Stern loves a money grab when possible..... take a spidermam home machine which didnt sell well... retheme it to a brand people pay big money for and charge double or triple the price. Why not....
Stern loves a money grab when possible..... take a spidermam home machine which didnt sell well... retheme it to a brand people pay big money for and charge double or triple the price. Why not....
Innovation? Funny that you mention that when they clearly recycled this from a previous machine.
Jokes aside, this brand has a limited reach. Sure, they will likely sell a few of these machines. But as someone else has already pointed out, a lot of the products sold with this brand get bought up by those who plan on reselling them anyway. Plus things like a brick or an article or clothing based on this brand are likely to be bought by most even if they are overpriced....but blowing a few hundred bucks is nothing. If they charge full LE prices...that will be a much harder sell.
And really, all white with just red lettering?
Quoted from ZenTron:neither of us had heard of the Supreme brand until today?
And I'm even more unlikely to buy anything from their brand today than I was yesterday. These attempts to market to people that have very little interest in the first place is just like....I don't get it. Spiderman has massive appeal across HUGE swaths of age, income, race, and gender.
Supreme...not so much. It's not going to bring in 1000 new pinball buyers. If you get *really* lucky conversion rate of purchasers of this game to people that end up purchasing further NIB pins is going to be like....20 percent. These people clearly have enough money to be buying pins RIGHT NOW. Just because they buy one that fits their niche collection of branded garbage doesn't automatically make them a further contributor, and honestly... given Stern's recent history? Can you IMAGINE the entitled pissing and whining on social media if there's actually something wrong with them? XD
You guys are completely missing the point.
This isn’t for you any more than dominos is for you.
Nobody involved in this project cares what any of us think about it. It’s a side hustle that nobody is counting on a single one of us to buy.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:You guys are completely missing the point.
This isn’t for you any more than dominos is for you.
Nobody involved in this project cares what any of us think about it. It’s a side hustle that nobody is counting on a single one of us to buy.
Completely agree. Well said Levi.
Quoted from Frax:And I'm even more unlikely to buy anything from their brand today than I was yesterday. These attempts to market to people that have very little interest in the first place is just like....I don't get it. Spiderman has massive appeal across HUGE swaths of age, income, race, and gender.
Supreme...not so much. It's not going to bring in 1000 new pinball buyers. If you get *really* lucky conversion rate of purchasers of this game to people that end up purchasing further NIB pins is going to be like....20 percent. These people clearly have enough money to be buying pins RIGHT NOW. Just because they buy one that fits their niche collection of branded garbage doesn't automatically make them a further contributor, and honestly... given Stern's recent history? Can you IMAGINE the entitled pissing and whining on social media if there's actually something wrong with them? XD
PBR and this are just rethemes, I'm not sure what you don't get about it. I just don't think this project warrants all the negativity and hate it is getting on here. I think its pretty cool.
From what litle is shown, it does appear to have "regular" legs and lock down bar. It does not have a coin door. Yes it is just a Spiderman "home" machine in drag but IMO that is a good thing. From my slight exposure to that game, it does play well.
Considering the grief that people here create about themes, here is a game that on the surface has next to none. It's either brilliant or misguided.
Quoted from BagAJellyDonuts:misguided
This, but probably on Supreme's part, not Stern's. If Stern had half a brain, they contracted to build these games at a set number of games with Supreme paying for them up front and then marking them up on their end. Stern's gonna get paid either way on this deal, I'd bet.
Talk about a TINY niche theme! I never heard of it and I like to think I am pretty aware. Well I do like the mini spiderman playfield, so the game should at least be fun to play.
I don't spend much time on Instagram but from what I'm assuming, this video already has a massive amount of hits.
Can't be anything wrong with that.
Quoted from BagAJellyDonuts:I don't spend much time on Instagram but from what I'm assuming, this video already has a massive amount of hits.
Can't be anything wrong with that.
The one I posted, which I assume is the same, only on YouTube....
has 113.
Quoted from Frax:This, but probably on Supreme's part, not Stern's. If Stern had half a brain, they contracted to build these games at a set number of games with Supreme paying for them up front and then marking them up on their end. Stern's gonna get paid either way on this deal, I'd bet.
Ya think?!!!!!?
All supreme items are limited.
It will be between 100-500 units.
It will sell out in about a minute.
Levi is correct. It’s not for pinside, it’s just something cool supreme thought of and contracted stern to do.
I think it looks really cool but I won’t attempt to buy it cuz the gameplay not so good and resale will be tough.
Quoted from extraballingtmc:Over 1m views and 11k comments in a few hours...keep hating but lots of people are loving it
This project will be a huge success and Stern got paid. Smart people running that company from the looks of it.
Like the new tic tax pinball commercial currently running every break during prime time Olympics, It’s all good.
Anyone know if this is an original design or taken from another Stern?
Quoted from InfiniteLives:I heard the dude at deep root called dibs on this theme ages ago
Yeah..i heard he came up with x supreme brand
Quoted from timtim:but its nothing new anyone remember when people were spending a ton on Bathing Ape hoodies
No, never heard of it. But I’m 46 so maybe I’m too old to know what’s cool nowadays. Another ridiculous trend is the ripped up jeans nonsense. Who pays extra for damaged clothing that will likely fall apart after a couple washings all to look like a hobo? Like I said, I must be getting old because I just don’t get it.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:This project will be a huge success and Stern got paid. Smart people running that company from the looks of it.
I think it's totally smart for Stern, and I bet they all sell out fast. Just because the brand is douchey doesn't mean it's not huge, with a following full of rich idiots. Everyone here going "I never heard of Supreme", no offense, that just means you're really out of touch, not that it's niche. This isn't some underground thing only kids know about, it's a massive brand that's had more than a fair share of wasted ink news coverage.
Seriously, it's a billion dollar brand now: https://www.gq.com/story/supreme-billion-dollar-valuation
Covered in Vogue: https://www.vogue.com/article/history-of-supreme-skate-clothing-brand
Fast Company: https://www.fastcompany.com/40480149/supreme-is-now-a-unicorn-500-million-carlyle-group-deal
Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-streetwear-brand-supreme-is-worth-1-billion-and-abercrombie-isnt-1508331601
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/fashion/guerrilla-fashion-the-story-of-supreme.html
Wired: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/using-bots-to-buy-supreme-limited-edition-streetwear/
I could go on. Point is, you haven't heard of it, fine, you're just not paying attention, it doesn't mean you have any insight into anything about how popular it is.
Admittedly ignorant of this brand. Reminds me of people buying flame throwers from Elon Musk’s company.
Quoted from InfiniteLives:I heard the dude at deep root called dibs on this theme ages ago
No way deep root is to smart to make this theme they will be making a property Brothers Pinball.
Quoted from extraballingtmc:Bape is still pretty huge but supreme is huger
No doubt
I had no idea supreme was as big as it was till I saw the Luis vuitton crossover and then read some articles.
I hate limit runs but they are making cash and been around for a while.
Quoted from Aurich:I think it's totally smart for Stern, and I bet they all sell out fast. Just because the brand is douchey doesn't mean it's not huge, with a following full of rich idiots. Everyone here going "I never heard of Supreme", no offense, that just means you're really out of touch, not that it's niche. This isn't some underground thing only kids know about, it's a massive brand that's had more than a fair share of wasted ink news coverage.
Seriously, it's a billion dollar brand now: https://www.gq.com/story/supreme-billion-dollar-valuation
Covered in Vogue: https://www.vogue.com/article/history-of-supreme-skate-clothing-brand
Fast Company: https://www.fastcompany.com/40480149/supreme-is-now-a-unicorn-500-million-carlyle-group-deal
Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/articles/why-streetwear-brand-supreme-is-worth-1-billion-and-abercrombie-isnt-1508331601
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/22/fashion/guerrilla-fashion-the-story-of-supreme.html
Wired: https://www.wired.com/2017/05/using-bots-to-buy-supreme-limited-edition-streetwear/
I could go on. Point is, you haven't heard of it, fine, you're just not paying attention, it doesn't mean you have any insight into anything about how popular it is.
Just cuz you are friends with a couple dbags who like supreme doesn’t make it a douchey brand.
I'm 99% sure I'll be getting one when they release. I know it won't be everyone's cup of tea but I enjoy the brand and think a Supreme Pinball looks awesome.
Quoted from extraballingtmc:Just cuz you are friends with a couple dbags who like supreme doesn’t make it a douchey brand.
Hey leave Justin and Kanye out of this!
It is possible to be into pinball and streetwear at the same time. I own several pins, suck at all of them but love them while I also wear my Yeezys and Off white shirts.
It's not as if they are diametrically opposed markets, just not ones with a great deal of overlap. Just my .02
Quoted from extraballingtmc:Just cuz you are friends with a couple dbags who like supreme doesn’t make it a douchey brand.
I'm not friends with anyone who likes Supreme. The entire premise of spending a ton of money to wear someone else's rip-off logo as a status symbol that's purposefully sold in small quantities to jack the price up is utterly douchey.
Idiots are spending $1000 on eBay to get a brick with the Supreme logo on it. Those people? Douchebags.
If you like Supreme that's fine. It doesn't make you a bad person. But while the box logo might impress some people, there are others who are going to assume you're an idiot for wearing it. Just the nature of the beast, have to be at peace with that if you want to be into it.
its things like supreme that renew my faith in capitalism. Those bricks are freaking hilarious, they must be fucking laughing their arses off whilst bathing in money.
Aurich, I respect your opinion and simply disagree. We all wear things that signal our various interests. That is why you can always see people wearing PAPA shirts at tournaments, etc. They want to signal they like pinball. I am not sure why someone buying a 1K brick is inherently more douchey (your words) than someone who spends 15K on a Batman Super LE. The both artificially limit supply, increase demand and charge a huge markup. I don't think people who want the limited edition of games are douches (again, your word choice).
So they had a box of WMS System 6 sound boards on a shelf and had to find a use for them? It looks like a whitewood for a design that got thrown out.
I also hope they sell 10,000 of them to whoever buys junk just for the name, and that the sales subsidize the rest of Stern production and get us some good real pinball machines at good prices.
It looks like a giant half-rolled up tube of Colgate toothpaste...
People can say what they want about Domino's but we did at least try to make it a fun, unique pin with a non-rehashed layout and, imo, some pretty great artwork. All in 6 months...
But I won't deny the smart marketing behind this. It's a win-win for Stern and Supreme with pretty minimal new effort involved.
Quoted from Normscoffee:Aurich, I respect your opinion and simply disagree. We all wear things that signal our various interests. That is why you can always see people wearing PAPA shirts at tournaments, etc. They want to signal they like pinball. I am not sure why someone buying a 1K brick is inherently more douchey (your words) than someone who spends 15K on a Batman Super LE. The both artificially limit supply, increase demand and charge a huge markup. I don't think people who want the limited edition of games are douches (again, your word choice).
15 bricks for a BM66 doesnt sound douchey?
Quoted from cosmokramer:15 bricks for a BM66 doesnt sound douchey?
I wouldn't pay 1k for a Supreme brick but I don't think there's anything inherently more douchey about preferring a limited brick due to name brand over 15,000 dollars for a limited edition game. It's just people having different hobbies and I don't care to judge people for preferring one over the other as it's their money and they can spend it as they see fit.
Edit: typo
Also, it looks like bricks aren't anywhere near 1,000 currently. It looks like they go for around 120 dollars. Still wouldn't pay that for the brick but it's a collectors item.
Quoted from Aurich:I'm not friends with anyone who likes Supreme. The entire premise of spending a ton of money to wear someone else's rip-off logo as a status symbol that's purposefully sold in small quantities to jack the price up is utterly douchey.
Idiots are spending $1000 on eBay to get a brick with the Supreme logo on it. Those people? Douchebags.
If you like Supreme that's fine. It doesn't make you a bad person. But while the box logo might impress some people, there are others who are going to assume you're an idiot for wearing it. Just the nature of the beast, have to be at peace with that if you want to be into it.
I guess you don’t buy le pinballs then?
I actually like the exclusivity of a supreme shirt. I like knowing that everyone and their dog won’t own it.
I don’t see how wasting money on a frivolous item makes one douchey? By that standard everyone here is douchey because owning a pin is frivolous and a waste of money. Look at me and my 10k by Christmas game.
Quoted from JeffreeStar:Supreme is a skateboarding shop and clothing brand established in New York City in April 1994. It's iconic in the skate industry and has a huge crossover
Reciprocal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Supreme!
RIP Reciprocal.
Quoted from Normscoffee:Aurich, I respect your opinion and simply disagree. We all wear things that signal our various interests. That is why you can always see people wearing PAPA shirts at tournaments, etc. They want to signal they like pinball. I am not sure why someone buying a 1K brick is inherently more douchey (your words) than someone who spends 15K on a Batman Super LE. The both artificially limit supply, increase demand and charge a huge markup. I don't think people who want the limited edition of games are douches (again, your word choice).
I like your example, I feel the same way about anyone buying a Supreme brick as I do a Super LE. Your money, waste it however you like. At least Supreme didn't make the people who wanted a brick fill out an application to see if they were worthy.
Quoted from extraballingtmc:I don’t see how wasting money on a frivolous item makes one douchey?
It doesn't. Nor does liking Supreme. But it's a douchey brand, and the idea of paying extra so you can wear a logo that says "I have a limited thing that's expensive on and you don't" doesn't really endear the idea to me. It's just streetwear, I don't take it all that seriously, but it's played out fake limited streetwear, so if you're really a hypebeast you could do better. Wear Rebel 8 or something instead, at least you'd be supporting real artistic talent then.
Quoted from Aurich:I like your example, I feel the same way about anyone buying a Supreme brick as I do a Super LE. Your money, waste it however you like. At least Supreme didn't make the people who wanted a brick fill out an application to see if they were worthy.
I completely forgot about the application.
If I end up being able to get one of the Supreme Pinballs your'e welcome to play it anytime. It was good chatting with you.
Wanna join the discussion? Please sign in to reply to this topic.
Great to see you're enjoying Pinside! Did you know Pinside is able to run without any 3rd-party banners or ads, thanks to the support from our visitors? Please consider a donation to Pinside and get anext to your username to show for it! Or better yet, subscribe to Pinside+!
This page was printed from https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-x-supreme-new-machine/page/2?hl=nc_pin and we tried optimising it for printing. Some page elements may have been deliberately hidden.
Scan the QR code on the left to jump to the URL this document was printed from.