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Sterns new cabinets...

By daddyxxx

6 years ago


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    #264 6 years ago

    I don't have skin in this game, but I find the thread sadly amusing, as joinery techniques are 100s or 1000s of years old. Someone took a shortcut or made a bonehead design move on the cabinets. Someone else said it best - these joints are cut on a shaper. Whether the shaper bit cuts this or a locking miter, like on the old Bally cabinets - same amount of time for the worker, once the tooling is set up. It looks as though the way the joint is cut, there's not enough wood left in that one spot, so that the wood and therefore joint is weak. Without enough wood or supplemental support, like blocking, to keep it rigid, the wood breaks.

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    #754 6 years ago

    LOL at Simpson Strongtie hardware being used to fix a cabinet.

    Sort of different, but look at how Williams Robotron, Stargate, Joust, etc cabinets were built. Probably by one of the companies that built pin cabinet back in the day. The side panels had a dado/slot cut in them, for more glue surface area and a stronger joint, and you can't change the type of joinery that's already there on these lousy built cabinets, but they also used triangle shaped blocking, glued into the corners that worked as sort of wood gussets. I'd think this sort of gusset/blocking could be added to these cabinets to beef up the corners, but you'd need to grind down the paint so the glue will bite better. Titebond glue and narrow crown staples.

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    #1057 6 years ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    Im not resorting to personal insults, you just talk a lot of BS without any facts. You don't know that there is a big issue with these cabinets no more than I don't think that there is. I'm smart enough to look at it with an open mind that maybe there is and maybe there isn't a problem, but you come on here and run your big mouth like every new Stern cabinet has issues and that's not true. Sorry but 25 people who say that they have splitting cabinets doesn't necessarily mean that we have a catastrophe on our hands. Maybe we do and maybe we don't. I just think your hardcore never ending rants about it are stupid. Say your peace and move on. You act like your on a mission to put Stern out of business or something.

    You're coming off extremely defensive, as if you don't like someone bashing issues that could effect something you've spent $10K+ on. I've never owned a Stern, but have followed the hobby since the late 90s and have built a full set of kitchen cabinets (and know a little about joinery techniques). Should I not be able to voice an opinion on the matter?

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    #1058 6 years ago
    Quoted from Who-Dey:

    Im not resorting to personal insults, you just talk a lot of BS without any facts. You don't know that there is a big issue with these cabinets no more than I don't think that there is. I'm smart enough to look at it with an open mind that maybe there is and maybe there isn't a problem, but you come on here and run your big mouth like every new Stern cabinet has issues and that's not true. Sorry but 25 people who say that they have splitting cabinets doesn't necessarily mean that we have a catastrophe on our hands. Maybe we do and maybe we don't. I just think your hardcore never ending rants about it are stupid. Say your peace and move on. You act like your on a mission to put Stern out of business or something.

    The big issue with the cabinets is the joinery being used on the box, and the apparent tendency for some of the wood to get blown out, leaving a void. That's a manufacturing technique.

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