Marco also sells Stern/Data East leg bolt plates. Would these be better suited for GB than the B/W version?
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The credit card extends the warranty, but I'm not sure if the bare bones Stern warranty even texhnically covers cabinet damage like this (though like the crappy playfields, Stern will have to address this somehow). I'll definitely explore the options.
If that's all it takes, and it doesn't get any worse down the road, I guess that's ok but the quality is disappointing. I still think everyone with this issue should call Stern so they are aware of the extent of the problem and that buyers are not happy--even if it can be corrected. Who knows, maybe they will send out some sort of kit that would fix it better than my DIY attempt.
I love this game, and will give Stern a chance to make things right with existing problems and improve quality going forward, but I will definitely give a closer look at the other companies for my second pin--especially with all the good choices coming out soon.
Quoted from wtatumjr:These cracks are not due owner error. I have teflon gliders on berber carpet - you can move the pins very easily. I've only been to play these 2 new Stern's about 16 days since new as they are at my beach house - most of that 16 days I've been getting ready for the rental season and only playing once in a while. Less than 100 plays on each GB and AS and both have 1 cracked corner on each. I've E:mailed Stern with no reply. My situation is what it is and I'll fix this myself. I only want Stern to acknowledge the problem and fix it for future buyers.
Quoted from wtatumjr:Thanks so much! My blood work looks good - going for bone marrow check this coming Wednesday.
Best of luck to you! I have a feeling you have many more pins in your future.
Quoted from wtatumjr:We really didn't hear of this issue with BM66 or even early GB. My GB and AS with problems were built only a few weeks
apart - Feb/March. Stern changed something at this time or the cabinet maker made changes.
AS # 266863 GB # 264865
My GB was manufactured in Dec. 2016 and has started to split on the left side--though not as bad (yet) as others. The decals do not wrap around the cab corners.
Quoted from Who-Dey:If you don't know what is driving pricing then you are a Moron. What's driving pricing is the amount that people are willing to pay. Every company out there sells their products for what people are willing to pay for them. It's pretty simple, if you think pinball machines are too high then don't buy NIB machines, buy used instead and quit F'ing crying about it.
As far as Sterns quality goes, I have bought four machines in the past year and a half and haven't had any issues of any kind yet and I play the hell out of my games. The cabinets definitely aren't as solid and rugged as older games, I will give you that but they certainly aren't falling apart either by any means. For the people that are having problems, yeah that sucks and I feel bad for them....especially the ones like me that take care of their games. What you don't know is though, is how many of these games actually have factory defects, how many of them were bounced around in shipping, and how they have been treated by the owners. I believe that most of these are not the owners fault for sure, but there are some people who treat their games rough as shit and don't think there isn't. Some people could f*ck up a steel ball.
Sure, pricing is set based on what the market will bear, but part of that could be based on perceived expenses--such as licensing costs. If companies imply costs are rising because of increased licensing fees, and that is not actually the case, people may be deciding what they are willing to pay based on false information. I have no idea if this type of market manipulation is going on, but it is certainly a valid area of discussion--particularly when an authority like Roger Sharpe seems to debunk assumptions about licensing costs.
As to your NIB experience, that's great, but I think the point is that it's a crap shoot. I'm enjoying the hell out of my GB Prem. It was largely ok out of the box, but it took me a few weeks to tweak things and now the cabinet is beginning to split. This is disappointing and is unfortunately consistent with the experience if many others on here and my dealer. I treat the game gently, and I'm guessing that folks with the interest to post on Pinside generally do as well. Hell, aren't these things supposed to be commercial vending equipment able to withstand a beating? While I agree Stern has been releasing some great playing games, I don't understand why you are you so resistant to others calling them out on quality issues just because you have been lucky so far.
2 weeks later
I fixed (hopefully) the hairline crack on the top front left corner of my GB with wood glue, the B/W brackets, and touch up paint. I did just notice, though, a hairline crack towards the bottom of that corner when I took the leg off. There also seems to be a bit of minor separation on the wood on the underside of the cab leading up to the corner on the left side. I added some glue in those areas (including where there is missing wood), but gravity is bitch when dealing with the cab bottom.
Any idea if the glue and leg brace would arrest separation on the bottom corners as well as the top?
2 weeks later
Quoted from Sanfordpk:I added the B/W braces to my Aerosmith LE. I have a shaker motor installed and over 500 plays, no sign of any splitting.
I also installed the B/W braces to my GB after the left front cab started to split a few weeks ago. I also added extra glue to the open areas. It seems fine now, but I may have used sheet metal screws on the braces (see earlier post), so I guess I'm still f---ed. 
11 months later
Quoted from Trekkie1978:Here's what I don't understand, my Star Wars LE cabinet is reinforced from Stern. Why go through the process of designing that, only to use it on 1 game?
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