Link?

nice closeup.

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OK so what phase of Stern releases are we in now; Acting like the MSRP is the real game price?

Yup, and that really wasn't that long ago.

- cabinet is made of quad walled cardboard
- playfield is still mdf, but now has a nascar window peel-off adhered to it to keep the art from chipping
- pinballs are 3D printed
- runs on 6 D cell batteries

So your favorite car company makes the x5000 and you own one..... but they also make the economy model SB1.07. Do you unload on the car company because they are trying to capture market share?

Don’t forget the dark ages of pinball.

There is a modded SW Pro 30 minutes from me for $4700...been sitting awhile too.

https://www.twitch.tv/deadflip

I gotta admit I kinda like it from the stream so far, not enough to pay $4500 for one but it looks fun to play.

Watching the DF stream, it really doesn't look like much less of a pin than what they do with the Stern Pro's. If it were ~$3500 I'd be comfortable recommending it to non-pinhead friends.

Thanks for this, watching it now! Looks cool to me, not something I would buy but could be something I'd buy as a gift. Like my young niece and nephew visited me recently and loved my pinball machines, but they are too big and expensive for them to ever have and their parents have zero interested in buying a used pin. This could be something I could buy them as a christmas gift depending on price range and size. Does anyone know the dimensions of this machine? I think at $2999 this would be cool, at $3999 maybe a bit much, have to wait and see what retail price is I guess.

I think this is a really smart package, lots of clever stuff to keep costs down while still providing a solid 'real' beginner pinball experience. Like the physical ball lock that turns into a newton ball to unlock, that's nice. Cheap, simple, provides a really easy to understand physical interaction that rewards you with a multiball. Drop targets that open up a ramp shot, another really easy to grasp idea for a new player. It's smart stuff imo. Metal ramps, habit rails, a spinner, it feels like a legit package.

But ... $4500 is too much. If that's what it take to make this then I guess oh well. But it's too expensive for casuals, too decontented for 'real' pinball people. I'm not mad at Stern for trying, or upset that this is the reveal. I've got the stream on, I'm curious and having fun looking at it and examining the ways they built it.

But I can't see it being a success with the price. Oh well!

Would love to flip this game. I usually love anything SW. The layout looks fun. If it’s different code wise, I’d buy it second hand once’s the used market price for it stabilizes. It’s Premium bigger brother edition is at the top of my wanted list. This looks different enough that it would be fun to have both if you were a SW fan.

Good morning.

Whis is still Spiderman Home/ Supreme (wich have the exact same "mech" and it's nice btw.).

That the Tie fighters are now Drop targets that guard the Death Star IS SO MUCH BETTER THEN THE PRO!!!

It must be really lightweight. In the stream the machine shakes a little bit with every press of the flipper. The problem is price, looks like a 3K machine.

agreed, in terms of theme integration

You know, that is really cool.

did they shorten the flippers? in the stream, it appears that everyone is having issues with attempting to trap balls and they are "walking" right up and off the ends

Not the machine I was hoping for, but it looks pretty nice on the Deadflip stream

I know and it was my first NIB so I probably didn't even get that great of a deal. Spidey was a full featured game as well and wasn't made when they were in financial trouble either.

They have better variety of animations and clips even callouts than the regular machines.

I’m seeing and hearing a ton of new stuff

Looks kinda fun...I’d play it!

It does look good, I’m truly surprised.

Probably have it set steep to make it look faster

The small display and worse lighting aside:
This thing really looks more fun than the Pro.

The Drops guarding the Death Star, the Death Star ramp divert into the other ramp (so 3 ramp shots) wich on top are steel ones and not plastic.

And I like the super-simple lock mechanism.

And flow seems great! (It's the 3rd iteration of that game so...)

Gomez knocked it out of the park... if you take the restrictions into account that is, of course.

it does look like a fun game and i'd be on board all day at $2000. i realize that they can't make it profitable at that number but pricing it at the same level as a used Stern Pro just seems crazy. i know its different target markets but still.

the spinner does look super good and seems like it might be the same one on beatles (which is amazing).

Per the brochure on Stern's website:
Unboxed weight: 220#
Dimensions: 68.5"X27"X48"

"Normal" Stern pin (BK Pro):
Unboxed weight: 250#
Dimensions: 75.5"X27"X55"

Definitely my thoughts on it....maybe at some point enough costs can be cut to get one of these style of pins down to 2500-3000 but I'm not sure how.

Aside from the pricing issue....my biggest complain with this entire thing is actually the amount of strobing of the GI. It's *insane*....like Transformers level insane. That really needs to be toned down.

Yeah, sounds right. Next phase is the litany of 'I'm out' / 'I'm in'.

or this

Simple: Made in China, Thailand, Vietnam, etc. is what it would take, and I hope we never have to go there.....

I see the potential for a new model in Sterns hierarchy. Home, pro, premium and LE. They seem to be playing the line of pro cost.

If not, they are nuts at this price. If they want newbs to buy machines, they absolutely must go under 2k. Thus means they must be very creative by using new pf materials, fewer mechs and somehow keep it fun and like real Pinball.

Actually looks decent enough gameplay wise. It's not like the pro provides more mechs or anything. A decent option for a SW fan that wants to play pinball and save $1400 compared to the pro.

To expensive for non pinballers!
Drop the price to 3500 then maybe

Please come defend yourself good sir

Ok, HERE is something new (wich you may have guessed in parts):

While the other "Home" games usually have not been distributed trough retailers, this one will.

Additionally at least Star Wars Home will be available as the FIRST "Home" Pin outside the US.
That at least is great news (for me), since Spider Man Home, The Pin oder Batman Home didn't find their way here.

This sucks.

Might have been asked. But I want to know what happens if your ball drains while the other is stuck in the lock. It looks like it has no mechanical way to release the ball. So if the ball you are playing drains....................

Correct. You'll lose your ball.

This plays much like Supreme (which I've played a bunch) which I believe is the same as SM home.

Got 'eeeeem! Where you at, @lotr_breath?

If they sold these through Costco and had a couple on the floor, they might actually sell...

So then the ball is there for a multi-ball at the start of next game? In other words, there is no "reset" to this?

...

Lets say you are on your 3rd ball, and have the ball stuck there for the ball lock.... and you lose your ball.

This ball that is in the lock starts there on the next game? Really?

That's actually a brilliant idea which brings new gameplays.

But the pin itswlf is pointless... empty, simple...
For that price I'd rather get a 2nd hand or routed SW pro than this... in a heartbeat...

Yes. And like older games (Taxi for example), there is lock stealing. So P1 drains with a ball in there, P2 can one shot multiball right away.

Yes, really. Just like many older games.

A good way to avoid this is to knock the ball out instead of losing your ball while it's still locked.

I don't mind lock stealing. (Love how Pink Panther does it.)

I guess what I mind is that the game has no way to start fresh. You could walk up to it with a 3 ball multi-ball waiting on ball 1, shot 1.

Not bad at all. Maybe at a better price point.

Not my cup of tea but the game has metal ramps drop targets two toys a spinner thins people have been bitching about for years