Sometimes i wonder if they only did do 500 LE of Avengers. They are for sale everywhere (even here in Europe) and if you go to a show or a tournament there is a blue och green avengers at it. LE tron och Avatars i never see here however, no clue why..!

AVLE now and STLE in 6-8 months

I own neither so do not listen to me though.

Think this will be the case for EVERY game going forward - too many LE'S to the point LE is meaningless anyway. Just means a pin costing more with extra features. Maybe games like Predator are true LE's in that 250 is pretty limited.

Ironic that Predator is not an LE!

That's how I felt with my first 5-10 games on Avengers. I was like "F******CK! I can't hit ONE shot!" ...then on one game, all of the sudden the geometry and shots clicked...and I was going Hawkeye-Widow-Widow-Widow-Ironman ...once you get a hang of the shots, they're extremely satisfying and feel good to make, IMO.

Well, there ya go - each Avengers LE only has 250 versions.

So I think what you and other Avengers fans are saying is that Star Trek may be better as a one night stand but Avengers is the one to marry. (I'm neither agreeing nor disagreeing. I'm merely trying to restate.)

I dunno, I'm not saying Avengers is a 10, nor is it perfect...just - misunderstood. I like it, I think it's fun, but I understand its poor first impressions & many of the complaints are valid. I think ST will always be considered the superior game - but I hope people have an opportunity to play a "better" Avengers machine or have a game where the shots click and they have some fun with it.