Sterns new cabinets...

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Sterns new cabinets...


By daddyxxx

1 year ago



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    #1 1 year ago

    I bought a new gb and barely move it and it split on the seam...I moved a lot of pins in my lifetime and never had any kind of issues...my buddy said that stern is building the cabinets cheaper....jus curious if that true or i got a lemon.....

    #2 1 year ago

    wow, that's not good.

    #3 1 year ago
    Quoted from daddyxxx:

    I bought a new gb and barely move it and it split on the seam...I moved a lot of pins in my lifetime and never had any kind of issues...my buddy said that stern is building the cabinets cheaper....jus curious if that true or i got a lemon.....

    First I have heard of this, but is terrifying. Please post pictures.

    #4 1 year ago

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    #5 1 year ago

    Contact your distributor.

    #6 1 year ago

    Kinda looks like it was dropped on the corner.

    #7 1 year ago

    Never drop brotha...barley move...I have no issues of getting it fix....my question is....have the cabinet builds change?...I love stern but jus a little nervous to buy a another nib if the cabs are this weak...

    #8 1 year ago

    probably happened in shipping or at the manufacturer

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from daddyxxx:

    I love stern but just a little nervous to buy a another nib if the cabs are this weak...

    With all the cost cutting measures Stern has done recently I guess anything's possible. Sorry to see this and hope it gets handled ASAP.

    #10 1 year ago

    good luck in getting a clear answer on that one!

    #11 1 year ago
    Quoted from whthrs166:

    probably happened in shipping or at the manufacturer

    My guess would be shipping also.

    #12 1 year ago

    Probably a defective unit. My GB is solid.

    #13 1 year ago

    I recently got a new Stern and had the same problem, which was disappointing but I looked up some threads on here and it seems like an easy fix.

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from Rasavage:

    I recently got a new Stern and had the same problem, which was disappointing but I looked up some threads on here and it seems like an easy fix.

    Yeah not a hard fix....only negative is when the seam splits it rips the decals...so since the decal rips you have to replace front and side decal..because the front decal wraps over the side...

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from daddyxxx:

    I bought a new gb and barely move it and it split on the seam...I moved a lot of pins in my lifetime and never had any kind of issues...my buddy said that stern is building the cabinets cheaper....jus curious if that true or i got a lemon.....

    Looks like a transport or storage issue. You should not have to fix it. I would be disappointed if that happened to us. There is nothing wrong with the cabinets. The metal back boxes make them a little lighter which I think is better.

    You will love GB. Awesome game.

    #16 1 year ago
    Quoted from daddyxxx:

    my question is....have the cabinet builds change?.

    Well they removed about 40 pounds from games. Putting that in perspective, that is like removing the weight of a 4x8 sheet of half inch plywood. Granted, that's through the whole game. But yes, some stuff is thinner and less durable.

    #17 1 year ago

    What a bummer. I would be demanding a replacement. Good luck.

    #18 1 year ago

    Yes, I would hate to get a splinter in my finger from mine.

    #19 1 year ago

    Your probably going to get blamed for dropping it. Glue and clamps will be the way to go.

    #20 1 year ago

    Stern is building everything cheaper, why should cabinets be any different.

    #21 1 year ago

    Well I've talk to two different people that had this problem....game of throne,and a kiss...so I guess it does happen...I guess that's jus one more thing you have to look at when getting a nib or newer pin in general....

    #22 1 year ago

    I've seen this on at least 3 GBs. The cabinets are built like crap and the joinery at the corner is now just a lap joint and not an interlocking joint like you see on B/W games.

    #23 1 year ago
    Quoted from daddyxxx:

    Well I've talk to two different people that had this problem....game of throne,and a kiss...so I guess it does happen...I guess that's jus one more thing you have to look at when getting a nib or newer pin in general....

    Is it possible that over tightening the leg bolts can compromise the corner seams?

    Rob

    #24 1 year ago

    Is Stern making these cabinets? Or CCC?

    #25 1 year ago

    You didn't do that by just moving it, that joint is broken. The joint didn't seperate the wood broke. To break the wood in a joint like that would take a lot of force. Call your distributer pronto. If I were you I'd buy a couple of those HD leg braces, put one on for the leg bolts and another higher just for support once it's fixed.

    #26 1 year ago

    Hmm, you have me intrigued now.

    Is it something like this!? Does your decal look like this?
    Thanks,
    Chris

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    #27 1 year ago
    Quoted from spida1a:

    Hmm, you have me intrigued now.
    Is it something like this!? Does your decal look like this?
    Thanks,yep same thing.....
    Chris

    #28 1 year ago

    Happened too me too

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    #29 1 year ago

    Why always the left front?
    No way everyone of these owners (or the shippers) keeps dropping them and screwing up the left front corner.

    #30 1 year ago
    Quoted from DaveH:

    Well they removed about 40 pounds from games. Putting that in perspective, that is like removing the weight of a 4x8 sheet of half inch plywood. Granted, that's through the whole game. But yes, some stuff is thinner and less durable.

    They've been about 250 lbs for as long as I can remember.

    #31 1 year ago

    Looks like that lap is too deep and leaves the remaining wood it 'keys' into without enough to hold onto. Yikes.

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    #32 1 year ago

    I'm getting ready to buy a GB Premium but seeing things like this makes me hesitant to do so...Stern is charging more then ever, quality should be going up not down at these crazy prices.

    #33 1 year ago

    Same new supplier as the playfields

    #34 1 year ago

    I've seen pictures of games on route with this split as well.

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    #35 1 year ago
    Quoted from shimoda:

    Looks like that lap is too deep and leaves the remaining wood it 'keys' into without enough to hold onto

    Yes looks to me like the weak point is on the joint of the corner cabinet because of how thin the adjoining joint is. It may have a correlation with the quality and density of the plywood as well. The strongest joint is a full dove tail but I doubt they would consider going that route. I did have an idea, if Stern wanted to invest an extra couple of bucks in there production of machines they should consider adding metal L shaped brackets to support the inside structure corners and lessen the likelihood of having cabinets splitting apart when you fart close to them. Four metal support brackets would be cheap as hell and would probably pay for itself with not having all the callbacks for defects. While they are at it add a metal shooter lane protector. These machines can be made bulletproof with little investment and little effort. If Stern would realize that adding protection will reduce cost in the long run. -Lead a horse to water, but how do you get them to drink.

    Typical plywood joint in cabinet.jpg

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    #36 1 year ago

    This is from a batman 66 that is on route. This pic was taken by a friend, not my pic.

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    #37 1 year ago

    This is disappointing to see yet another factory defect from Stern. Add it to the growing list.... Bad playfields, bad node boards, bare bones incomplete code and now the cherry on the cake-flippin bad cabinet construction. Sounds like Stern needs to look for a quality control specialist and a good production line manager. Oh Vey!

    #38 1 year ago
    Quoted from Pinball-is-great:

    Why always the left front?
    No way everyone of these owners (or the shippers) keeps dropping them and screwing up the left front corner.

    Mine is on the left front too. It's not too bad, just disappointing.

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    #39 1 year ago

    If you dont remove the leg, no Problem

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    #40 1 year ago

    If you leave it in the box no problem either

    #41 1 year ago
    Quoted from pinmister:

    This is disappointing to see yet another factory defect from Stern. Add it to the growing list.... Bad playfields, bad node boards, bare bones incomplete code and now the cherry on the cake-flippin bad cabinet construction. Sounds like Stern needs to look for a quality control specialist and a good production line manager. Oh Vey!

    copy that , makes me want to give AFMr and closer look for next NIB purchase

    #42 1 year ago

    Wow, they should at least pin nail them

    #43 1 year ago

    Making my decision to pass on Aerosmith a lot easier to digest!

    And now that Spooky are making Total Annihilation I will be sticking with them

    #44 1 year ago
    Quoted from TaylorVA:

    I've seen this on at least 3 GBs. The cabinets are built like crap and the joinery at the corner is now just a lap joint and not an interlocking joint like you see on B/W games.

    I admit I'm not a carpenter but just looking at the way the corner is designed, it doesn't seem to be a good setup for a cabinet like this. I don't see how it could -not- fail at some point. I think carpentry has been around for awhile and the problem of how to build a solid cabinet has been solved if you do it right.

    #45 1 year ago

    I'm close to ordering a Aerosmith LE. This is disappointing. Not sure now, thanks for posting.

    #46 1 year ago

    I just got a Hobbit and it had the same issue. Its bad enough that the glass doesnt slide in and out. It doesnt sound hard to fix.

    #47 1 year ago
    Quoted from Sinestro:

    They've been about 250 lbs for as long as I can remember.

    My GB pro weight = 210 pounds (230 in box).

    To compare: STTNG = 322 pounds crated. Mine probably weighs that much uncrated with all of the mods!

    Huge difference.

    #48 1 year ago

    Cabinet corner seam pics are the new insert ghosting check pics!

    I haven't seen any Stern cabs falling apart but there's absolutely no doubt they are much lighter and flimsier than ever before. I can't believe how light my WWE feels and I've had to tighten up the tilt to keep my idiot friends from throwing it around.

    #49 1 year ago

    are they even glued? they should squirt some gorilla wood glue before assembling and there would never be an issue.
    I've worked on hundreds of Williams/bally games and maybe 5% have corner separation problems after all these years.
    it's not exactly rocket science to put together a wooden cabinet that is already CNC'd. Yet Stern finds a way to screw it up.
    Agree they need to get a quality control supervisor ASAP - especially for the prices they charge.

    #50 1 year ago
    Quoted from Jenk540i:

    My GB pro weight = 210 pounds (230 in box).
    To compare: STTNG = 322 pounds crated. Mine probably weighs that much uncrated with all of the mods!
    Huge difference.

    To be fair, STTNG is a beast. I suspect it weighs in a good more than its contemporaries.

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