This could very well be my next NIB if it’s my kind of layout and code.
I sure hope so! I originally thought a black hole or haunted house like lower playfield but that sacrifices too much of the main level of the game.
I say get VERY creative with artwork and lighting and diverters to create the upside down. Transform the entire game when you’re in it.
The more I think about it, the more I don’t want a lower playfield. Even if they did it like Krull (which they won’t).
When has a game used artwork and crazy lighting to transform the game? I don’t think it ever has been done.
A shadow esque magnet would be cool to accent some shots in the back of the playfield.
Hard to keep it up when they set the bar so high. I’ve loved this show for all three seasons.
I like the idea of using the assets around the games story, but have the game tell it’s own story. Don’t try and follow the seasons. Use some iconic music and lines for callouts but have the game do it’s own thing.
Would be cool to have kids get lost in the upside down if you’re playing poorly or fail modes and then you have to rescue them in various ways. Each party member has an ability that as long as they are not stuck in the upside down, you benefit from their ability.
Lots of ways to go with it. Excited to see it.
Quoted from usandthem:
Pinball manufacturers love you guys with your plastic/metal ramp (or similar) arguments. You give $100's to $1000's of additional value to things that are 1/10 or less of that to manufacture.
What are you most excited about related to a potential Stranger Things game?
Player controlled magna slings bad. Player controlled magnets like on Oktoberfest good. Haha
If the upper playfield is a quick couple of shots and doesn’t stay there long, that’s cool. But please nothing like black knight. Makes the game take forever.
I just hope Eddy is closer to shadows layout than MMs or AFMs. Can’t wait to see this thing!
Yeah if they take a similar approach to ST that they did with JP I won’t be mad about it. Just be true to the series. Would be cool if they did lots of custom animations. Maybe have some of the important songs from the seasons. They seemed to get songs for guardians pretty easily. Would be nice to have some of those in here too.
Can’t wait to see how they simulate the upside down.
An interactive demogorgon would be sweet too and I’m not a bash toy fan at all.
Quoted from pinballwil:
hope Stern not cut the bom.
Stern will always do this. Just how they do business. Designer tries to put all they can in it, then they cut stuff back until it meets the BOM stern sets. Best to accept it and move on.
If it’s more of a fan layout, I’d love for ramp diverters again. Those are so cool. Bring back the shadow lock magnet too. Blew my mind the first time I saw it.
The number one thing id love to see but doubt they do, is somehow have the artwork morph with the lightning when you are in the upside down. Not even sure that would be possible.
Show us already!! Haha
Possibly took a buyer or two away from stern but remember, everyone that got a Rick and Morty locked in yesterday only paid 1525 max. Most in this hobby can then turn around and get a stern the next day no problem.
Not too worried about the art. It’s super low on my priority list, and I can see the license dictating that big time.
Just give me that third flipper and I’ll be very excited right away. Haha
My problem is I love all eras. I don’t have enough room to be into everything. Haha.
Quoted from tjc02002:
Just curious what kind of information leads you to believe Stern sells 10,000 games per year. I have no idea and im not questioning it, im just curious how you arrive at that number. that would mean they pump out almost 30 per day which is impressive and I know their facility is impressive.
When I took a tour they said they make 50 a day on average but we’re running some days in 2019 at 75 plus a day. They have capacity for over 100 a day. 10k machines might be on the lower end. Not sure.
Quoted from nogoodnames222:
I've been out of the loop due to, uhh, other game announcements. But is ST actually confirmed (or "confirmed" in any kind of way past speculation), and is Brian Eddy gonna be on it? Really excited for this one. If there really is a webinar tomorrow it looks like I'm tuning back in at the right time.
Rest of the details are unknown. Should be on location by Xmas eve.
I’m so obsessed with this theme I know it won’t have everything I want in it. I just hope the code keeps me interested for the long haul. That’s kind of a tall order for me, but one can dream.
Oh and did I mention I need this to have a third flipper? Haha
Quoted from HookedonPinonics:
To be honest all I want for music is the original Stranger Things music that Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein did for the show. Every single one of their tracks is awesome. I don't care for the licensed music like "should I stay or should I go" or "time after time". I have heard enough of that stuff. Give me the synth stuff that those guys did for the show. For those not familiar go on Spotify and look up Stranger Things Volume 1. Notable tracks of what I want
Stranger Things Main Theme
The Upside Down
This is the ambiance I want when I play this game. Not sure why people want licensed music that we have heard a million times already.
All is want is this.
Season 4 already confirmed and that may be the final one. Whatever they decide it will go as long as they want it to. Show is amazing. All three seasons.
Quoted from Goronic:
I hope you are wrong - but I think you are probably right.
Stern and theme integration using assets hasn't been all that great in my opinion...
Has anyone ever seen a game with amazing theme and asset integration from a big time license?
Hobbit is the only game I’ve seen that is really well done in that department. LOTR might be the best one before that.
So that’s why I’m totally fine with the JP approach and if they continued to advance their games in that direction.
What’s the last game to have 4 ramps?
So Jurassic park has 4, so before that?
Demoman count if you use the center acmag ramp.
Fastbreak has four if you count the left orbit ramp.
Quoted from Yoko2una:
Kind of a tough question because what defines a full ramp? I think of TSPP and it has the right ramp, treehouse ramp, couch ramp, and monorail “ramp”. Then I think of all the Sterns with the crossover ramp. How many does WH2O technically have? RBION? HRC? Do shooter lane ramps count? Jump ramps? Once you define what a ramp is or isn’t, does JP2 still have 4 ramps?
Wow. Haha. JP2 definitely four ramps. Have to shoot it from the flippers and it has to go from one portion of the playfield to the other. ACDC and Simpson crossing rail doesn’t count. Diverters don’t make one ramp two, etc.
WH20 has 4. 2 lower of and two upper playfield.
Quoted from Rockytop:
Am I the only own waiting on a spicy chicken sandwich because Stern's stopped making them to focus on buying all the pizza in Benton?
No kidding. Totaly unfair that stern swooped in and started serving deep dish pizza to Benton residents right after they had lunch with spooky.
No. WH20 whirlpool is debatable. I can see it either way.
Here’s a fun one. Without looking it up. How many ramps does WOZ have?
Here’s another question. If the game does indeed have 4 ramps, is it possible for it to only use 2 flippers?
If so, it will be the fanniest fan layout ever I guess.
Quoted from bgwilly31:
BTW i had a thought. If they use lighting to represent the upside down.
You know those holiday spot lights that project spots in different shapes all over your house.
What if they had something like that in the game to represent the "Ash" Thats always falling in the upside down across the playfield. That would be cool. Kind of like the disco ball in deadpool.
I was thinking the same thing. Good call.
If she’s overacting so is Hopper and I’m not about to say that so I think she’s fine.
ive been around here long enough to know that people are way too negative. Just wait to see it first then starting shitting on it. That’s all I ask.
Quoted from TheLaw:
Well as Kramer would say there are levels.
You know a lot of people here start having their fantasies aboot what a game will have early, and then get all butt hurt when the game doesn't live up to their weirdo ideas.
I’m 100% positive this won’t live up to my expectations. Doesn’t make me any less excited and won’t make me want to play it any less. Pinball is ALWAYS fun. Don’t like a game? Move on. Like a game? Enjoy it.
I just like that they are trying new things. Whether this works or not, super basic or not, it’s awesome they are doing stuff like this.
The term you’re looking for is Kinetic Satisfaction. Another thing Elwin is a genius at.
Quoted from usandthem:
Yes, and if I recall (haven't seen season 1 since it came out), wasn't there a monster behind the wall at the Byers house?
Yes. In the upside down will was staying by his house and from time to time he would be able to see his mom through a gate that would open in the wall of their living room. And the demogorgon was able to get into their house that way too.
One thing they don’t explain too well in the show is how other gates open up besides the main one at the lab. Seems random.
Quoted from docquest:
For pro, does it still have the side walls along the center screen? They don't seem to move on the Prem/LE, just more space to project on so not sure why you'd want them on pro.
They appear to be there on the pro. The picture of the lab would look weird if they weren’t and also it would be easier to do that for stern as it’s the exact same mech. Just put art on one and leave it white on the other.
I know stern tests the hell out of their major mechs. Like when I was in there this year, they said they’ve been running the dragon from GOT non stop 24/7 since the game came out and it just died this summer. Haha.
I bet they have this projector setup and running constantly to get an idea of life span.
Don’t worry when it comes out I’ll be hanging out in the club thread and let the bashing take over here. Haha.
But yeah, I’m pumped.
Quoted from NoQuarters:
Excellent. Thanks for answering questions. I don't know squat about Stranger Things. Never seen it so I guess that's why I am really out of the loop on this on this game and what it's all about.
Well I think just like Rick and Morty this will only get more people to watch the show. It’s not like GOT where it’s a major commitment. You can binge all three seasons in a weekend.
Quoted from usandthem:
What's all of this talk about just pros being on location? I must be lucky because the the locations that I go to always has the new premiums or LE's. Pinball Pete's in Ann Arbor always has the newest game in LE form, which is just awesome. Marvin's in Farmington Hills has a mix of LE's, premiums, and pros.
This is not common at all. Haha
Very interested to see the rule structure. I see some definite Brian eddy things in there like 5 way combo and the 5-6 tasks you’ll need to obtain to get to the final mode.
Demogorgon seems to have a setup like the castle and ship on Mm and AFM.
Only thing is the massive mode count. Very interested to see how those play into all this.
Quoted from jonesjb:
There are differences. Using gouache, oil, pen and ink, or pencil looks different than refactoring assets in digital software programs using a tablet.
I take hand drawn as being drawn with your hands. I could be wrong though. Never known a playfield to have art hand painted on it either.
Quoted from jonesjb:
I agree. I wonder if using a mouse (by hand) in Microsoft Paint could technically be considered hand drawn art too?
I assume all these guys are doing what ZY does. Using some sort of software/stylus. But again it doesn’t matter. All that matters is if you like the end product. Some will some won’t
Just noticed in the video the projector project the current mode timer on the stand ups. Genius. So many possibilities with this tech.
At BLINK in Cincinnati they use this tech too on the buildings and sync music to it. Looked awesome.
Quoted from rai:
makes sense. Don't get me wrong but the prices are going up and when RaM would cost almost the same as AFM LE (with shipping, shaker, etc.) have to wonder where things are headed until we accept $6K as the cheapest pin. Least Stern is putting service rails in the pro now. I wonder if the pro will have the projector but not the magnet wall. I could not imagine this pin without the projector.
The pro has no projector.
Quoted from DugFreez:
How about target drifting? I can see that possibly being an issue. Have any recent Sterns had this issue or have they been using a better design / mounting system so this doesn't occur? It seems that can be seen a bit in some of the screen shots. Lining up one tiny projector to land perfectly across that big of an area on so many different things seems like it might be a hard task.....even if all of the projection areas are staying in place and not drifting in different directions.
Pinball life has brackets that eliminate the spot target shifting.
Quoted from Rockytop:
seems a little strange if you knock down the drops, then just shoot it up in there to a saucer...that seems really easy. If you have to do that multiple times to qualify the battle then it just seems slow or clunky to have it go in there to dribble back out again and again.
You’re a good guesser! Haha