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Quoted from o-din:Yes, I see you have four LE pinball machines in your collection. But Supreme is a true LE.
I was waiting on that! lol. I was going to say Lloyd and I are pinside's counterculture
Ha! Love the SUPREME avatar! Lolololol
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Quoted from Dent00:Says that the current bid is at $30,000...
Wow! Just...wow!
I guess it's true...drugs are getting more affordable.
Quoted from o-din:Remember, this is a limited production machine with only 100 made. And it is not tied to any band, movie, or TV show that most out in the real world would be embarrassed to have in their home, and even look sillier out on location.
Not saying everybody digs Supreme, but it is way cooler and represents today and some serious collectors more than those.
I took a shit this morning that was one of a kind too.
Quoted from TKDalumni:I seriously doubt Uncle Gary would fire up the line for 20 games...
As Levi mentioned...its all about the money. Besides, it's not like they really created much; a rehashed pin with minimal red and white coloring.
Quoted from o-din:Because the game is sold and there is no more left for you.[quoted image]
That is DEFINITELY not it.........
Quoted from Zablon:That's pretty much the crux of it all. What is 'worth' to someone is extremely (supremely?) internal. Lots of people I know are all 'wow' you own pinball machines, and they think maybe they want one....then you tell them how much they cost and they look at you like you are insane. This is just an extreme extension of the same thing. A niche product within a niche product. I would imagine most pinball enthusiasts laugh at this because there is no 'theme' to speak of and they know the actual costs. However, one of these is as rare as a prototype TZ *cough* or a Lebowski...etc. In this case it is obvious branding. However, how is that any different than those that collect Coke products, or even are brand snobs - such as the ongoing Ford vs. GM fanatics. Or Harley-Davidson etc. It really is all the same thing.
Worth is very internal, but that's where the comparison ends.
The theme is the brand (supreme) itself. It is certainly "rare", but that doesn't impart value in and of itself, as I pointed out in an earlier post.
Coke products, for the most part, cost a VERY small fraction of what this went for. It's hard to compare a $3 glass to a $39,000 (plus premium) pinball.
Ford and GM fans are getting a vehicle...something that actually serves a purpose and can be used extensively by virtually anyone. (This is called intrinsic value). Same thing with a Harley.
This is a case of simply paying for a name. Truly nothing else.
You can get better pinballs. You can get newer pinballs. You can get rarer pins, pins with more universally appealing themes, more complex pins, better light shows, tons more toys/gimmicks...heck...it is a remake! You can get THE SAME pinball.
What this boils down to is a brand. A counterculture skateboard brand that convinced locals of it's coolness. It eventually grew and spread. They create a demand by having celebs wear their items and selling them in "limited quantities" as a means to artificially inflate the prices.
Is their marketing better than most? Sure. But in the end, that's literally all you pay for. Marketing. It is marketed to idiots with too much money and no sense.
A better comparison would be Gucci. They built their product name so well, that at one point they were intentionally selling the tackiest possible clothing and slapping their "brand" (the Gucci name) on it to sell it for far more than what is was worth. (I.e. a $20 handbag selling for $600 because it had a Gucci tag)
What's really amusing is the fact that Supreme sold these pins (and their clothes, for that matter) to the very people they are rebelling against...and those people shell out many multiples of what they are worth just to be cool, not realizing that it is a culture opposed to theirs. Pathetic.
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Quoted from o-din:Sweet!
Lol! Here we go again! 
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