I don't think ST will do that well on location it's not as a big brand as some might think.

Stern don't give two hoots about what other manufacturers are doing and quite rightly so, R&M will have almost zero effect on ST (or whatever the Stern game is). GNR is a TPF game.

Game will be publically announced probably 8th of Jan maybe a little bit earlier which is when they announce munster last year, but maybe next week and then it will be at CES for sure.

I can't imagine the pro not having the projector - it would be like MMR-CE not having the castle! Why do we think the pro doesn't have it?

lack of round speakers mean its not an LE for sure

we can bet that there is a price hike on this for sure.

the LE looks stunning
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isn't it meant to be like that?

welcome to three hours ago

Brian Eddy
Lonnie Ropp

with you dood, I'm in on R&M BS and NST LE but the purple on the R&M is terrible.

Dood, relax, life is good. I got a JP2 LE with the new playfield and is a beautiful thing! I'm in on an LE. Reach for your phone, call your distributor, place an order, sit back with a nice glass of wine, some lovely cheese and enjoy the rays whilst the heroic people at Stern bring you a big fucking beautiful Stranger Things Pro.

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hell yes!

schnell!

can't understand the hate for this game. It has lots of shots, some challenging, it has a ruleset that looks like is quite deep. So the theme isn't perfect but it never is - most folks haven't played it?

Nobody can possibly critique it until they've played the game.

start the saucer mode before starting multi ball...

yeah but everyone was doing a love dance for munsters this time last year and that +is+ a turd.

Anyone who said that game was shite got shot down (I was one of the first to play it) and when I reported it was a turd and canceled my LE and was then shot down.

This game seems the opposite, everyone is binning it and it actually looks like excellent to me. I don't care for the theme on either of those games I just want a game that's fun to shoot and has me going back for more.

TWD - I used to leave work sharp so I could get home and play it, eventually bought a Pro for the office. IMDN, have LE at home and bought a premium for our club, just want to play and play...

Ok, nobody can give at least me a critique that I'll pay any attention of I guess its like cars for me, what it looks like on the outside isn't as important as the smile factor I get when I drive.

Play the game then make your mind up. I used to avoid 80's games like the plague as they all looked boring, playing at Pinburgh meant I didn't have a choice and I'm so glad as I love them and I've bought loads of them.

My only concern about this game was Lonnie on code but again I'll wait until I play it before I say its good or bad.

Cheers,
Neil.

not really lol - 1.3m is the average viewing rate across the show; which in the UK is ok but not great.

Star Trek Discovery is much bigger (and biggest streaming show in the UK).

Neil.

nah it hasn't, in the UK according to survey its stayed about the same; Netflix doesn't release UK data unfortunately.

Its ok but not great.

but what do I know

not sure where you are getting your figures from, but we get ratings for programmes at the TV company that I work for. Streaming programmes are hard when the broadcaster doesn't release them but we can infer based on survey and internal data, hopefully netflix (and others) release the data. My personal view based on that is that it's ok but not great. In the US it's huge no question.

Neil.

oh and INDISC was excellent but very hard!

I don’t think the guardian counts as “mainstream press” dood. But keep your anecdotes

So today I got to see and play the premium.

All this noise about the projector is total nonsense. Even in a very_ well lit room at EAG the projection was great. Darker yes it’s better but I can’t imagine any of us playing near the sun and even then...

The projector content is super cool. Different symbols appear on the switches; countdowns drive different points and the backbox is lit up by the projector in a cool way. I was in two minds to change my LE order to an Elvira but I’m sticking with it. I was also able to hit the gorgon shot several times.

Neil.

From what I saw that is the direction as well as giving you messages about what to shoot and when. Having seen it in person now I really think the concept has a lot of things you can do with it.

No; I’m describing what I saw with my own eyes_ versus a poorly set up camera (with a CCD that does alsorts of shit with an image and a backlight on the camera that was washing everything out and casting artefacts all over the place ).

No, I didn’t record it - but I was in a conference centre meeting room with the full lights on and it was fine, turn the lights down or off and yes it’s better.

I think its possible to capture it with the right equipment. Have you ever been to CES or any big show? Clowns all over the place with huge camera gimbals and back LED lights that can be seen from the ISS.

I’m a tech snob, Part of my job is running a set of TV channels, I was first in the world to broadcast soccer at 4K, I received an Emmy for technical innovation - so I’m pretty confident that the vast majority will be ok with the projector - I wasn’t able to find out details of what type it is and I know some people see rainbows in some projector types but in my view it’s perfectly fine and the way it works with the game is freaking outstanding!

I agree I have concerns with code but that applies to all the manufacturers...

I don't think I told anyone to get the LE/Premium but fair cop to having seen something that looked amazing before the code was complete and thinking it would be great. I think its fair that rather than do a whysnow on it I came clean after playing it for 8 hours and stating it was a turd and I was an idiot for deciding before I played the game.

Neil.

Lyman - come on man , you are young! because if you aren't then I'm not and I refuse to be old

Hopefully see you in Texas or NYCPC.

Neil.
(PS Chuck/Erik is a top guy and I'm sure wasn't having a dig at you in fact his ranting on about how good TWD made me buy one!).

anyone got any news on LE build time? I've actually managed to move on a game so now have a space in the shed, the annoying thing is that the machine was hiding load of stuff underneath and it now looks ugly

glad none of you lot are doctors. (or at least not a doctor I'll ever have an exam with )))

“Profit is profit” FRoA #202 and if stern can make profit then crack on! I predict nearly all games will have this accessory added!

No I’m not apologising for it, in my view they have nothing to apologise for.

Now if it was some new mech for the game that changed the game play I’d feel very_ different about it. But this is a fancy light nothing more or less.

Neil.

WoZ lightboards! We are charging you for lights that we cocked up in the first place!

I can't believe people are saying. "Stern knew about this" like anyone has to be freaking convinced about that.

how can't they use it? the ball rolls the same...

Levi has won the Internet LOL

ever or just today? forget that its the same number

why? The gameplay hasn't changed. Frankly that's what I care about the most!

I'm posting on pinside afterall

I'm not trying to change anyones mind. I'm trying to understand how the game has changed.

then I don't know why anyone is so excited/anti-excited about a LED upgrade. The game plays the same! But we got new code that actually improves the game!

LOL the Bricks thread - yeah the level of BS in that thread is nuts.

man we don't need more pinstadium adverts please!

yeah so what? it wasn't, annoying that it isn't but that's how it is, stern got this wrong and have improved it but still not good I agree but they get the code out eventually.

Spooky is niche; stern sells more games in one title than they've shipped in total; not everyone is happy with Spooky titles and they aren't all perfect, our Alice Cooper is more unreliable than my 1980's nine ball.

They just seem to be given a pass because they are new and small; others like them got the same treatment but less successful (look at dutch pinball; If I had skin in that game they'd have been declared bankrupt and had all their assets seized by now but those involved are like they've done nothing wrong despite being ripped off for thousands of pounds ) Look at JJP, shipping the most expensive "high quality" games with playfields that shocking.

how have stern screwed anyone? Nobody bought this game without seeing it. Nobody has to buy the kit. What if they had never_ came out with the kit? This is something that they have added. I'm struggling with this. The game plays the same!

it looks very good and glad to have on on order but how could they dare ship a game with still build issues, bugs in code and the code not finished?!*

* that was irony

Neil.

I agree, stern on marketing and game release they totally have dropped the ball on that. When was the last Stern announcement a surprise to anyone? Yet spooky sneak out R&M with nobody expecting it.

"Stranger things" by "Brian eddy" for some a huge tv show and a huge pinball designer - expectations have been bubbling for months... and every knew for like almost a year. Everyone expected a game changer and whilst ST is good in my view it's not a game changer.

however, nobody, but nobody has to buy anything from Stern they don't like, if you are uncertain of the future of a game from them, wait until it's finished. Personally I've never felt let down by them, maybe they took too long on some stuff (GB). but TWD, B66, IMDN, DP, BKSOR, Star Trek, JP2 are fucking epic games in my view.

wow - I have to admit to not thinking that deep about my hobby!

they've had the game with distributers a few times before launch and nearly all of them the day after launch. Having bought games from all the manufacturers; none of them have ever launched a game without issues, and those around in the WMS days say the same about them.

less worried about skin issues, but black light and your eyesight is something to be careful about.