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Stern X Supreme new machine

By nik2000

6 years ago


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#39 6 years ago

More pinball = better , except on Pinside.

#48 6 years ago
Quoted from Frax:

I've never agreed with this. We need quality, not quantity, to bring back pinball. Putting out stupid games like this, that are ripoffs of what was already a questionable business venture, and then putting EVEN LESS WORK INTO IT to make it appealing.. this thing is terrible in every way from what's been shown so far.
No music.
No art, just a 9000 point font.
Terrible sound.
Literally recycled playfield design.
Rules and animations that have nothing to do with the theme (Meteor Shower? lol..okay....)
And just waiting for the lulz of a price point. Given that we've calculated that it's leftover SM home model pieces, I'll revise my 40k estimate down to 8500.

If this venture brings in 1000 new pinball machine buyers, not specifically for this machine but in general, that is bad?

More pinball machine buyers would mean more competition between the manufacturers which should increase innovation?

I just don't see how this machine being advertised and marketed to a new audience is bad for pinball.

It also appears that this technique is working in reverse and neither of us had heard of the Supreme brand until today?

#56 6 years ago
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And I'm even more unlikely to buy anything from their brand today than I was yesterday. These attempts to market to people that have very little interest in the first place is just like....I don't get it. Spiderman has massive appeal across HUGE swaths of age, income, race, and gender.
Supreme...not so much. It's not going to bring in 1000 new pinball buyers. If you get *really* lucky conversion rate of purchasers of this game to people that end up purchasing further NIB pins is going to be like....20 percent. These people clearly have enough money to be buying pins RIGHT NOW. Just because they buy one that fits their niche collection of branded garbage doesn't automatically make them a further contributor, and honestly... given Stern's recent history? Can you IMAGINE the entitled pissing and whining on social media if there's actually something wrong with them? XD

PBR and this are just rethemes, I'm not sure what you don't get about it. I just don't think this project warrants all the negativity and hate it is getting on here. I think its pretty cool.

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