Louisville, KY
I played ac/dc today and it just does not feel as sturdy or as solid as my Spiderman,Is this true or is it just me?
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Quoted from BLACK_ROSE:I Assume you played the Pro ,
Yes it was the pro and it played great as it is a Ritchie/Lyman game,with great flow and very fast ( so sharpen your reflexes BR or the ball will drain before you know it)The bell was cool and I shot the bell with the cannon-Really cool!The theme is not for me though.Maybe the Le and premium will be sturdier as SR said no expense was spared in the bill of materials.
I do think the Legs are not quite as sturdy as the past.
Quoted from markmon:the components being used are the same and the quality seems good enough. The things that are important are the moving parts. The pop bumpers, switches, and electrical components seem equal or better than the WMS counterparts.
I think this is true also.
Quoted from futurepinhead:I'm the chubby redhead ... can't miss me.
I will be looking for you. 
Quoted from Jeff_PHX_AZ:I'am just glad there still making machines for us to play, and there American made still!
AMEN!! 
Quoted from dung:Not really sure why the american made matters?
America needs jobs,this economy is killing some of us,Just glad that Stern is an American company and I am not dissing other countries,just glad We still have some manufacturing going on here!
Quoted from StevenP:I did just read that Stern is using 5-ply wood for the pf instead of the regular 7-ply.
Surely not. My sm is 7 ply. That makes what JJP is doing with 11 ply above and beyond!! although they are probably thinner layers.
Quoted from stevebighead:.Bye they way, have you measured a 2"x4"lately?
2 x 4 are 1 1/2" x 3 1/2" and have been for at least 35 years(before that they were bigger)the quality of lumber has gone down,because of the smaller new growth trees being used.Less than 20 years ago we were still using a lot of old growth trees.Lumber and building materials has actually gotten better with the use of engineered lumber for load bearing beams and joists.As a whole housing quality is better than ever before with the use of new tchniques,technology, new materials and better design,with a small caveat of it has to be done RIGHT!!!
I will get off of my soap box now,Sorry for the rant! 
man I think I opened a can of worms here,That was not my intent,I think Stern does have very good quality but just not as sturdy as a few years ago,I think with the cabinets,playfeilds and legs they need to use what they used to use!I am a big Stern supporter as well as JJP and now Jpop,It is all pinball and we should support them and voice our opinion when they go wrong as well as nudge them for what we want in a pin(in a good way)
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Quoted from BLACK_ROSE:Mexican's were Pay-n me under the Table a few Yr's ago to do some Tile work in La Quinta .. [
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A Mexican Restaurant in Clemmon's , NC ... Got some Tequilla to go too.......
Thats great BR,I got a good chuckle out of that! 
I still love Stern and with a little nudging(not enough to tilt) they should be persuaded to bring back up the QC!! They did get SR,Gomez and Lyman back and Borg seems to be coming into his own!
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Quoted from markmon:The stern Sam sound chipset is far superior to anything midway produced. My ironman, Transformers, or tron with pro sub absolutely blows away any of the Williams games I have -
Agreed.My SM has way better sound than my STTNG and they both have the same speaker upgrades.
Quoted from McCune:This thread was an attempt to bag on AC/DC and it failed !
Not at all. I was asking a question as to whether The new Sterns were as solid as 2007 SM.This is not a crack on Stern as I love their pins,at the same time I do not want to see build quality decrease...
From what many have said that the LE'S are the same and the pro's are slightly less and maybe the legs are more springy.
Again I am a strong Stern supporter and I want them to build quality and Jim with your reputation I am sure you do too!
Sorry for the rant and all is cool.
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