Quoted from iceman44:I disagree, that's the mistake that analysts keep making with Apple. With the flip of a switch they could turn into an Apple ONE all services platform that includes the phone. The Apple car, human capital, AI, health care and other initiatives in the pipeline we don't know about makes Apple deserving of a higher multiple. Along with the "brand" alone.
China can't afford to lockdown forever. At least by March, springtime if not sooner.
TSLA is def too "cloudy" right now but they aren't just a "car company" and the margins they generate blow away the competition.
I'm looking for the Santa Claus rally and then getting really "cautious" ahead of Q1. Q1 could be very volatile and ugly.
Same strategy i foresee in 2023, mostly dividend payors along with an option strategy to add to the total return. But i like
A range of 4100 to 4800 at best by year end 2023. Of course all subject to change given geo political issues etc.
Numbers don't lie, Apple is primarily a hardware company (75-80%). Until they "flip the switch" and show the world the revenue it's just talk. Apple car business has been rumored for years, nothing. When analysts talk about the "pipeline we don't know", every tech company has that.
Apple deserves a premium valuation and it has it. Good core holding for sure but nothing special in 2023.
TSLA margins will come under pressure with competition coming fast. It's a car company. Deserves a premium and has it now, and then some.
We always agree on oil though!
Will be interesting to see what happens in 2023.