Problem is the “king of flow” (and speed) would be going to a company with soft flippers. ST and SM are flow beasts. BKSOR is empty but lightning fast.

Meanwhile I’ve played 4 different JJP’s in the past few months and thought they all were soft flipping games. Most recently was a NIB GnR and none of the shots feel that great (ramps especially).

If SR went to JJP, he’d need a full BoM and something better than wet noodles to feed the shots.

Edit - I should also say SR is my favorite designer and selling AC/DC Luci was the hardest decision I’ve had in the hobby.

3 were on location. The NIB GnR I helped unbox is in a home setting. Still feels weak and unsatisfying on the shots. Power I think is pretty damn high.

Also, just don't take the subpar feeling flippers from me. This is from TWIP last week. I estimate over 500 votes and JJP gets like 7% overall.

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Terrible analogy because I am a dunce when it comes to electronics (but a degreed mechanical engineer) but if you and I had the same car with Bose sound systems, but you listened to AM radio and I listened to XM, our listening experience would vary greatly.

Basically, the flippers are the same mechanically, but what drives and sends pulses to the flippers can vary. I think that’s why some rate B/W so much higher.

TBH, it is crazy how many flat plastics you see in BKSoR (and I think SR even made note of it in an interview) and meanwhile Elwin gets 3+ flippers in all his games, 3+ ramps in all his games (often 4 ramps)… etc. The “open space filled” factor is so high in Elwin games vs SR games (LZ, BKSoR and SW vs. JP2, AIQ and IMDN Pros alone). There must be a reason.

It’s the “Lyman factor”.

Stern saw all the “I won’t buy a game unless Lyman is on code” posts… and Stern now has Lyman on $8k games only. That helps bottom line. All of us who praise SR games will buy SR games… so why should Stern put extra $$$ into his games? You’re going to buy them anyways!!! Meanwhile Elwin had to prove himself. They gave him the keys to the car and he’s delivering.

Just you all wait 15-20 years from now when you say “I won’t buy a game unless Elwin is on design, and Tanio is on code”… and what you get is an IJ4 rehash and a $15k price for the Pro because you asked for it over and over again.

"Jersey Jack Pinball (JJP) is the industry leader in quality..."

Lol, sure, and Stern is a "lifestyle brand".