You mean the right flipper? No feeds to the left one....

Long shot - but anyone else ever play Ultima Underworld on DOS/PC? First ever game in 3D, and you had to eat/drink to survive. This theme is right up my alley.

Got in on an LE

Yep I'm old enough for that game

Haha I shows my wife the vid. She said “here’s what’s going to happen...you’ll want to order it then watch the gameplay then tell me you’re worried about the code blah blah blah.”

Me: “Correct.”

Looks ridiculously awesome! Would be even cooler if on draining last ball Ritchie voices “fatality”.......homage to mortal kombat. Mk4 style, maybe a little deeper.

Yep. It sure does look purrty, and the theme is exactly up my alley, but I'll wait to play it first before committing.

The license is not Held by Williams anymore but Planetary Pinball isn't it?

Whomever it is, they said they'd be so happy if Steve Makes a third Black Knight game, they'd let him use it free of charge.

DOESN'T MEAN THEY ACTUALLY DID IT, but Steve Ritchie said so himself in a Seminar couple of years ago.

https://www.gog.com/game/ultima_underworld_1_2

Both for $1.49! Steal of the century

Spot on here

This game is so beautiful I want to cry...

Has anyone mentioned the right flipper thing from bk2k yet?

Yeah the Premium is way the best art package

Congrats to Stern, Steve, Kevin and the rest of the BKSOR team. Game looks stellar!

? That most shots are from the right flippers?

Round and round we go ..........

Agree (before I said pro because I thought the premium was the pro, the way it was presented to me thought the first one was pro).

If the premium art was on the LE I would get that no questions.

I like the LEs features but can add most of that like side art and shaker, but basically prefer the art on the premium.

Like it looks great but its only one that has Swords!

Can someone tell me what's going on? I mean is the mace spinner a ramp? how does the balls get to the upper PF? Is there any inner loops like (for example Quarra or Gem shots from Tron? I like mini loops.

The original BK did not rely on the right flipper heavily IMO. The top playfield left flipper to lock and jackpot is an epic shot.

Left loop to VUK

This is fatuous. Sure the game looks like it’s going to be decent, but any BK without an upper playfield is:

1) counter intuitive
2) blasphemous
3) heretical
4) just plain absurd
5) total bullshit

YMMV...I guess.

Most people are poor and/or lazy and stupid. So you’re right. Congrats.

Levi, lol dont get me started but if Stern was that concerned they would have innovated first! Namely LCD/LEDs... Why did it take a brand new company to do it first?

"If people don't like what Stern or McDonald's are doing they would be out of business." <--- unless they are the only ones in it which means that people dont have a choice....

Because JJP, like Tiger Woods did for golf, changed pinball for good and for the better

Where were we 8 yrs ago? Oh yeah, I was buying LOTRLE closeout for $5k

I was referring to bk2k..

Yeah and Stern being in the business for 30 years could not have done it? JJP cabinets and playfields are better as well... Its shameful/

I bought a T2 for 1500, STTNG for 2800, fireball for 1700, white water for 3000, I don't even want to look at the rest....

I played a game of BK2K last night without using the left flipper just as a reminder not to believe anything that I hear repeated 1000 times on Pinside. I got less than 10% of my normal scores.

Srsly, you have "no choice" but to eat junkfood?

That argument is lacking really hard on so many levels...

I don't know the legalese and don't really care to but the trailer lists Williams Electronic Games and PPS so my guess is both are involved in it. Probably WEG through PPS, but again it doesn't really matter since it's clear they got it done. I wonder if they licensed it because of the music they wanted to use from BK2K, even if re-done it would still be owned by WEG/PPS I would guess. Like I said though, they got it done and that's all that really matters.

So High Roller Casino and Striker Extreme were licensed? Let’s not hyperbolize here. And the third installment of a game isn’t exactly an original theme. Just sayin’.

Better have an ostrich feather !

This looks freakin awesome ! First Stern “worth” the premium!!

Just trying to wrap my head around the layout. On the Premium, my understanding of the shots, from left to right, are as follows...

1. 2 stand-up targets
2. VUK to upper playfield w/ drop target
3. Orbit w/ spinner
4. Ramp to ??? (the upper playfield) w/ automated spinning flail which is like a mini-golf windmill.
5. 1 stand-up target
6. Shield lock shot which acts as a ball lock
7. 1 stand-up target
8. Orbit w/ spinner
9. 3 drop targets

Few Questions:

- Does the ramp also feed the upper playfield? If not, where does it exit?
- Does the Shield Lock feed into the VUK, or just lock behind the shield. It looks like there might be a gate.
- I assume at least one orbit feeds the pops, is this done with gates or posts? Can it be fed by either orbit?
- Do the pops always feed directly into the VUK, or is there another exit?

That is totally WRONG! I don't think you understand how this game is being sold and has been sold. High end retail stores sell this as fast as they can put it on the floor. Super Rich people buy this for their basement. WOZ is more like a collector game like artwork, its the single most nostalgic movie in history. I'd bet the massive percentage of people who buy it don't collect pinball its like artwork for the themed basement.

That game is probably already sold out.

Does WOZ Yellow Brick Road look like a game as fun as Black Knight? NO WAY Black Knight looks amazing but WOZ is a totally different market.

It's been a long, long, long time since I have been truly excited about a NIB pinball title from any manufacturer - but BKSoR has definitely hooked me. I love BK2K so I guess theme matters.

It's just so hard to pull the trigger on this given recent code challenges but I sooooooo want to … don't let us down on this one Stern!

And in the Basement it belongs

They have licensed it (maybe for free, like it was said), including the music.

BK2000 music was composed by Steve Ritchie himself, so there propably wasn't any issues here.

Maybe, maybe not. If his contract didn't allow him to own the copyright of his work while employed by WMS, including music he doesn't own it. I've seen multiple bands live (Cake comes to mind first, what a let down that was - not a single song I'd ever heard and about 10 minutes of bitching about record companies) that won't / can't play their hits because they don't own the rights to them and it would cost them too much to use it. Music licensing is a very weird business, probably worse that pinball and video games.

P.S. I said I didn't care about the legalese (and I don't) but still weighed back into this - D'OH!

It's a weak analogy i agree BUT, pinball isn't where we are at today without JJP.

Stern had to raise its game and get its shit together as a result.

Put the pipe down DR. LOL

No such thing as a "collector" Woz game or anything JJP for that matter. Are you new to pinball?

Dialed in was a little kiddie theme with freaking bob the builder come on guys this game just slayed to for beat non licensed game in a long time just saying

I thought about this and I think, while not be the thing we want them to do, it is the respectful thing to do for all vendors that bring lots of existing machines for play and sale. Like the shitload of Munsters Premiums Marco brought.

Since Stern relies heavily on them promoting their machines for them it's not the best thing to lock away mones/ sales by presenting a new machine right at the beginning of a show.

So while Stern still is revealing games at tech- or amusement shows (where there is no pinball retailer), they'd propably never ever again reveal a major game at a pinball show.

It's ok. We're just hanging in this thread trembling in excitement.

I don't like JJP chat mixed in with my BKSOR chat.
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Looking at the playfield, would it appear that the Orange parts of the lightening wheel signifies modes and the yellow part important shot features when lit.

Wow, looks great! The spinning flail/spinner and shield target is genius. I also love how the playfield art is reminiscent of the line art of BK2000, but adds more detail and color. Can’t wait to play it and HEAR it!