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Stern, 2019
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Quoted from j_m_:did they shorten the flippers? in the stream, it appears that everyone is having issues with attempting to trap balls and they are "walking" right up and off the ends
That’s because this isn’t a real pinball machine. It’s a cheap toy. I hope it flops.....
In one step Stern makes their standard line look higher quality because the home edition is a joke and they open the door to raise prices on their standard models due to the fact that the home edition will now be the entry level machine.
Stern the company that supposedly saved pinball is also the company that has tried to lower the quality standards and features in games. All for maximum profit. Good for them and bad for us.
Munsters.......flop
BK........flop
SW home......flop
Stern is really on a roll here.
Quoted from Jgel:This makes zero sense to me. Unless you are a direct competitor of Stern (not even sure then) why would you want it to flop? Just because you don't like it and don't want one means that you hope it fails? Just strange thinking.
Because Stern is the one constantly lowering the quality and features in pins. It lowers expectations for all pins. It’s just a big business move with very little concern about the customers. Going backwards in quality and feature offered is never a good thing. I want pins to get better and better......not worse. What’s strange about that.
Quoted from chubtoad13:I think it’s good that they are trying new markets as well. If the price point could ever get something like this down to $1000 I think a lot of people here would have a different opinion
They are not creating a new market. They are placing the home edition where the Pro was and just jacking up the price of the rest. Profit 101. Let’s not make our pins better quality when we can just make some of even less quality which will in turn make the others look better?
Quoted from DS_Nadine:It is a real pinball machine.
4500$ is not cheap.
Pinball itself is a "toy" if it's not what you make your income of.
Wishing other people bad luck gets you nothing and that bad luck hurts the company and therefore the other games they make.
Technically yes it is a real pinball machine. But Stern keeps watering down pinball and it has an overall effect of lower expectations on all pins. It is not a good thing for the hobby overall IMO. Right now we are getting less at the same time prices are increasing. There will be a breaking point to this. So why should I wish good luck to those purposely diluting pinball. Improve your quality and features and then you get praise. Not for this SW home junk.
Quoted from DS_Nadine:That's fair.
But then change the market, vote with your wallet and buy yourself a Dialed In, Houdini or Alice Cooper.
No need to wish them bad luck.
So I never said I wish them bad luck. That sounds like I am being malicious in some way. I am not a fan of the Stern home edition idea as a consumer looking for high quality pinball. So yes I would like to see this strategy fail because of what I think it does overall. I would rather see Stern use it’s far superior manufacturing to build better and better pins. Let’s say all pins from all manufacturers were 7K. I think Stern could build the best because of their capabilities and talent. A man can dream....
Quoted from littlecammi:Maybe the un-pinball-informed Costco customer sees the Stern SW home pin there and uses his phone to google it. He finds the Stern website and sees the higher prices for SW pins on there but does not distinguish any big difference between those and the one at Costco. The Costco pin looks like a bargain to him so he buys it.
So the Stern strategy is to pray on the uninformed to sell home edition machines instead of the trying to make the best pins which sell themselves strategy?
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