As long as the playfield quality is good.
Quoted from usandthem:
Don't squash the dream already, for crying out loud! Haha. But you're probably right. Don't forget the Eleven bash toy and no upside down for the pro edition.
I heard only one ramp, pops, a VUK, one spinner, a demogorgon on a spring, and the premium/le with a small lower playfield
Quoted from chuckwurt:
I’m so obsessed with this theme I know it won’t have everything I want in it. I just hope the code keeps me interested for the long haul. That’s kind of a tall order for me, but one can dream.
Oh and did I mention I need this to have a third flipper? Haha
I’m getting a pro ASAP.
I have to wonder how many bought a nib game this month or recently and now will regret it when this pin comes out. That’s if it’s as good as it sounds.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
Well, here we go again with the playfield lottery. This is from a new JP with 15 plays...with the updated artwork that has no artwork around posts. Reports of this issue still occuring, and Stern sending out less populated playfields, makes me nervous to preorder a Stranger Things LE.
I Love Stern.
Quoted from PanzerFreak:
Lol, I just don't like people making up lies about things I've posted to the point of harassment. It's not cool.
As I said I did email two distributors today about getting on a list for a Stranger Things LE. Everything I've read about Stranger Things in the TWIP article sounds exciting and like the type of game I gravitate to. I know Who-Dey will say I'm a JJP fanboy but there's reason I haven't purchased a Wonka after purchasing all prior JJP pins. I don't think there's a lot toy wise on the game, I'm not a fan of the way the assets have been used, and I don't like that JJP has continued to release updates for the game while Pirates remains on .99 code after 2 years.
Stern has stepped it up with several of their games, most recently Jurassic Park. I was ready to place an order for a JP premium after playing one on location but now want to wait and see how Stranger Things turns out. I also like how Stern has lowered their most recent LE counts. 500 is still high but better then 750, or JJP's insane LE counts. Some sense of rarity is still retained at 500 games.
It’s all good. Most of us may have issues with people on here from time to time, but in the end if you met them in person it’s a different story. Who-Dey is the first person I ever talked to on pinside. I have his cell if you want to prank him. Lol
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:
Nobody concerned with the clearcoat issues? I thought there was still some problematic playfields popping up.
Also, aren’t recent customers with bad playfields having to fight to get an unpopulated playfield? Other customers report being ghosted with regards to their playfield warranty requests?
I am. Waiting for others to buy and test out the QC.
Quoted from Dkjimbo:
So what is the fallout from the leak of that video? Clearly Stern wasn’t happy about the leak and requested it get shut down on YouTube (which it has). How did the actual release video get leaked to begin with? Yes we all know Chris posted it first but how did he get his hands on it? That wasn’t the usual shitty grainy cell phone captures from the webinar it was the legit teaser video. How much hell broke loose at stern marketing department?
I bet they are angry.
Man they deleted the 11 ball lock magnet on pro at rear. 40 dollars it cost. Come on.
Meh. If the 35 dollar telekinesis magnet was on the pro I would have ordered. Now I don’t feel the premium is worth my shekels. I can see a code update with more sounds, video, voices helping the pro.
Quoted from JodyG:
I am starting to think that the cost of past QC fumbles is starting to make an impact on BOM for new releases. Gotta keep those investors happy!
JodyG that’s all it is. Sadly. The last few years probably made the investors smile, so they say let’s aim higher meaning less BOM and game for consumer.
Quoted from Rarehero:
We absolutely can. We can see the art, see the features, see the layout, watch streams, hear the sounds. We know whether this pleases our eyes and ears. Many of us have played enough games to get a solid take on what any new game is about at launch. Our opinion may change once played, but impressions upon reveal are not to be discounted entirely.
Almost all the games I’ve bought/sold over the years were from watching YouTube gameplay videos. I know after a few minutes if it will be a game I entertain owning. You don’t have to play it first to know.
Quoted from kpg:
Quite sad there's only two features over the Pro, yet there's a $2K difference at least, $3000ish if an LE- and one of those is the main feature - a projector - that cost maybe $30 tops, and people are already suggesting to upgrade the upgrade
Gotta laugh at this one.
I canceled mine last week. Get a pro if the code gets good other than that enjoy the cratering.
Quoted from JodyG:
Oh I agree...i've been patiently waiting for a JP2 Pro to show up used in my area for a decent price. I'd even consider one with bad clear that came with an unpopulated PF if the price was right. I just am not sure I want to play that NIB lottery myself. But from the past posts from Multiballmaniac1, I was highly doubtful he actually had an LE on order.
You got me. Lol
Quoted from Who-Dey:
He is somewhat of a jokester and i dont know if he really had an LE ordered or not, but what i do know is he has money to put on a new game and he is afraid to buy a NIB Stern right now because of their playfield quality. I cant say that i blame him and i am in the same boat as he is. He and i both want a JP2 real bad but thats not going to happen unless things change with the quality of these playfields.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Yeah ole multiballmaniac been "buying" stern LEs just to cancel them for about two years now. He's one of the weirdest pinsiders and that's saying something.
Remember his hourly Deeproot thread bumps?
I'd like to announce that I'm so impressed with Stranger Things LE I'm placing 15 orders so I can have one in every room in every family members' home on the east coast. These proclamations are official, right?
Oy vey, I just cancelled my tmnt le.
Quoted from iceman44:
Sit back, relax, pop a top and let it all sink in while i Take a nap before my game arrives.
Same ole same ole.
By the same couple dozen or so people.
That includes K man who is all Stern hate 24/7 because they shun him.
Pinball Life is good!!
2020 will be the best year in pinball releases.
Quoted from Extraballz:
TZ was not counter to that goal. It sold well. Pinball was losing its customers to video games. That simple. Bad timing.
I hope all this cover you run for Stern is really worth the pat on the back selfie with Gary and Stern coffee mug you get at the next show.
If the smaller companies start making better machines and taking enough customers away Stern will have no choice but to do better. And spendIng a bit more on BOM will not put them out of business. Stop that nonsense.
Shhhhh. I think Levi is finally sleeping right now. Don’t wake him up.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:
Look I'm the expert on carguments. I INVENTED the term for Christ's sake!
But the toastergument is more apt, as the very first toasters were in fact commercial devices, whilst cars have always been available and marketed to the general public!
I take it this started it.
Quoted from kpg:
The way I read this is that many people use that as a saying without any negative intention. Same way people say "Jesus Christ!' when certain things happen.
I think many of us Christian's need to relax and stop being so sensitive. Makes us look bad.
I get ya. Enjoy your day.
Quoted from pinballkyle:
Most people don’t know the amount of work route ops have to do on new sterns when they arrive, before putting them out. Firstly we need to throw out the buttons and defective coil stops.
For the JP, I probably spent 6 hours on it stripping the game, going over every post, as most were so loose they would fall out or cause major damage to the PF with eventual chipping. Then I had to add a post and nut and reposition the flipper bracket and also remove the left gate that breaks on all location machines.
I never used to have to do this on older sterns like TWD, ST. Clear coats were much harder, posts were tight, coil stops weren’t defective, things seemed much less rushed and quality was better.
The QC is really starting to show. I have three older sterns that are rock solid. Make Stern Great Again
Quoted from Gotman:
First update after purchase, Jan. 13 build date. Received it two days later. I feel bad for my other four pins as they get little to no love. Game play is addictive. However, you’ve gotta be a little bit of a pinball mechanic to own this one. For example, had Demo out four times. Took ramps off to work on raising, but the trick was replacing 1/4” spacers under Demo with a small washer to lower him. Still a tough shot, but makable. Waiting for new ramp from Stern. Sound is very cool scary and a sub and shaker are a must have. I had to get over the bias against plastic ramps and in lanes because it limits potential enjoyment options, I.e., less pins to choose from. I could not be happier with the smoothness of these plastic lanes. Btw: I have a metal ramp and wire forms from LOTR getting brass plating work done as they don’t last either. (Notice to other folks posting their ratings: these are commercial machines. Operators know how to make these complex machines work better. Don’t shit on these fantastic cutting edge products because you are incompetent either mechanically or electronically as they were not intended for home use. Plus they are not museum pieces, enjoy the patina a metal ball makes on a wood surface. Patina is good, it shows you lived a little.)
Great selling point. You have to be a little bit of a mechanic to own game. Adjust Demogorgon, remove ramps, wait for a new ramp...
Stern dissatisfaction is high right now among many. I know at least 4 people who always bought the newest games that no longer will.
I like plastic ramps too. No issues in my opinion
Stern is not killing anything but possible repeat customers.
Quoted from Bzamborski:
Just got my LE from Gotpinball. (Andrew is a great guy by the way). Great machine. Paired with my guardians I feel like I have a great duo! Looking forward to what the code updates on Stranger Things add.[quoted image]
Looks like you’ll be neglecting other things for awhile. Have fun. How’s the demo shot?
Quoted from ZMeny:
Stern Pinball Stranger Things UV Lighting Kit
- Custom interactive code will activate lighting during dramatic events and experiences throughout game play, immersing players into the Stranger Things universe
- Available in Pro Version (item # 502-7118-Q1) and Premium/LE Version (item # 502-7118-Q2)
Kit contains: New bottom arch w/LEDs installed, 8 new butyrates/plastics w/UV reactive ink, ramp LED boards mounted on install brackets, and fasteners
Pricing: $279 (Purchase directly from Stern Pinball shop.sternpinball.com or from your authorized dealer/distributor)
***Picture shown below is the Pro Version Kit with plastic arch. The Prem/LE Kit includes a powdercoated steel arch
Watch them not work right.
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