Serious? Other than saving cash, STLE.

Avengers has a more unique layout but Star Trek is the better game.

STLE all the way brosef

how about NEITHER. how about you pick one you actually played a lot. Play a game least 20+ times before you sink money into it. You can't go wrong that way. Don't listen to others what you should like. make up your own mind by actually playing to pick. Don't buy into hype, because 96% of the time, they are full of shit,and suffer from New tail syndrome. Don't be a lemming.

I have about 200 plays in on STLE no regrets absolutely love the game! When I get home from work I head right out to the game room to play it. My problem right now is that I can't stop thinking about AC/DC Luci I want it! But have a couple other games in the pipeline. What to do what to do??

Lol is this poll a joke? Might as well add Xmen to the choices to enhance the humor...

Well did go for a STLE. I would recommend Avengers to anyone after i did try it... and i love the comics

Pick up a HUO Hulk LE for a hair over 5K, get it dialed in, and don't look back.

I think you are just associating the Luci with the cool stuff you can do with the box

Both are excellent games, price tag alone would push me into the Avengers LE or this mythical premium model that no one has.

edit-Im not sure what gambit is saying but sounds like he played Avengers on route that had nothing done to it.

Good point maybe I should just buy your Luci box from you... shoot if you autographed it and I hogged that hole out a little bigger when I got it the darn thing would be perfect

Play a good avengers and then decide, it's a fantastic game. Ignore the negative commentary about the game until YOU play it.

STLE trumps a well dialed in avengers anyday

Depends what kind of game you want.

Do you want speed/flow like your Tron but with tons-of-mode rules like your Xmen? Get Star Trek LE

Do you want a game that's kind of Jpop inspired with rules like Monster Bash+ and game lengths like your LOTR? Get Avengers LE

Play them both and get the one you like.
AVLE is a great game once it is tweaked and there are some good deals to be made on it.
I would go with AVLE and wait till the STLE's start to show up on the HUO market and score one then.
They are making 799 of them so it isn't like they won't be available down the road when the next latest and greatest is released.

STLE way better game than AVLE.

Can't say this enough...and I own an Avengers LE and have never played a ST lol

X-Men is a great pin. So suck it.

+1. Xmen gets the most plays in my collection. Super hard, keeps me coming back for more. Maybe it is too difficult a game for turbo20lbs, therefore he can't fully appreciate it?

Same here QuarterrGrabber, I play my Wolverine WAY more than any other pin in my collection (ACDC Prem, IM, SM, and Avengers LE)

I see centerflank gave me thumbs down. Trying to make sure nobody catches up to his recordbreaking time wasting.

You wouldn't say that if you just got avengers and had STLE for a year. Did you EVER have a well dialed in Avengers? LOL.

Ive only played the ST pro about 20 times. I like it. But it's not "all that" at this point.

I didn't even like Avengers after 20 games. Took about 100 games. Then I loved it. 13 months later I still do.

Don't ever believe the hype. Play the games and buy the one you prefer. The path of least resistance is just that. Sometimes the road less travelled has all the cool shit.

When you talk about Lucy's box are we regressing towards a sloppy seconds scenario?

I own both, STLE wins. TAVLE is good value for the money at current huo prices, but if money was no object STLE wins.

LOL

You got a bunch of thumbs down for this post, but I personally agree with you, so big thumbs UP!

Yes, actually, he did.

Why bother with ST right now. Just like all sterns, they fall pretty sharply within a year when the hype calms down.

All the opinions here don't mean squat play them both then decide.

Actually he didn't I spent quite a few hours tweaking it after I bought it.
I still haven't played a STLE but it is a SR game and I am sure I will like it when I buy one down the road.

Well, he said he would have it "dialed in" but that it didn't stay that way for long, and he would have to "dial it in" again. And again. And that's why he sold it.

STLE

Both in pro form
Just purchased AV pro after selling Hulk...great game for the money.
ST Pro gets all the code updates and you could have both for close to the same money as a STLE.

Do what I did and order both. STLE and AVLE arrive next week.

Mine would stay dialed in for a week. Spend a day tweaking so I can play it again. I ain't dissing on avengers, I love that game. STLE is just in another league, that's all.

Avengers if you're a reasonable player, becomes a game of endless multiballs and gets boring because of it. The shots are nice, maybe a little too tight and Hulk does look great. It's no contest though STLE is beautiful with decent rules and wonderful flowing shots.

I've had both Hulk left a while back, no intention that ST will leave

No he didn't. That's why he sold it. He's said so numerous times since he did so. But whatever. STLE has to be good. SR + most expensive game ever = has to be good. Otherwise it's an epic fail. To each his own. People like what they like, and I tend to like what's better.

Can you buy ST Pro (NIB) + Avenger Pro (HUO) for the price of STLE?
That would be my suggestion then, if you can't decide...

Avoid Avengers. Too much work to make it passable, and even at that point it's just not very fun. Avengers feels like a grind, even when you do get the shots down. Before you get the shots down, it's just a clunky mess.

You just described my ex wife.

Yeah, just get STLE. It's the safe play.

Is this a straight up battle, cost is no object battle, or do you take into consideration that STLE is 8K and AVLE is 5K?

All things equal very close 1k ....ie retail to retail. We all know you can get these cheaper.
ST pro $4995 AV pro $4599 Ebay
STLE $8395 Ebay

Put that to the real world pricing and its even closer IMO.
If you bundle shipping with a vendor I bet it would be much much closer NIB.
I just purchased my Avengers pro HUO we will call it 33-3400 range.
Now add a ST pro for the going rate and we are almost dead equal.

I'm not convinced Star Trek is a game with staying powers in the long term.

On the other hand I'm convinced that Avengers is terrible. The scoring is screwed, the layout needed another whitewood or two, the whole game feels like chopping wood. There's ball hang-ups all over the place. There's a giant spinny thing in the midde---that no one ever shoots at.

Therefore, it's an easy choice. That said, I'd buy the Pro on ST. I'm not convinced by the extra bling on that game being worth $3k.

This is incorrect, activating the Tesseract multiple times lights extra ball and really jacks your score up quickly, collecting the Tesseract jackpots is usually a very nice amount (5-10million or whatever)

The Tesseract mod, which a good chunk of us have and I know Buckman would put one in his game, is Awesome when spinning with the flasher going off behind it.

Edit-----Actually, completing the lighting of the C-O-S-M-I-C letter inserts multiple times is what lights the extra ball, my bad!

Is this seriously a question

Stle

When I go to The Arcade in Brighton, MI, I have about 50+ games to choose from-- mostly A titles. And I find myself drawn to and subsequently addicted to the Hulk LE every time. And yes, they have an STLE too.

Everything you say is mostly wrong about Avengers. Just say you don't like it, but don't make stuff up.

I love the worldwide response to this. There are 500 AVLEs in existence, but everybody has played one enough to have an opinion. Right.