I'm not crazy psyched, but I want one, only if it was priced within the normal Stern pro range. I'd want to throw it on location for 4-8 months too, but an all white cab in a dive bar?

Not judging, Aurich? mmmmmmok. I'll do it AND admit it.

Seriously, I AM judging. You Supreme brand buyers are morons.

Now I can hear many people crying "nooo, more interest and awareness will make the prices go up!!!"

Which is a sad consequence of more people getting to know pinball. =)

Actually, in reference to a lot of Pinsiders complaining about prices going up, this Supreme dealio is a super smart move by Stern. How does a company like Stern find a market to sell pins to if their current customers (operators and home collectors/players) are constantly complaining about every new release price going up, up, and up with no end to increases in sight? Try to find a new set of customers with endlessly deep pockets, that's how. The Supreme customers do not seem to care that they're getting repeatedly fleeced by Supreme, in fact.. they welcome it! Therefore, they won't care if they're getting fleeced by a pinball company such as Stern, should they get hooked on pinball through this initial Supreme branded machine. Smart move Stern. Smart move!!

I'm going to wait and play it on location.

1 play = $20
3 plays for $50

Lmao yes yes!!! My son also do the same lol made lots money too lol

Blah Blah Blah Im Aurich I understand everything, even the stuff the kids are into. Im a hip california dude....lol.

Dont listen to this guy. Im not sure why any one does. Opinions unwanted.

Whatevs. It’s the collab that matters. Stern gets so much visibility. Pinball gets “discovered” by a whole different section of the population that fancy’s themselves as trend setters. Very interesting development.

When do they announce pricing?

You have perfectly illustrated the point why Supreme's entire concept is horsesh-t, and anyone buying into it is a fool. This EXACT STATEMENT is absolutely no different than me saying "Why in the hell would I buy a 44$ Supreme shirt when I can get a 4$ Hanes"

SMH.

It's boring. It's not even a visually interesting font.

Why do you assume this took anyone with half a brain more than 5 minutes of Google search to figure out? It's immediately obvious when you go look at what comes up that the entire company is built around leeching off the consumer, with fake ass limited availability and overpriced everything. It's not like this crap is made of anything rare, or special. It's not painstakingly hand made and engineered like a 400k watch. It's just the same ol' s--t we all buy, with a logo slapped on it. It's totally absurd. CHOPSTICKS AND BRICKS, COME ON.

I hate to think what Stern will do if they find that they can sell a crappy re-branded zizzle for a huge amount of cash. What will this do for the future of Stern pinball marketing and production?

This thread is further confirmation that Pinside is full of out of touch, old, white guys.

Give them a bunch of extra money to use to build more games? Sounds awesome to me.

Exactly. This pin is for Supreme Hypebeasts, not pinsiders.
Game layout aside, did people lose their minds when "No Fear" was made?
Another brand people feel strong about.
Companies making moves to keep this thing we love going.
If Stern did everything pinside wanted, they would have been gone years ago.

No. The issue isn't that this is a branded theme, the issue most here have is that is a very douchey theme marketed to douches with more money than sense.

oh Pinside!

On the note of the "reskin", I streamed the Spider-man home edition.
It's a pretty fun game.

Anything that brings attention to pinball is great. But man, Supreme really is the worst. Their entire design aesthetic is straight up stolen from an artist... who they then later tried to sue for 10 million dollars for copyright infringement. Truthfully I'd rather have a Brooks Brothers pinball haha. I do think the machine itself looks strikingly nice.

Link for the curious:

https://www.theodysseyonline.com/real-hero-behind-supreme

This should be a red flag. When I agree with this guy?

Better to be an out of touch "old white guy" at 36 than to be a broke ass millennial overpaying for everything for the manufactured 'prestige' of it. Thank you!

At least that game has actual art, sound, and rules. At least that game wasn't a recycled layout.

Come on Jack.... we know 'doing your thing' relies heavily on Stern at this point, but you don't have to step up to bat for them on something as ludicrous as this. They're going to make money, yay! That will allow them to keep developing real games, YAY! Claiming this will bring in any functional number of positive contributors to pinball at large? LOL. Like you guys say.. 'it's not for us'....and 'us' is people that regularly want to buy games, that will be buying games without marketing stunts like this, and that support the aftermarket. People buying a Supreme pin mostly aren't going to do that. They are the epitome of short attention spans. They're going to stick the thing in a corner, turn it on 5 times ever, and flop out their "oh look at me" of the week, and then move on to buying a Supreme branded 800 dollar thermos the week after.

That's a fucked up catalogue. Axes, Pinball, Chicken Dinner Ashtrays, the fuck?

Jack, love ya man, but this customer base is the very definition of poser.
AGAIN...good for Stern.
pos·er1
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noun
a person who acts in an affected manner in order to impress others.
synonyms: exhibitionist, poseur, posturer, fake; informalshow-off
"he's such a poser"

Doing my thing relies on people, and I'm not in the market for calling others douches or posers. That's how you keep new people out. I'm not okay with that.
If someone who can afford to get their hands on this, wants to learn more about pinball and where to find help, rules, etc, and stumbles upon this thread... You just lost another potential pinhead.

I personally love the look of this pin, the 'Supreme' doesn't speak to me, but the layout is fun if you play it.
I'm only stuck in this thread because I literally came in here to celebrate and found mostly negative things.
Can't change that, but I will say this pin is confirmed fun to play. This isn't them throwing a turd out to the public.

Shit... I'm a POSER! <3

Lol. You impress others with some hard earned skills, not your wallet. Big difference.

i hope they work in a "stand in line for days" multiball, "get out your wallet" hurry-up and a "total-poser" wizard-mode.

I could be wrong. I've heard you carry one of these...
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Oh, don't get me wrong. I've watched several vids of the spiderman version, and I think it's a fine product at a weird price point. I'm all for Stern doing 'throwback' type gameplay with simpler rules and oldschool art design. But this isn't about Spiderman, and I never said anything about the layout other than it's recycled...which....it........is?

Frankly, you can be worried about the inclusiveness towards people that are blindly suckered into INHERENTLY EXCLUSIVE items. I don't care. I don't have to like people buying into this garbage any more than I like flippers scoring every damn decent project within 500 miles of me. There's nothing 'inclusive' about this brand. It's entire premise is based on the concept of exclusion via fake limited availability. I see no reason to welcome that into any part of my life, pinball or not.

I admire a brand that can make millions from nothing more than applying a graphics scheme to an every day product and charge 50x the price. Rely on brand perception and peer pressure, which are 2 things always present in society.

Grey Goose drinkers, here's a great read on this a few years back from NY Mag.

"The man behind Grey Goose vodka understood that Americans want to pay more—You just have to give them a good story. Now he has a new tale to tell. it’s about a tequila called Corazón."

http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/bizfinance/biz/features/10816/

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Man, remember when skaters were punks, stoners and metalheads? Now it's all rich preppie boys.

I owe you a firm handshake my friend.

Dammit. Now I need that.

You couldn't pay me to play that hideous box of douche

Wouldn't staring at a bright red playfield like this hurt your eyes after a while? Not sure if this is even meant to be played in the first place.

When Kaneda claims credit for this Pinside is going to break the Internet.

I can picture what the meeting between Gary and the employees was like. (Gary) "Hey guys this company called Supreme contacted me and wanted us to make them pinball machines" (Employee at Stern) "That's a real douchey company Gary. Tell them we will contract it for $5k per machine. They can afford it. (Gary) "Really? Ok then who is going to design it?" (Employees) "No one. Just take the spider man home edition and get Supremes art department to send us the print they want"

This pin prob took a week to get together and get approved by Supreme. Stern already gets paid and has nothing to do with it after it is out of their door. They don't have to market it or anything. Supreme is buying them and selling them. This deal prob helped Stern hire the 3 additional programmers which is a good thing. With pinball getting more popular I can see Stern doing this more often with brands. Easy money for them with minimal effort.

That Instagram post has 1.6 million views....

The ultimate in irony: a community who claims to love Pinball is somehow upset about a new pinball machine.

Just wait until the clown pukers fill it with red LEDs.

Naw, it's just a golden turd. Just as ridiculous as civet cat feces coffee and $640 goverment toilet seats.

I have no interest in this, but the fact that it exists is only a positive thing. Sure, some jerkwad "look at me!" fashion tryhard will end up buying it, but so what? Not everything needs to be for us, and it gives Stern an injection of cash from a new source (albeit on a short run). It's no different than when Apple makes a tiny run of gold iPhones or a watch maker makes a limited run of ridiculously blinged out watches to sell to some rich CEOs that don't tell time any better than any other of their watches. These products aren't for us.

The Spider-Man Home Edition is kinda fun. There's a lot of cost cutting in the build (simultaneous pop bumpers firing, simple mechs, etc.), but I highly doubt the buyer of this Supreme pinball machine is going to care much. It's a trophy of sorts.

$100k by Christmas.

Thanks for the information, Aurich. I will chalk not knowing what "Supreme" or "streetwear" is to the fact that I long ago passed the time in my life that a logo on anything impressed me in the least. In fact, I would say my life experiences are similar to yours. Almost universally the people I've known, directly or indirectly, that were attracted to these "brands" were using this to make up for some enormous deficiency or inadequacy in their own lives.

I wasn't throwing stones. I honestly don't care what people spend their money on, and I find no issue with this machine or brand, except I think it would have been cooler if it was an original layout, not a re-used one (but they put their logo on a brick, so maybe originality is not their thing). I have $300 disposable income, but wonder how much I would actually need to not care about spending it on a t-shirt, or from another angle, what it's like to value a t-shirt that much. To each their own. I own a lot of stupid shit.

Stern has impressed me with this one. What they lack in quality and innovation, they make up for in business marketing. When your product no longer justifies the price, target those who don’t care, but must have it anyway.
Good job Stern.

I just want to know which mod maker is going to step up here. I already see lots of opportunities to add a mini Supreme Kayak and lifejacket, lighted cactus keychain, thermos, alphabet vase, chicken dinner ash tray and axe to the game. Instead of the standard $69.99 for a light up toy, now you could charge $269.99.

I wouldn’t want to be the mod maker that tries to use the Supreme logo.

They can just make the toys red...not like there is anything special about them anyway.

When I saw Supreme, I was hoping it was an Idiocracy pin.

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