Quoted from CrazyLevi:
I doubt it. Can't think of a SR game with a bash toy. More like a cool 3D figure on top of a plastic/standup
Sword and shield interact with the ball.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
Sounds like the LE will be right at or around $9k from what I'm hearing. I'm interested to see and hear what Stern comes up with regarding custom music, animations and callouts as just like with Dialed In everything needs to be custom made with an original theme (this is close enough to one even though it's licensed through WMS). As a Dialed In owner I'm excited for Black Knight Sword of Fury as I think an original theme game can offer a lot of value to the home buyer since everything needs to be made from scratch.
There are a few games where they created the LCD content from scratch. Aerosmith was the first effort, which was decent, but titles after that have gotten even better, like Deadpool. Iron Maiden is a hodgepodge of existing assets and fresh stuff, and is ok, but a little disjointed on the LCD animations IMO. I expect BK3 to look outstanding. As far as sound, I think Jerry Thompson has been creating amazing with sound packages for a few years now. He doesn't get enough credit.
This game was clearly made for us, the pinball nerds. I showed my friend, and he isn't excited. He has pinball machines but isn't a pinball person if that makes sense. Maybe Stern is concerned because the theme isn't recognizable for "barcade hipsters" and "building a game room" home buyers?
I think it will do well, but I am also in the pinball vortex.
Quoted from HighVoltage:
That's not the reason. Revealing a new machine at the show has no effect on vendor sales at the show: all the Sterns brought by Marco are all pre-sold well before the show starts.
This is pretty short sighted. There were 17 Munsters Premium games at TPF. Of course the show games are pre-sold, but the reason why there are show games is so that OTHER people can play them and hopefully buy them. Stern subsidizes the show discount. This show was the Munsters coming out party for pinball with the cars, actors there, etc. Revealing Black Knight at the show wouldn't have been the right move and WOULD have absolutely soften interest in Munsters and take the spotlight away. MGC is the BK3 show.
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:
black knight has to have the upper playfield, maybe this is where stern should of went back to the old days, 1 model only, a complete game...….take it or leave it.
So no $5600 option, only $7300? As long as Stern can widen their addressable market, why wouldn't they? And no you can't have your cake and eat it too with a $5600 Premium, as much as everyone, including myself, wants one...
Quoted from OnTheSnap:
Yah it sucks for us "non-hype" motivated types. I'm mean holy s#$t!
We haven't seen a game play stream
We haven't played the game.
The 600 LE machines are sold out in a couple of days.
This whole "missing out" thing is a monster. I need to play the game. Fall in love with the game. Then hand over $9000 to have the game in my collection.
Guess the only LE I will ever own is a used HUO. Otherwise I will forever be a premium buyer.
The LE models are not sold out.
Quoted from Jediturtle:
Not necessarily. While I really hope you are correct and catapult multiball IS actually in the pro somehow, I have a bad feeling it won't be. It will more likely be like Game of Thrones and Tron where there is an extra multiball on the LE/premiums that is missing all together from the pro.
Listen to Tim Sexton on the Coast 2 Coast Pinball podcast. He specifically says that multi ball isn’t on the pro.
Quoted from drfrightner:
OMG... you know there are like a million different kinds of charts but the only one that matters is sales. The highest sales charting song of Kiss all time is Beth, which reached #6, it was also the ONLY top 10 hit they ever had. Furthermore they have no #1 hits, and oddly enough their biggest selling album was the album that featured Beth, and they kicked him out of the band.
Most of their albums sold between 500,000 units to 1 million units. They have no #1 hit, however they do have an anthem song unlike Iron Maiden (Rock N Roll All Night) which is their most well known song, only hit like 45 in the charts.
Iron Maiden never had a #1 or even a top 10 hit, and maybe one of those songs reached like 37 or something.
Neither band is known for their music as much as their stage shows. There are without a doubt the two single most successful bands who never really had any authentic hit songs.
Nothing changes the fact that both of these bands COMBINED have less views on their music than ONE Metallica song. How is it if they're so popular does Metallica or ACDC have more views on ONE song than two bands between them made over 50 albums have combined? OVER 50 ALBUMS between them and between all those songs combined they cant match one song from Nirvana. Again they're really popular like the Grateful Dead with their fans but they don't have fans outside that window.
Kiss is bigger in the US and Iron Maiden is bigger in Europe.
There is one Skynyrd song "simple man' that someone uploaded that has almost as many views as all the Kiss songs combined. Why because Skynyrd is one of the most talented musical groups ever assembled.
Kiss and Iron Maiden have pinball games because that's what they do that is how they make money, licensing their brand to almost anything. While real bands like LZ, Doors, Nirvana or Lynyrd Skynyrd, Queen, sell music.
There is a difference but you know none of this has anything to do with Sterns new game. Start a music theme and we'll debate all day long would be fun!
Please. Just stop.
Quoted from luvthatapex2:
It's there but not disclosed. Guess the minimum is $5100 for a BKSOR PRO in USA then. As usual you have to shop around to figure out the minimum.
No. Maybe for a show special or IFPA discount, but you won’t see a New In Box BKSOR for $5100 anywhere. Pretty much $5600 is the floor where they are at new from distributors.
The extra flipper rubber on the upper playfield is just ridiculous. It isn’t very hard to keep the ball alive up there by some nudging with the factory rubber setup. It isn’t supposed to be up there forever anyway.
Quoted from tpir:
Finally got a chance to put in around 50 games on a Pro this weekend and I like it a lot more. Have already put in 100+ games on an LE and the upper playfield is starting to annoy me It ruins the flow of the modes and is kind of clunky in general.
Very torn now on which one to buy because it feels sacreligious to own a BK without an upper playfield.
How does the pro have more flow? Left orbit goes to a VUK on both games that stops the ball. No flow there. If you don’t want it on the upper playfield just let the ball return to the lower flipper by not flipping on the upper. Same thing with the ramp. But why would you not flip with the loop scoring (flow) and the extra multiball up there? It isn’t up there long anyways.
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