Quoted from Astropin:

If ST was just released today and we knew exactly the current state of the code.....I would still buy one.

Quoted from snaroff:

From a code perspective/metric, I'm saying it's a dud. I see nothing interesting about it's modes. You obviously feel differently. For me, AC/DC, Tron, and Metallica are my "go to" pins and STLE never got played. If I didn't already have STTNG, I would have probably kept it. STTNG is a classic and STLE just didn't measure up to STTNG's brilliance.
On every other metric, I think it does pretty well (bling and lighting are strong). I did feel the lighting was a bit too much (i.e. blinding), but really loved the larger than normal inserts.

Quoted from snaroff:

The "goofy" ship flings balls at you! Much cooler than a shaky toy that shines blinding light in your face.
The theme integration is brilliant. If you don't think so, you are in a small minority.
The ramps/cannons/wireforms are brilliant...especially for the timeframe.
Drain monster? STTNG is much more forgiving than many modern Sterns.
In any event, we obviously like different things. STLE is definitely fast, but not very entertaining to me.

Quoted from jfh:

Unfortunately, that's meaningless since he has no control over dedicating the necessary programming resources to get it done and released.
I'm sure he wants it done like the rest of us, but saying it's going to be done without providing any more detail is not much more than what Stern has said publically.

Quoted from Rarehero:

I've said this before - but they're not taking advantage of the SAM system - USB updates. Waiting for a big update made sense in the old days if you had to burn a ROM every time...but that's not the case anymore....I don't know why Stern is against "trickle" updates. Sure there's lots of stuff to fix....but code the Prem/LE flashers, and release that as an update. Then when the bugs are fixed release that as an update. Then when you make some gameplay tweaks, release that as an update.
Small updates every so often will squash this psychology of abandonment, make customers happy and keep us from badgering Stern about this stuff.

Quoted from Rarehero:

He has pride because it's his game...but he can't make the programmers or management do anything.

Quoted from Rarehero:

I read what you wrote...but I know Steve and I know Stern.
I hope it works out...but hope didn't get me working flashers within a year's time - good luck to yas.

Quoted from DevilsTuner:

Or Steve leaves....AGAIN because of Gary AGAIN! Surprised he even works there now really. That was a huge shit storm when he left in the middle of HIS Avatar design.

Quoted from TigerLaw:

When did he say this?

Quoted from Rob_G:

Meaningless. Nothing is proven until the code is released and it's not the slopfest it currently is.
Rob

Quoted from Rob_G:

With ST, they would probably run more premiums because they have parts to build them rather than demand. I don't think demand was ever that high for the premium as most decided the pro was the best value. Even Steve alluded to that in one of his speeches.

Quoted from Rob_G:

Contradicting what? Your statement has nothing to do with what I said. Now I do like the premium model the best (dig the cabinet art), but I own a pro.
Rob

Quoted from RobT:

You would think that Stern would use this as a marketing opportunity and make some kind of official announcement about it.
Adding another experienced programmer to your team is a big deal, especially when one of the main criticism of your business is inadequate code support.

Quoted from erak:

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2-GQbNbfGCBO6zThhjyVEnIWoB_VzR7b
56 min mark.

Quoted from erak:

I know. I was just posting because I think thats what Rob_G was referring too.
Pro is just as fun. And only a few less features. But the prem and LE difference not enough to justify the $$ difference for the LE.
Premium vs LE. Trim package art package and head insignia Lights.
Pro. Trim. Not all rgb Leds, no laser, virtual kickback, art package. No potatoes. No leaning ship.
Pro is the best deal in my books for basically the same game. Its not like its missing magnets, pop up targets, spinning discs, a flipper etc. Like most differences between LE's and pros.
Its basically art, trim and lighting differences. There is no one feature missing that drastically changes how the game is played or plays.

Quoted from DevilsTuner:

Can I get some of the girl scout cookies your smoking. a pen laser and a piece of shaded acrylic from my sons glow worm beg to differ. I would say more but I ha......oh look something shiny what where you talking about. Thats the market stern caters to with there BLING!

Quoted from jawjaw:

The only worthwhile thing the pro is missing from the premium is the nice glossy paint job. The lasers are a gimmick and so what if the vengeance leans forward. More color changers are nice but I like the color choices of the pro. I like the clear look and smoothness of the plastic ramps. Art package is garbage but Aurich's alternative translite and decals are the best. I just got mine and put it on last night. Simply awesome.
A big new update is exciting! Any idea how long testing usually takes?

Quoted from DevilsTuner:

Again you are impressed by lights. That bodes well for Stern. Heyyy look a Honda with a warm air intake and 60 color changing lights!

Quoted from jawjaw:

Uh, enjoy chewing on my argument I guess. If you are happy with the premium then great. It's a beautiful machine. I found it hard to justify spending a ton more for a few cosmetic things. Btw, since when was the pro msrp $6000? I bought mine in January and it was much less.

Quoted from jawjaw:

Stern's website has them listed as $5995 and $7495. Pricing has changed. Pro was $5395 when I bought it and premium was more than $2000 on top of that.

Quoted from Aurich:

Right on, you're welcome.
See if the rules on them stay current soon!

Quoted from Aurich:

Since you're not taking all the hints I'm going to just straight up tell you: yes. Yes, they work. The code is in good hands, all will be well. Don't worry about the lights.