Wonder how detailed the manual from the coin box is?

See above pics which look like MDF playfield, particle board cabinet, and flimsy bracket holding the back glass with two tiny screws.

I think the difference is much more than coin mechs and I’d personally question how long these will last (if played routinely) given the MoC’s on this game.

Any parent with any knowledge of craftsmanship will see these materials and laugh at the price tag. I’d look at the SW Pro next to it and ask “how much for the real one?”. My $0.02 looking at the materials vs price.

LOL how many NIB make you think wow that game is worth every penny

With the materials used and the lack of manual, these appear to be treated as disposable pins. I'd say the average consumer would pay 1k, maybe 1.5k max for a temp toy. Once they break, they will go up for sale, just like the ol' air hockey table covered with dust in the basement.

Ah, yes. The old air hockey/laundry folding table lol.

Its really unfortunate Stern cut so many corners and tagged this with an unrealistic price as it looks good and plays very well. Put this is a SW Pro cabinet and I’d be a potential buyer.

Watching the video, it reeks of cheap. I'd never drop $4000 on that.

I haven't verified this for sure yet. But I believe the main CPU and the other node board are standard Spike 2 boards. Which would mean that the documentation is already out there. And that they will be as readily available as they are for any Spike 2 system. The other main parts (flippers, light boards, slings) are all standard too I believe. There is also built in diagnostics for Spike 2. A manual is rarely needed. Mostly just for part numbers.

So, if these are indeed the same parts used in the other Spike 2 games. Then there will be no more problem servicing these as any other Spike 2. I don't know anyone who has difficulty keeping their modern Stern games running and in good repair.

For me, serviceability does not come into the equation when considering purchasing this or not.

Just my 2 cents.

How about for the switch matrix? Lamp matrix? Coil wiring? Driver transistor number/location?

The manuals used to explain in detail what each software adjustment did and what the factory default is.

Hate to say it, but the inflated $4k price is likely due in part to the fact that it is made in one of the most costly labor/regulatory markets anywhere. If it were assembled in China or some SE Asian country it could probably be profitably priced more in the $2-2.5k range, which would make the BOM/features compromises a lot easier to swallow.

You mean like Thunderbirds?

I played the one at the Cleveland Show, yesterday. Overall, I liked it. It actually shot pretty well.
It of course does feel a bit cheaper. That mostly seemed to be because it feels lighter than a standard pin when nudging and slap saving.
For some reason it was set to 5 ball. Plus, I earned a couple extra balls.
By the time I was done with that game, I didn't quite notice the cheaper feel.

It of course isn't overly deep and lacks the great use of the action button with the shot multiplier that the commercial models have.
For me, that is what really makes the standard SW shine.

By no means a terrible game.
If it was under $3k NIB, I'd consider one.

I was thinking I experienced one on a BKSOR pro about 8 months ago.

Ya but it seems even after playing you agree its a grand too much at least,thanks for some feedback tho,more ppl whos played it should start chiming in

I played this game a couple of times in Cleveland.

I could see this being the model for the new PRO models once they put in a functioning coin door.

It shot well, and felt more like a commercial product than their other home models I played.

The LCD is too small as far away as it is.

Two of the pop bumpers use the same driver and the slings both operate at the same time, making it louder than normal when you're in the pops or hitting the slings.

The ball lock is ridiculous. You can't shoot it to lock a ball in it, best you can do is wait for one to accidentally fall into it.

I told my buddy that it would be a good deal at 3000, but I bet they'd try to get 4000 for it.

Some of this stuff is going to find its way to the pro models. Count on it.

Oh yea - one other thing. There is a target in the center of the playfield that is really almost impossible to hit. Can't be done from the left flipper, and would be nearly impossible from the right. I spent an entire game trying just to see if I could do it.

Ya that ball lock was on Spiderman home, and you're right. It is more of a luck shot than skill, unless you got good at some ricochet shot

Sounds not so good man,should be better for that cash,thanks for the imput

Well, 60 days now since this game was announced. Still the only thing available for it is a sales flyer on Stern's website. So much for support. :rolleyes:

Lol,not surprised!

Game being streamed with George Gomez:

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Flip N Out Pinball Streaming Exclusive

Game manual is now available:

https://sternpinball.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/StarWars_Pin_web.pdf

No schematics in it.