Cabinet corner seam pics are the new insert ghosting check pics!

I haven't seen any Stern cabs falling apart but there's absolutely no doubt they are much lighter and flimsier than ever before. I can't believe how light my WWE feels and I've had to tighten up the tilt to keep my idiot friends from throwing it around.

I don't know, are you?

Every hour on the hour.

More populist claptrap from the lower classes. Commoners who don't enlighten their Pan Bagnat with Grey Poupon can't be expected to understand the complexities of this issue.

Let them reinforce cabinets!

These games are all perfect in every way and nobody ever has any complaints about them.

I have a WWE. The location I service games at has an Aero, Kiss, Metallica, and GB (all late model). All the cabs look fine (with the legs on). But hey it's NYC, maybe they are sticking you guys in the sticks with all the bum cabs.

Sorry it doesn't work that way. Every hate thread gets love interlopers and every love thread gets hate interlopers. I mean, where were you when unwanted gottlieb love kept seeping into my beloved street fighter 2 hate thread?!

It's the circle of life.

This is such a horrible cargument.

The "little guys" were gigantic Japanese corporations with huge factories and distribution networks. Not dudes building cars out of their garages or churning out 1 car a week in small understaffed "factories"

There is not currently a single other pinball manufacturer in any kind of position to seize the market from Stern.

You know what else is getting boring?

The never ending deluge of carguments trying to frame pinball QC in terms of the auto industry. We get it. Cars.

People answering "which game should I buy?" Threads with "stern quality issues!"

People answering "stern game prediction" threads with "there will be ghosting!" "Humor."

People blowing stern QC issues way out of proportions while conviently ignoring those of other manufacturers, while pretending Williams games were all trouble free right out of the box.

People continuing to bitch about stern prices while ignoring the fact that they are still significantly cheaper than the competition.

People pretending there is an actual competitor to Stern, who stil has a stranglehold on the vast majority of the market.

So yes, there is lots of boring, repetitive stuff around here these days

Yeah, cause Samsung makes 4 phones a week out of their garage.

Phonegument is clearly apples and oranges.

Or wait, do I have this wrong and you are saying apple was the tiny, precocious upstart? Either way this makes no sense at all. Please reframe using cars.

You owe me a buck!

They are really using those EM-style cabinet bolt plates?!

I didn't think anybody had used those in new pins since the 1980s.

You are right, I haven't! Surprised, those W/B braces are so great, I've used them to repair EM cabinets. But Stern has been in the cost cutting biz since the DE days so I guess I shouldn't be shocked.

most Old USA-made cabinets only fall apart if they get wet or are dropped repeatedly and harshly. Sometimes on 40-50 year old cabs you need to replace the cabinet bolt plates but those cost like 5 bucks (after all those years they get stripped sometimes).

"Competition is good for pinball" is something that gets repeated endlessly without anybody actually thinking about it.

Would you have paid his asking price if the game didn't have cabinet issues?

They just got bigger. I can't believe how obnoxiously huge the heads on the first bunch of System 11 games are. I also can't believe how gigantic and heavy those System 3 gottlieb games are.

Why....WHY?! You can't even fit a System 3 in some SUVs, they are too tall.

I helped someone unbox a brand new metallica pro last night. Game is flawless in every way and required zero adjustments out of the box. Plays perfectly.

That's an old picture and irrelevant.

There have been no new relevant posts here in months, which leads me to believe it hasn't been an issue for months.

Here's a shot I found:

Naturally, we should all avoid large ships.

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It's a shot I found!

Thanks for clearing that up. So that photo is from the exact period this thread began, and people were posting all the horror pics. So again...really no sign of continuing problems on that front, and nothing new. Perhaps this thread can now die again until someone else checks in a few months from now to ask about what's going on with Stern's cabinets.