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Black Knight Sword of Rage!!! - Sterns next machine!!!


By Blacksun

6 months ago



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11 key posts have been marked in this topic

Post #1 Key posted, but no summary given Posted by Blacksun (6 months ago)

Post #139 Info about legal entities - licensing Posted by PPS (6 months ago)

Post #425 Link to pictures and interview of SR Posted by ASOA (6 months ago)

Post #449 Pictures of the game Posted by NeilMcRae (6 months ago)

Post #482 High resolution cabinet pictures Posted by BoJo (6 months ago)

Post #505 Rule card Posted by PinB (6 months ago)

Post #517 Gameplay videos Posted by PinB (6 months ago)

Post #521 Link to interviews Posted by PinB (6 months ago)

Post #647 Feature matrix Posted by ovfdfireman (6 months ago)

Post #3606 Explains how the upper PK is mounted Posted by swilson143 (4 months ago)

Post #3758 A message from God Posted by newtoit (3 months ago)


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#375 6 months ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

May want to wait for a non fuzzy picture, details about code, animations, music, shot layout and how it actually plays first...

With all the "instant buy" people I assumed my eyes were going bad.

#796 6 months ago
Quoted from TomGWI:

I was questioning whether the upper playfield is crucial. Your losing the ball locks and similarity to BK2K. Are you losing the MB in the pro?

That's the question I have. I'm not sure in terms of gameplay the upper playfield looks all that exciting, but at the same time it is a Black Knight. It just feels kind of wrong to not have an upper playfield.

PS: I'm out either way. My top two Stern wants remain Spider-Man and Iron Maiden.

#936 6 months ago

Just trying to wrap my head around the layout. On the Premium, my understanding of the shots, from left to right, are as follows...

1. 2 stand-up targets
2. VUK to upper playfield w/ drop target
3. Orbit w/ spinner
4. Ramp to ??? (the upper playfield) w/ automated spinning flail which is like a mini-golf windmill.
5. 1 stand-up target
6. Shield lock shot which acts as a ball lock
7. 1 stand-up target
8. Orbit w/ spinner
9. 3 drop targets

Few Questions:

- Does the ramp also feed the upper playfield? If not, where does it exit?
- Does the Shield Lock feed into the VUK, or just lock behind the shield. It looks like there might be a gate.
- I assume at least one orbit feeds the pops, is this done with gates or posts? Can it be fed by either orbit?
- Do the pops always feed directly into the VUK, or is there another exit?

#940 6 months ago
Quoted from lpeters82:

Just trying to wrap my head around the layout. On the Premium, my understanding of the shots, from left to right, are as follows...

1. 2 stand-up targets
2. VUK to upper playfield w/ drop target
3. Orbit w/ spinner
4. Ramp to ??? (the upper playfield) w/ automated spinning flail which is like a mini-golf windmill.
5. 1 stand-up target
6. Shield lock shot which acts as a ball lock
7. 1 stand-up target
8. Orbit w/ spinner
9. 3 drop targets
Few Questions:
- Does the ramp also feed the upper playfield? If not, where does it exit?
- Does the Shield Lock feed into the VUK, or just lock behind the shield. It looks like there might be a gate.
- I assume at least one orbit feeds the pops, is this done with gates or posts? Can it be fed by either orbit?
- Do the pops always feed directly into the VUK, or is there another exit?

#1067 6 months ago
Quoted from lpeters82:

Few Questions:
- Does the ramp also feed the upper playfield? If not, where does it exit?
- Does the Shield Lock feed into the VUK, or just lock behind the shield. It looks like there might be a gate.
- I assume at least one orbit feeds the pops, is this done with gates or posts? Can it be fed by either orbit?
- Do the pops always feed directly into the VUK, or is there another exit?

Can anyone answer these questions?

#1082 6 months ago
Quoted from pascal-pinball:

Ramp goes to the upper playfield. Also the far left lane with vuk. This means that you can only go to the upper playfield with a right flipper shot : this is not good.
I think that de locked balls go behind the lock target and voa the vuk on the right hanitrail.

Thanks, I see that now on the feature matrix: "Half Pipe shot to the upper playfield at the end of the Flail Lane". It does seem a bit odd that the those two left side shots both feed the upper playfield. I guess there is at least an orbit shot between them, and either shot could be closed off by the drop target or flail. I also assume the flail could also spin in a way that it fires the ball back to the upper playfield. That of course assumes there isn't a gate at the top of that ramp? It might be fun to see the ball start coming down the ramp, but then be launched back up by the spinning flail or if it were spinning in the opposite direction perhaps it is almost similar to a kicker launching the ball rapidly towards the lower flippers. It still looks to me like there must be some interaction between the VUK on the right side and the shield shot, but perhaps I'm just seeing things. Here is my theory. I think the VUK serves as the ball lock. If a ball is in there the shield will lower, preventing another ball from entering that direction. The only other way for the ball to get in there, would be for the ball to pass though the pops, so when a ball runs over one of the WAR lanes it can spit out the current locked ball and relocks the new ball.

#1116 6 months ago
Quoted from Sinestro:

That's why you always replace Stern's balls upon purchase.

How many manufacturers are making pinballs? I guess I assumed that most pinballs came from the same factory and some of the premium balls were just run through a tumbler and polished.

#1128 6 months ago
Quoted from Bublehead:

All pinballs are not the same. Some are carbon steel, some are chrome steel. Both about the same in price in large quantities.

Do you have a good source for the carbon steel balls? I was under the impression most of the manufacturers were using this carbon steel ball. Pinball Life, Titan, Ball Barron, and Mezel Mods have all sold out. Marco still has some, but I thought I overheard they just buy there's from Pinball Life. They are now $3 each, which I assume is because they are the final batch. I'm getting ready to invest in a tumbler, because I'm not sure there is anyone making carbon steel pinballs at this point.

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