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Quoted from Daditude:This thread has devolved............
Because the game is sold and there is no more left for you.
Vh91supreme-sweatshirt-hooded-sweater-31 (resized).jpgQuoted from o-din:Because the game is sold and there is no more left for you.[quoted image]
That is DEFINITELY not it.........
Weird, it’s almost like different people have different tastes.
Except for clown puke LEDs - that is objectively crap.
Quoted from dirkdiggler:I don't get why the hate for music pins? Metallica, Iron Maiden and AC/DC are in Sterns top 5 games and within top 10 to 15 games ever made by any manufacturer.
Why I don't like them? Because it is tired music that I outgrew over 30 years ago and can't stand to listen to it now. It's fucking ancient crap being passed off as recent and I won't even play them. Not to mention the hideous artwork. And no they are not in the top 10-15 games of all time.
Quoted from investingdad:When I first saw this pin with the Supreme theme, no lie, I thought it was a joke. I'd never heard of Supreme before. Apparently the joke is on me because it's an actual thing.
Who knew?
I thought the exact same thing...…...
That's pretty much the crux of it all. What is 'worth' to someone is extremely (supremely?) internal. Lots of people I know are all 'wow' you own pinball machines, and they think maybe they want one....then you tell them how much they cost and they look at you like you are insane. This is just an extreme extension of the same thing. A niche product within a niche product. I would imagine most pinball enthusiasts laugh at this because there is no 'theme' to speak of and they know the actual costs. However, one of these is as rare as a prototype TZ *cough* or a Lebowski...etc. In this case it is obvious branding. However, how is that any different than those that collect Coke products, or even are brand snobs - such as the ongoing Ford vs. GM fanatics. Or Harley-Davidson etc. It really is all the same thing.
Quoted from Zablon:That's pretty much the crux of it all. What is 'worth' to someone is extremely (supremely?) internal. Lots of people I know are all 'wow' you own pinball machines, and they think maybe they want one....then you tell them how much they cost and they look at you like you are insane. This is just an extreme extension of the same thing. A niche product within a niche product. I would imagine most pinball enthusiasts laugh at this because there is no 'theme' to speak of and they know the actual costs. However, one of these is as rare as a prototype TZ *cough* or a Lebowski...etc. In this case it is obvious branding. However, how is that any different than those that collect Coke products, or even are brand snobs - such as the ongoing Ford vs. GM fanatics. Or Harley-Davidson etc. It really is all the same thing.
Worth is very internal, but that's where the comparison ends.
The theme is the brand (supreme) itself. It is certainly "rare", but that doesn't impart value in and of itself, as I pointed out in an earlier post.
Coke products, for the most part, cost a VERY small fraction of what this went for. It's hard to compare a $3 glass to a $39,000 (plus premium) pinball.
Ford and GM fans are getting a vehicle...something that actually serves a purpose and can be used extensively by virtually anyone. (This is called intrinsic value). Same thing with a Harley.
This is a case of simply paying for a name. Truly nothing else.
You can get better pinballs. You can get newer pinballs. You can get rarer pins, pins with more universally appealing themes, more complex pins, better light shows, tons more toys/gimmicks...heck...it is a remake! You can get THE SAME pinball.
What this boils down to is a brand. A counterculture skateboard brand that convinced locals of it's coolness. It eventually grew and spread. They create a demand by having celebs wear their items and selling them in "limited quantities" as a means to artificially inflate the prices.
Is their marketing better than most? Sure. But in the end, that's literally all you pay for. Marketing. It is marketed to idiots with too much money and no sense.
A better comparison would be Gucci. They built their product name so well, that at one point they were intentionally selling the tackiest possible clothing and slapping their "brand" (the Gucci name) on it to sell it for far more than what is was worth. (I.e. a $20 handbag selling for $600 because it had a Gucci tag)
What's really amusing is the fact that Supreme sold these pins (and their clothes, for that matter) to the very people they are rebelling against...and those people shell out many multiples of what they are worth just to be cool, not realizing that it is a culture opposed to theirs. Pathetic.
Quoted from Daditude:Worth is very internal, but that's where the comparison ends.
The theme is the brand (supreme) itself. It is certainly rare, but that doesn't impart value in and of itself, as I pointed out in an earlier post.
Coke products, for the most part, cost a VERY small fraction if what this went for. It's hard to compare a $3 glass to a $39,000 (plus premium) pinball.
Ford and GM fans are getting a vehicle...something that actually serves a purpose and can be used extensively by virtually anyone. (This is called intrinsic value). Same thing with barley.
This is a case of simply paying for a name. Truly nothing else.
You can get better pinballs. You can get newer pinballs. You can get rarer pins, pins with more universally appealing themes, more complex pins, better light shows, tons more toys/gimmicks...heck...it is a remake! You can get THE SAME pinball.
What this boils down to is a brand. A counterculture skateboard brand that convinced locals if it's coolness. It eventually grew and spread. They create a demand by having celebs wear their items and selling them in "limited quantities" as a means to artificially inflate the prices.
Is their marketing better than most? Sure. But in the end, that's literally all you pay for. Marketing. It is marketed to idiots with too much money and no sense.
A better comparison would be Gucci. They built their product name so well, that at one point they were intentionally selling the tackiest possible clothing and slapping their "brand" (the Gucci name) on it to sell it for far more than what is was worth. (I.e. a $20 handbag selling for $600 because it had a Gucci tag)
What's really amusing is the fact that Supreme sold these pins (and their clothes, for that matter) to the very people they are rebelling against...and those people shell out many multiples of what they are worth just to be cool, not realizing that it is a culture opposed to theirs. Pathetic.
We get it, you hate Supreme and only douchenozzles like it. You are a sucker for buying marketing. Blah, blah, blah. Guess what, there are tons of things that fit into this category. Diamonds for millennium have been virtually worthless until the diamond industry was created and said that not only should you give a diamond as a show of love, but it should be worth x amount of your salary. Diamonds for industrial purposes are cheap, but cut it and polish it, and you can sell it for way more as a show of love. Gold, silver, platinum, rubies, all fit into this category. Hell, why would somebody pay 5-6x for sliced pickles when you can get a whole one cheaper? Let's not even get into organic and artesianal foods...
Marketing happens everywhere and we all fall for it. To say otherwise is foolish.
Note: I am not a Supreme fan and would never pay that much for something. However, to each their own.
Oreo and Supreme are now teaming up...
https://people.com/food/oreo-supreme-red-cookies-release/
Screenshot_20200218-210024_Chrome.jpgQuoted from AFM95:Oreo
For whatever reason I never cared much for them. I always liked Choc-o-lunch from Lance a lot better.
Quoted from JohnnyPinball007:For whatever reason I never cared much for them. I always liked Choc-o-lunch from Lance a lot better.
My parents would only buy Hydrox back in the day. They played it off as if they were the same as Oreo to save money.
Hydrox, lol.
Think that's bad, mom used to buy Dutch Pride imitation ice milk and pass it off as real ice cream.
Quoted from LTG:I hate tuna. My Mother was always trying to pass it off as chicken.
LTG : )
She obviously didn't present it right.
71d0WDIFL8L._SL1317_ (resized).jpgQuoted from AFM95:Oreo and Supreme are now teaming up...
https://people.com/food/oreo-supreme-red-cookies-release/[quoted image]
A box of those would make a good topper.
Quoted from LTG:I hate tuna. My Mother was always trying to pass it off as chicken.
LTG : )
Well the tag line is indeed "Chicken of the Sea"... So on some level she wasn't fibbing to you
Quoted from Manic:So on some level she wasn't fibbing to you
Kind of.
I'll never understand it though. My Mother was pretty good about leaving me eat what I want and avoiding what I didn't want. But she was determined my disdain for tuna was in my head and she could trick me into eating it and from then on I'd like it.
Never happened.
LTG : )
Quoted from LTG:Kind of.
I'll never understand it though. My Mother was pretty good about leaving me eat what I want and avoiding what I didn't want. But she was determined my disdain for tuna was in my head and she could trick me into eating it and from then on I'd like it.
Never happened.
LTG : )
So on April 1st, you may or may not get an unsolicited GrubHub delivery from Crossroads Delicatessen, for a "chicken" sandwich and sweet-tater fries.
Make sure not to ask questions and just eat the sandwich because hey, free sandwich.
Quoted from o-din:Shit just got real.[quoted image]
ha. I’ll bid $1 million when it comes up in auction.
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