Nah.

Welll... It has actual metal ramps and the Tie Fighters now are Drop Targets wich give way to the Death Star. Thats an improvement to the Pro.

Actually I like that they refined that left Spiderman Home shot here (it was way difficult to hit before and my main gripe with the game) and would like to shoot it.

With a nights sleep (saw the first pic 4AM here and went to bed) I must say the only thing that really stand out bugging me has nothing to do with the game in itself but the playfield artwork. - Man this looks blend. Speedlines all the way!

In addition... is that playfield not clearcoated?
That colors have no depth. Look at Han Solos Vest. It's grey, not black. No saturation.
Propably just the reflection on the glass... I hope.

Confusion I sense in you.

It IS NOT Sterns next (Cornerstone) game for US and it doesn't take away anything from us... other than kill our hype.

But nontheless this IS Sterns next release for the moment.

Look again.

Good morning.

Whis is still Spiderman Home/ Supreme (wich have the exact same "mech" and it's nice btw.).

That the Tie fighters are now Drop targets that guard the Death Star IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN THE PRO!!!

The small display and worse lighting aside:
This thing really looks more fun than the Pro.

The Drops guarding the Death Star, the Death Star ramp divert into the other ramp (so 3 ramp shots) wich on top are steel ones and not plastic.

And I like the super-simple lock mechanism.

And flow seems great! (It's the 3rd iteration of that game so...)

Gomez knocked it out of the park... if you take the restrictions into account that is, of course.

Ok, HERE is something new (wich you may have guessed in parts):

While the other "Home" games usually have not been distributed trough retailers, this one will.

Additionally at least Star Wars Home will be available as the FIRST "Home" Pin outside the US.
That at least is great news (for me), since Spider Man Home, The Pin oder Batman Home didn't find their way here.

It is a real pinball machine.

4500$ is not cheap.

Pinball itself is a "toy" if it's not what you make your income of.

Wishing other people bad luck gets you nothing and that bad luck hurts the company and therefore the other games they make.

That's fair.

But then change the market, vote with your wallet and buy yourself a Dialed In, Houdini or Alice Cooper.

No need to wish them bad luck.

According to you Star Wars Home is not out and the first game we'll see is Elvira in October, so until then bye, thanks!

And yes Stern cares about money, that is quintessential for a company and EVERYONE AT STERN ALWAYS SAYS THIS.
Glad you finally noticed.

You put them in your own mouth.
But ok, granted, this is no "real" game, and you only talked about that.

My answer is still the same as last time:
New "real" game these next couple of days.
And Elvira still isn't a cornerstone game -no Pro, therefore not "real" by your own definition you made the last time.

I'm sure you'll change all of that what you said in hindsight as well.

Sorry, "I hope it flops....." Is totally different and non-malicious. How could I fail to see that?

Sarcasm aside I get the rest of your argument of course. Everyone of us wants the best we can get.

Edit: Honestly I didn't even notice that book. XD

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Didn't notice that.

What are you even talking about?

Themewise Thunderbirds (srsly)... but yeah, Star Wars.

Srsly the more I see of this game, the more I like it... mostly.

So the metal ramps, the better theme integration (Tie Fighter Drops guarding the ramp entrance to the Death Star), the Death star having an actual target where the ball can ricochet off instead of being just decoration like with the pro, as well as having the Tie Fighter on a spring... springing (shaking)... in a much simpler way. This game has not LESS toys then the Pro, ist has MORE!!! (I don't coun't the underused mini screen above the stand up targets as a toy. I wrote here when that game was new, that this targets should just have been drops to get a physical feedback instead of the screen animation - and now they are.)
(Edit: I forgot the 3 Color GI, but that still is no game changer - well, maybe in "lightsaber battle" mode.)

Mechanically I'm intrigued how they tried to do cost savings (like the slings not firing individually) as I have a background in product development; but not so much on the customer end of things, of course. But still, unless you're in multiball it will make no difference gameplaywise, whatsoever.

And regarding the price:
1500$ less then the Pro is a huge amount of money for a missing screen, less coils and missing coin slot mount.
Additionally for me as a "Newb", when I had made my mind up to buy a full fledged pinball machine I wanted to buy a TOTAN but preferred to buy a Ghostbusters Pro NIB. Because no matter how good a TOTAN is, I couldn't imagine to pay the same price for a 20 year old game as for a brand new one. Going back to that thought I'd buy a Star Wars Home oder a 2 year old used Pro, because I'd still have warranty and customer service on that!

Should I have bought a TOTAN? - Now I'd say yes. BUt this still were my thoughts back then thinking of this of a huge investment going into a mostly new hobby.

Well, to be honest I will be buying no game because I'm broke.

Additionally I don't even like Star Wars and only bought a NIB Star Wars Pro because I (usually) love Steve Ritchie games... but sold this one after 2 weeks because of code and sparse toys and got a Star Trek Pro instead - So the next go to game for me would be GoT or Black Knight SoR. (I like SoR better but I wan't the full game there whereas with GoT I'd only want the Pro, so my next game will propably be GoT Pro because moneyz.)

So no, I wouldn't buy one but I am very intrigued to play one.
But, if Star Wars was my go to license I would even reconsider buying a Home Edition (after playing it).

That is propably wrong but generally you're right.
I explain why.

The alternated backbox, with the smaler lower part for LCD and Speakers, is a part that is especially designed and manufactured for this game.
Usually it would make more sense to keep the old form factor since it means no additional cost and no additional stock, since it can be used on all models.
So there will be a business reason to make this (propably more expensive due to low quantities) part, wich propably is the cost saving of the smaler screens, smaler speakers (and propably to drive the weight down as well since the usual games are a tiny bit to heavy that a supermarket would handle them) and to differenciate it from the bigger models as someone allready said.

Of course it is.
Not "pennies", but yes, it's a mass product.

Just to get a feeling:
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Sharp-brand-5-5inch-4k-lcd_60839964359.html

First that is just an example link since most of the prices aren't "open".

Second that thing is supposed to be a "Sharp" display, wich is a Japanese Company but (as all the rest) manufacture in China.
So if it is not fake (wich you could test with a smaller order) it shouldn't be junk.

But yes, you'd usually try to buy directly from the manufacturer. At least if the bulk you want is big enough.
While Stern is "big" as a pinball manufacturer it does not need nearly as many LCD for their machines as Apple, so the way to buy directly from the manufacturer isn't always possible because until certain numbers they woun't deal with you.

-> Whil I have some background, this is all mostly hypothetical! Noone here really knows what Sterns expenses are and how many machines they sell.

What is so hard to understand on the word "example" and how is getting the best price of a well known manufacturer for a product you usually do a contract wich includes failure rates "cheapening out"?

It get's cheaper the more you promise to buy. Just god beware if something hits you like a recession and you have a contract where you have to buy stuff you don't need anymore. Switched companies because of exactly that stuff happening. Promised to buy thousands of engines for years contract manufactured for a car that, from one day to the next, noone bought anymore.
And that engine was contracted to have maximum failure rate of 15% reaching 150.000 Miles. If they don't hit that goal or deliver in the timeframe you write down it has consequences. (Good contracts are a must.)
- Just to give you an idea how that works.

Where do you guess 99% of electronics in your home come from... pinball machines not included?

That is a rhetorical question, since I won't see your answer anymore.

Goodbye!

You pay bottom line, you get bottom line quality.
That's why you define specs for failure rates. The manufacturer of course wants to pay as little as he can... for specified quality.

And testing usually does include tests for that. Like taking a some coils out of every shipment and fire it up tens of thousands of times.

I read here (and heard) the exact opposite.

You'll know tomorrow.

Edit: Lol... Thought I was in the JP thread.
Just watch the game on twitch and hear for yourself.

This part of the recent George Gomez interview with 'Special when lit', stolen from 'TWIP' sounds awesome:
"So what I did is, I came up with this thing where in the Death Star Multiball, which is started by taking down the drop targets a certain number of times. You get a four ball multiball, and when you’re down to a single ball, we start a timer and we start strobing the lights on the ramp, and you have within the timer to get control of the ball and make the shot."

And for the tech guys:
The whole game runs with only ONE (!!!) node board (wich explains the simultaniously firing slingshots and stuff).

That is different to any other pinball with a broken board, power supply, whatever in wich way?

You don't have to actively make up things to dislike the game.