps, or is the lower voltage drop of this component super important?

5) Can't find an SD card socket of any kind. Is there another search term I should be trying?

6) They're out of stock on the STM32F427VIT6. Is an STM32F427VGT6 an appropriate substitute? They are the same size package from what I can tell and the data sheet bunches STM32F427xxxx together.

For fun, I cloned the repo w/ the evo files and downloaded the free version of EAGLE, but it seems the free version doesn't allow for editing of boards this size. Is there an open source/free alternative to EAGLE?

I'm pretty inexperienced in this area so...Is the design flow w/ EAGLE that I load the schematic file make my modifications, and then use that to generate the board/layout? Was playing w/ this in case 1-3 requires modification of the board to support the components that jlcpcb has on hand. (When I last did this way back when in college, I used that type of a flow, modifying the final layout as necessary.)

#1059 9 months ago
Quoted from joetechbob:

Looking into having the EVO pcb cut and populated. I got a quote from pcbway, and it was around $75 per board shipped if I did a run of 10. Looking around, it looks like jlcpcb.com could do it for a good bit cheaper, but I would be on my own for the through hole components (which is fine).
Has anyone done a successful run through them? Their site is pretty self service, and I have a handful of components that I'm having difficulty in matching from the BOM:
1) Can't find same sized buttons for reset, etc. (430152043826). They have the following, e.g., which is a bit too small: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Tactile-Switches_XKB-Enterprise-TS-1187A-C-E-A_C318887.html/?href=jlc-SMT
2) Can't find exact match for the inductor SRP1265A-470M. They have the following in the stock which is similar in size, but it's only 2.5 amp instead of 6.5 amp: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Power-Inductors_Sunlord-SWRB1207S-470MT_C169376.html/?href=jlc-SMT. Is the 6.5 amps needed?
3) Can't find a clock crystal in the same package as FC4SDCBMF8.0-T1. The have the following in stock which looks close-ish: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/SMD-Crystal-Resonators_Harmony-Elec-X5H008000FC1H-X_C136084.html/?href=jlc-SMT
4) Can't find a match for SK54BTR. Can I drop in an rectifier that matches the max reverse voltage and amps, or is the lower voltage drop of this component super important?
5) Can't find an SD card socket of any kind. Is there another search term I should be trying?
6) They're out of stock on the STM32F427VIT6. Is an STM32F427VGT6 an appropriate substitute? They are the same size package from what I can tell and the data sheet bunches STM32F427xxxx together.
For fun, I cloned the repo w/ the evo files and downloaded the free version of EAGLE, but it seems the free version doesn't allow for editing of boards this size. Is there an open source/free alternative to EAGLE?
I'm pretty inexperienced in this area so...Is the design flow w/ EAGLE that I load the schematic file make my modifications, and then use that to generate the board/layout? Was playing w/ this in case 1-3 requires modification of the board to support the components that jlcpcb has on hand. (When I last did this way back when in college, I used that type of a flow, modifying the final layout as necessary.)

2) Should have at least 4A
4) VGT has 2048 Flash VIT 1024. The flash is not only used for program storage.

#1060 9 months ago
Quoted from lucky1:

2) Should have at least 4A
4) VGT has 2048 Flash VIT 1024. The flash is not only used for program storage.

Thanks! Any constraints that I should be aware of on the rectifiers?

Have you been using EAGLE for your design work? Or are there better free alternatives?

#1061 9 months ago
Quoted from joetechbob:

Thanks! Any constraints that I should be aware of on the rectifiers?

Rectifiers ? I don´t use AC Voltage

Quoted from joetechbob:

are there better free alternatives?

I don´t know

#1062 9 months ago
Quoted from joetechbob:

Thanks! Any constraints that I should be aware of on the rectifiers?
Have you been using EAGLE for your design work? Or are there better free alternatives?

I have heard of Kicad but not used by myself

#1063 9 months ago

Sorry, the schottky diodes. Is the forward voltage drop super critical? Or any other constraints to be aware of?

#1064 9 months ago
Quoted from harig:

I have heard of Kicad but not used by myself

Thanks

1 week later
#1065 9 months ago

Hi,
I ordered some EVO boards from PcbWay and today I received this email:

"TS2940CP33 is out of stock, can we use AZ2940D-3.3TRE1 , brand DIODES instead? "

I don't understand much, can I confirm the change of component?

#1066 9 months ago
Quoted from torpedo:

Hi,
I ordered some EVO boards from PcbWay and today I received this email:
"TS2940CP33 is out of stock, can we use AZ2940D-3.3TRE1 , brand DIODES instead? "
I don't understand much, can I confirm the change of component?

Best place to ask such questions is here
http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/4196-ordering-evo-pcbs-at-chinese-manufactures-questions-and-help

AZ2940D-3.3TRE1 should work

#1067 9 months ago
1 week later
#1068 8 months ago

Important !! End of activation for Discovery STM32F407 V3 Shield based hardware :

Three years after introducing the completely new Nucleo STM32F429zi V4 Shield design which allowed us to build 128x32, 128x16 and 192x64 displays with the same hardware and lead to the EVO design, it is time for us to say goodbye to the old V3 shield hardware design. As a consequence we will stop giving out new activation keys for Discovery based PIN2DMD devices and custom boards based on the V3 schematics by the end of this year 31.12.2020. Firmware support will of course be continued as long as possible. Replacement keys with proof of destruction of the defective STM32F407 discovery board (picture of board physically destroyed) excepted. Too many support issues, like cheap chinese discovery clones or wrong enhancer configuration, which could have been avoided with the V4 design made this decision necessary to save my valuable time. We will keep the V3 shield design on github for all those who want to upgrade their hardware by replacing their old V1 or V2 shield.

If you start a new pin2dmd DIY build here is a very good V4 Nucleo based writeup
http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/3831-pin2dmd-for-125-diy/

#1069 8 months ago

If folks are having issues installing EVO boards on Data East machines, I've posted a spacer solution here:

https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4553809

2 weeks later
#1070 8 months ago
Quoted from drone:

If folks are having issues installing EVO boards on Data East machines, I've posted a spacer solution here:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4553809

Those worked great - I posted the results to your thingiverse page. Thanks again!

#1071 8 months ago

Is there a repository of colorization files yet? Cannot find anything.

#1072 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

Is there a repository of colorization files yet? Cannot find anything.

Not that I'm aware of, but the best place to look for titles is in the VP Universe forums.

http://vpuniverse.com/forums/forum/138-pin2dmd-dmd-colorization-works-in-progress

#1073 8 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

Not that I'm aware of, but the best place to look for titles is in the VP Universe forums.
http://vpuniverse.com/forums/forum/138-pin2dmd-dmd-colorization-works-in-progress

eh so still hardly any colorizations that are complete. thanks for the link though.

#1074 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

eh so still hardly any colorizations that are complete. thanks for the link though.

I think nobody changes the thread titles nor even edits the original post. You have to poke into the threads at the end to see kind of what the status is from what I can tell. But there *are* a good many completed games.

--Donnie

#1075 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

eh so still hardly any colorizations that are complete. thanks for the link though.

Ask here for the files
https://pin-display.ch/

#1076 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

eh so still hardly any colorizations that are complete. thanks for the link though.

There are several actually, what exactly are you looking for?

#1077 8 months ago
Quoted from Mr_Tantrum:

There are several actually, what exactly are you looking for?

I am looking for files that will work on the pin2dmd that i have for any game that i own. The one I have has the STM module on it. I have had it for probably 4 years and it is just sitting unused. I would love to get it working in a game though.

DMD games I have ngg, wcs, addams, congo, and spiderman

#1078 8 months ago
Quoted from djb_rh:

I think nobody changes the thread titles nor even edits the original post. You have to poke into the threads at the end to see kind of what the status is from what I can tell. But there *are* a good many completed games.
--Donnie

Yeah I guess I will have to go digging then.

#1079 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

I am looking for files that will work on the pin2dmd that i have for any game that i own. The one I have has the STM module on it. I have had it for probably 4 years and it is just sitting unused. I would love to get it working in a game though.
DMD games I have ngg, wcs, addams, congo, and spiderman

Addams is done by NetzZwerg http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/3746-the-addams-family-colorization/page/2/ and he is well know to do amazing colorization work. Just contact him about the real pin files.

#1080 8 months ago
Quoted from Syco54645:

I am looking for files that will work on the pin2dmd that i have for any game that i own. The one I have has the STM module on it. I have had it for probably 4 years and it is just sitting unused. I would love to get it working in a game though.
DMD games I have ngg, wcs, addams, congo, and spiderman

Malenko did wcs.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/pin2dmd-colorization-of-world-cup-94

#1081 8 months ago
Quoted from lucky1:

Addams is done by netzzwerg http://vpuniverse.com/forums/topic/3746-the-addams-family-colorization/page/2/ and he is well know to do amazing colorization work. Just contact him about the real pin files.

I can vouch for that. WAY better than the ColorDMD version, in fact. He may need to send you files that work specifically for a real game (some games only have files online that work on Virtual Pins, but the change to make them work on a real game is trivial)

#1082 8 months ago

I started it, but its been a group effort to do more. The people who took over have done a great job.

#1083 8 months ago

Latest WCS94 files are here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15F5QfX8MM-i6xUO8srj1fVqNOkUsuU_k
or
https://github.com/KOAmps/WCS94-Pin2dmd

I lost interest in finishing, it's very tedious work. All source files are there if someone else wants to continue.

#1084 8 months ago
Quoted from KOAmps:

I lost interest in finishing, it's very tedious work. All source files are there if someone else wants to continue.

I feel your pain

#1085 8 months ago
Quoted from Malenko:

I feel your pain

If there are sources to share on Getaway I'm sure someone will pick up, at least on one bug or two. I would try for sure!!

#1086 8 months ago

I tried working on the Getaway files and it crashed every time when loading one of the gz files can't remember which one. It's really good as is though so I never bothered trying again. I have my buddies Getaway in my basement right now and he's got a 2 billion plus high score on there that the colour doesn't quite line up on since it's so long that I was going to fix but couldn't.

Malenko's files are here: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1ezyqZ6VAHwOCeZzqoOF-npTQoozmL1lf

#1087 8 months ago
Quoted from Sprudeldudel:

If there are sources to share on Getaway I'm sure someone will pick up, at least on one bug or two. I would try for sure!!

I *always* release my source files with every game, the lone exceptions is the madmax customization Im doing because its a paid gig so its up to the person paying to decide if he wants it released.

I paused work on Getaway to finish madmax, after max is done I'll pick back up on it.

#1088 8 months ago
Quoted from Malenko:

I paused work on Getaway to finish madmax, after max is done I'll pick back up on it.

Sweeeeet!

Malenko, I just put a PIN2DMD in a few days ago with your current files. It already looks great, so I'm looking forward to the finished product. If you need any help testing or any dump files I can provide, I will be more than happy to help.

Thanks for the awesome work!

#1089 8 months ago
Quoted from KOAmps:

Latest WCS94 files are here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15F5QfX8MM-i6xUO8srj1fVqNOkUsuU_k
or
https://github.com/KOAmps/WCS94-Pin2dmd
I lost interest in finishing, it's very tedious work. All source files are there if someone else wants to continue.

Is in a "usable" state ? I mean working well with some screens which are not colored... or is it in a "buggy" state ?

#1090 8 months ago

The wcs94 I added to from Malenkos work is 80-90% done I’d say. Most of the regular gameplay is good, just missing a bunch during regular multiball and the where’s striker tv award animations need some work. I use it on my machine as is right now and it’s decent.

3 weeks later
#1091 7 months ago

Duplicate

#1092 7 months ago

Progress on Tee'd Off continues. I decided to replace the colorization of the original Outlane Duck flyby with a custom Duck Hunt version.
https://imgur.com/a/VbHUApZ

3 months later
#1093 3 months ago
Quoted from joetechbob:

Looking into having the EVO pcb cut and populated. I got a quote from pcbway, and it was around $75 per board shipped if I did a run of 10. Looking around, it looks like jlcpcb.com could do it for a good bit cheaper, but I would be on my own for the through hole components (which is fine).
Has anyone done a successful run through them? Their site is pretty self service, and I have a handful of components that I'm having difficulty in matching from the BOM:
1) Can't find same sized buttons for reset, etc. (430152043826). They have the following, e.g., which is a bit too small: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Tactile-Switches_XKB-Enterprise-TS-1187A-C-E-A_C318887.html/?href=jlc-SMT
2) Can't find exact match for the inductor SRP1265A-470M. They have the following in the stock which is similar in size, but it's only 2.5 amp instead of 6.5 amp: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/Power-Inductors_Sunlord-SWRB1207S-470MT_C169376.html/?href=jlc-SMT. Is the 6.5 amps needed?
3) Can't find a clock crystal in the same package as FC4SDCBMF8.0-T1. The have the following in stock which looks close-ish: https://lcsc.com/product-detail/SMD-Crystal-Resonators_Harmony-Elec-X5H008000FC1H-X_C136084.html/?href=jlc-SMT
4) Can't find a match for SK54BTR. Can I drop in an rectifier that matches the max reverse voltage and amps, or is the lower voltage drop of this component super important?
5) Can't find an SD card socket of any kind. Is there another search term I should be trying?
6) They're out of stock on the STM32F427VIT6. Is an STM32F427VGT6 an appropriate substitute? They are the same size package from what I can tell and the data sheet bunches STM32F427xxxx together.
For fun, I cloned the repo w/ the evo files and downloaded the free version of EAGLE, but it seems the free version doesn't allow for editing of boards this size. Is there an open source/free alternative to EAGLE?
I'm pretty inexperienced in this area so...Is the design flow w/ EAGLE that I load the schematic file make my modifications, and then use that to generate the board/layout? Was playing w/ this in case 1-3 requires modification of the board to support the components that jlcpcb has on hand. (When I last did this way back when in college, I used that type of a flow, modifying the final layout as necessary.)

2) You can use TMPC1265HP-470MG-D https://lcsc.com/product-detail/New-Arrivals_TAITEC-TMPC1265HP-470MG-D_C357273.html\

3) HC-49SM8MHz20pF30ppm https://lcsc.com/product-detail/SMD-Crystal-Resonators_Zhejiang-Abel-Elec-HC-49SM8MHz20pF30ppm_C107426.html

#1094 3 months ago
Quoted from TimBoch:

Progress on Tee'd Off continues. I decided to replace the colorization of the original Outlane Duck flyby with a custom Duck Hunt version.
https://imgur.com/a/VbHUApZ

This looks great. I think pin2dmd should really take advantage of the freedoms that come with letting their work be avail for donations with crossover reference stuff like this.

Colordmd wouldnt be able to get away with it.

#1095 3 months ago

Anyone up for completing rocky and bullwinkle?

Original artist/author seems to be awol: X3r2A6

http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/file/5599-adventures-of-rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends/

Unless if all the tools to colorize can be installed in linux mint, ill try to spend some time getting setup and knocking out some frames.... but i dont think its all available in a non windows environment ?

#1096 3 months ago

I have one coming for my DE Star Wars, looking to join the club!

#1097 3 months ago
Quoted from trueno92:

Anyone up for completing rocky and bullwinkle?
Original artist/author seems to be awol: X3r2A6
http://vpuniverse.com/forums/files/file/5599-adventures-of-rocky-and-bullwinkle-and-friends/
Unless if all the tools to colorize can be installed in linux mint, ill try to spend some time getting setup and knocking out some frames.... but i dont think its all available in a non windows environment ?

There is a version for OSX and there is/was a linux version on Steves last compile. I have no environment to compile on linux.

1 week later
#1098 3 months ago

I started a new thread but asking here too.
I just installed a display into my Iron Man. It looks and works great. I would like to play with the colorization but I can’t for the life of me find where the “create dump file” check box is. SD card installed on display and connected to my laptop USB. I can change settings on the fly and see changes so the connection is good. What am I missing??

#1099 3 months ago
Quoted from WpgPins:

I started a new thread but asking here too.
I just installed a display into my Iron Man. It looks and works great. I would like to play with the colorization but I can’t for the life of me find where the “create dump file” check box is. SD card installed on display and connected to my laptop USB. I can change settings on the fly and see changes so the connection is good. What am I missing??

The checkbox in the lower left corner of the pin2dmd tool
https://pin2dmd.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/pin2dmd_tool-197x300.png

#1100 88 days ago

I am trying to get a DIY PIN2DMD to work correctly in a DATAEAST Star Wars. I used a version 2.0 shield from back in 2016. The firmware is 2.86 and the ST STM discovery board had been registered back in 2016.
When the PIN2DMD is powered on it displays the a VGA color palette along with colorprism version 2.68 and then switches over to display DATA EAST. When the pin2dmd starts receiving data from the display driver board from the pinball machine the scenes are shown on the dmd display but they are using the, what I assume, default palette. The colors never change through the game. Always white/blue/brown. Ben Kenobi is blue at the end of the screen,

It seems as if the Discovery board is not reading the pin2dmd.fsq and pin2dmd.pal from the SDCARD. I am sure the Discovery board is reading the SDCARD because if I change the pin2dmd.dat to WILLIAMS instead of DATA EAST the display no longer syncs properly. I cange it back to DATA EAST and copy over the pin2dmd.dat from pc to SDCARD it syncs back up and displays the proper image, not colors.

I can hook up the pin2dmd display to the usb port on my pc and control the display with the pin2dmd editor. I can change the palettes to solid colors on the fly. Then I change the configuration of the pin2dmd display to vga palettes and DATA EAST and save it through the USB.

The SDCARD contains:
pin2dmd.key
pin2dmd.dat
pin2dmd.fsq (martdes colorization version from vpuniverse)
pin2dmd.pal (martdes colorization version from vpuniverse)

I am running game rom version 1.07 and display rom version A1.04 in the machine.

What am I doing wrong? Can anyone help? It is probably something very simple that I am overlooking but at this point I just keep banging my head..

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