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Stern Stranger Things


By pinmister

9 months ago



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“Are you interested in a Stern Stranger Things pinball machine?”

  • Yes, I am interested if it plays well and has polished code 481 votes
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  • No, I am not interested 439 votes
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  • Maybe, not a huge fan of the franchise but maybe if it plays well 100 votes
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  • I like pizza 200 votes
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#3951 8 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Please dude just stop!! This is a Stranger Things pinball thread, not the Stern playfields suck thread.

Come on man! I want to hear how clear prevents dimpling!!

#3952 8 months ago
Quoted from Yelobird:

Come on man! I want to hear how clear prevents dimpling!!

Lol- The clear coat on our cars paint jobs is to prevent door dings, right ?

#3953 8 months ago
Quoted from vireland:

Pretty sure the lack of stainless protector at the entrance of the ramps means it's behind the plastic, but that just made me realize that those unprotected ramps are going to be DESTROYED from ball impacts at the ramp entrance in short order.

Looks like something is there? Looks metal in one pic and plastic in another? 20200106_031043 (resized).jpg20200106_031012 (resized).jpg

#3954 8 months ago
Quoted from bigd1979:

Looks like something is there? Looks metal in one pic and plastic in another? [quoted image][quoted image]

Yeah, hard to tell. But if it's a thin metal protector and the white sticker goes over it, that's still bad (ball wear through the sticker) but a lot better and cheaper to replace than a destroyed ramp.

#3955 8 months ago
Quoted from kpg:

Lol- The clear coat on our cars paint jobs is to prevent door dings, right ?

Yes it does. I took a hammer to my car the other day and it didn't even put a mark on it.

#3956 8 months ago

The projector is such a cool idea and I think it will look awesome with tons of amazing mode variables.
My only concern is ball marks and lines on those perfect white backings, I just can't see how they expect it to hold up ?

#3957 8 months ago
Quoted from Who-Dey:

Yes it does. I took a hammer to my car the other day and it didn't even put a mark on it.

You were drunk and that wasn‘t your car.

#3958 8 months ago

Im way behind on the thread.....will we see some footage of the premium today?

#3959 8 months ago
Quoted from Stones:

Im way behind on the thread.....will we see some footage of the premium today?

Propably not official.

CES opens (for the public) tomorrow.

It‘d be better to show the game in a semi controlled environment then to let others do it under the bright CES lighting.
So... maybe we get something tomorrow?

#3960 8 months ago
Quoted from Stones:

Im way behind on the thread.....will we see some footage of the premium today?

I hope so but as others have said, its probably going to look a lot better in person than it does on camera. Im not gonna freak out if the camera doesn't display the projector well.

#3961 8 months ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

You were drunk and that wasn‘t your car.

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#3962 8 months ago
Quoted from donkadelic:

the clear doesn't dimple on the inserts because the inserts themselves cant dimple. the clear is supposed to prevent the wood from dimpling, and it's not. we're not saying the clear itself is dimpling, just that proper clear prevents the wood from doing so.

FWIW you are really wrong; not trying to be a jerk about it but this has been discussed a million times; a steel ball will win against clear and against wood. It is just a matter how much crappy wood will compress... some recent playfields look like the moon.

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#3963 8 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

You'd think all these pinheads who demand pics without the glass on market ads would understand that...

Whenever I think I'll never see anything dumber than what I've seen posted here before, some dark horse always comes from the back of the pack to destroy the field.

I'd venture to say no pinball flyer or promo in 50 years has featured a game with the playfield glass installed. That may be the slightest hyperbole, but it would certainly be a statistically irrelevant anomaly. In 15 years selling games semi-professionally, I've taken pictures of hundreds of games, and maybe twice featured playfield shots with the glass installed due to extreme laziness, a temporarily broken lockdown bar lever, or just an old-fashioned hangover. When you are trying to sell a pinball machine, it looks better with the glass off, simple as that.

You'd think with the waves of brilliant and wealthy doctors, lawyers, scientists, and internationally recognized intellectual geniuses who have been signing up for Pinside daily this place would be getting smarter, but it just seems to be the opposite. And it makes baby Jesus cry.

#3964 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Whenever I think I'll never see anything dumber than what I've seen posted here before, some dark horse always comes from the back of the pack to destroy the field.
I'd venture to say no pinball flyer or promo in 50 years has featured a game with the playfield glass installed. In 15 years selling games semi-professionally, I've taken pictures of hundreds of games, and maybe twice featured playfield shots with the glass installed due to extreme laziness, a temporarily broken lockdown bar lever, or just an old-fashioned hangover. When you are trying to sell a pinball machine, it looks better with the glass off, simple as that.
You'd think with the waves of brilliant doctors, lawyers, scientists, and internationally recognized intellectual geniuses who have been signing up for Pinside daily this place would be getting smarter, but it just seems to be the opposite. And it makes baby Jesus cry.
It may be time for a new subforum limited to people who have been around for 5 years or more. It's getting harder and harder to discuss even the basics of pinball in this newbie cesspool.

Amen

#3965 8 months ago
Quoted from RA77:

The projector is such a cool idea and I think it will look awesome with tons of amazing mode variables.
My only concern is ball marks and lines on those perfect white backings, I just can't see how they expect it to hold up ?

You don't see how a bunch of white stickers will hold up? I have games that are 40 years old that have old stickers on drop targets. They are a little dirty. They have faint dirt lines, pretty much at a uniform spot where the ball hits them. They are still fine. If I want new ones, I can spend about 50 cents a sticker and replace them.

I have a hunch this is a non-issue, and Stern will probably include spares of any exposed stickers like they always do, which can safely live in your HUO goodie bag for the next 20 years, providing you with the womb-like, comforting piece of mind that comes with knowing that decades from now when your stickers are in such bad shape that a dirty line is visibly distracting in your projected image, you can refresh them.

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#3966 8 months ago
Quoted from dsmoke1986:

I have 110 games in on my Pro. It’s the way to go IMO

Interesting. How many games do you have on the Premium?

#3967 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

You don't see how a bunch of white stickers will hold up? I have games that are 40 years old that have old stickers on drop targets. They are a little dirty. They have faint dirt lines, pretty much at a uniform spot where the ball hits them. They are still fine. If I want new ones, I can spend about 50 cents a sticker and replace them.
I have a hunch this is a non-issue, and Stern will probably include spares of any exposed stickers like they always do, which can safely live in your HUO goodie bag for the next 20 years, providing you with the womb-like, comforting piece of mind that comes with knowing that decades from now when your stickers are in such bad shape that a dirty line is visibly distracting in your projected image, you can refresh them.

Agree non issue. If they get a little dirty after a butt load of plays wipe clean with Pinguard in 5 seconds. This thread is nearly unbearable.

#3968 8 months ago
Quoted from RA77:

concern is ball marks and lines on those perfect white backings, I just can't see how they expect it to hold up ?

I would probably order a sheet of mylar and cut to size for the ramps to cover over white decals from day one. I do believe a dirty steel ball will begin to tarnish the white reflective tape quickly. We will soon see how quickly they get marked up?

#3969 8 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

I would probably order a sheet of mylar and cut to size for the ramps to cover over white decals from day one. I do believe a dirty steel ball will begin to tarnish the white reflective tape quickly. We will soon see how quickly they get marked up?

Mylar is probably not going to work well though because it will affect the projected images.

#3970 8 months ago
Quoted from f3honda4me:

Mylar is probably not going to work well though because it will affect the projected images.

I have no idea if it would work or not. Seems like it still would work since mylar is clear? It may be a non-issue if Stern sells cheap replacement stickers for owners? I think it will start to look like ass really quick on the ramps with ball trails on a white sticker. It may not bother some people, but some people may not care for the look.

#3971 8 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

I have no idea if it would work or not. Seems like it still would work since mylar is clear? It may be a non-issue if Stern sells cheap replacement stickers for owners? I think it will start to look like ass really quick on the ramps with ball trails on a white sticker. It may not bother some people, but some people may not care for the look.

Mylar is clear; but here is a thought... it probably reflects light differently than a sticker that is designed as a projector screen? Maybe some will not care for that look either...

#3972 8 months ago
Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

Agree non issue. If they get a little dirty after a butt load of plays wipe clean with Pinguard in 5 seconds. This thread is nearly unbearable.

We are talking about WHITE STICKERS. Literally the easiest and cheapest single piece of any pinball machine ever made to reproduce. Probably the easiest and cheapest single thing to reproduce in the history of anything in the known universe that anybody has ever needed to reproduce.

WHY WOULD ANYBODY EVEN RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE?!?!?!?!

I'd wager to bet 95 percent of the people here could "reproduce" these with a white sticker sheet and an exacto knife or pair of scissors while also folding their laundry.

#3973 8 months ago
Quoted from BC_Gambit:

it probably reflects light differently than a sticker that is designed as a projector screen?

I have a feeling that a thin clear piece of plastic will not affect the projector image substantially on the ramps. I believe the ramps just have a simple projected image-arrows pointing upwards. I do not believe the ramps will be used for video or images that would not present well through mylar. Maybe they will not get marked up that bad and you can clean them easily with some magic eraser or something? I just have a feeling that they are going to take a beating and start looking like shit quickly?

#3974 8 months ago

Clear plastic mylar material is shiny. Literally every projector screen in the world is matte finish for a reason. Glossy surfaces will glare and obscure the image. A regular flat white label sticker would be exactly what you want. Someone with a Silhouette Cameo could cut these to exact dimensions on a sheet in about 3 minutes and sell them.

#3975 8 months ago
Quoted from JodyG:

Clear plastic mylar material is shiny. Literally every projector screen in the world is matte finish for a reason. Glossy surfaces will glare and obscure the image. A regular flat white label sticker would be exactly what you want. Someone with a Silhouette Cameo could cut these to exact dimensions on a sheet in about 3 minutes and sell them.

Well, for what Stern is charging these days the white stickers should self-clean at weekly intervals, or perhaps be covered in some sort of formulated space-age polymer which repulses dirt so the ball never leaves a mark. Where's the innovation?!?!?!?!

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#3976 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

WHY WOULD ANYBODY EVEN RAISE THIS AS AN ISSUE?!?!?!?!

Because people who are actually interested in purchasing a NIB pinball machine are concerned about it. Why do you always feel the need to try and belittle people? Does it make you feel good? Sometimes you have some truly insightful post and sometimes you are just an ass hat. Time to get off that high horse and quit calling people newbies all the time. What happened to this place is people like you come on here and proclaim you know it all(self proclaimed know it all). Why cant people express concern with a white sticker on a ramp-C'mon! Sometimes Pinside can be toxic-or a cancer like Steve Ritchie once said. We all have the passion for pinball and we like to have discussions. If you do not wish to take part in these discussions then-bye bye.

#3977 8 months ago
Quoted from JodyG:

Clear plastic mylar material is shiny. Literally every projector screen in the world is matte finish for a reason. Glossy surfaces will glare and obscure the image. A regular flat white label sticker would be exactly what you want. Someone with a Silhouette Cameo could cut these to exact dimensions on a sheet in about 3 minutes and sell them.

This. Just replace or put on new stickers when the time comes. Zero reason to use mylar, and yes mylar is going to affect the projected image differently.

#3978 8 months ago
Quoted from pinmister:

Because people who are actually interested in purchasing a NIB pinball machine are concerned about it.

They are not "concerned about it." They likely aren't considering purchasing the NIB pinball either. Nobody who has any experience buying NIB pinball machines, or any other pinball machine in fact, would seriously raise "white stickers might get dirty" as an issue. People are just doing it to keep up with the joneses when it comes to irrelevant complaints about non-existent "potential issues."

Pinside has simply become a pissing contest to see who can come up with the dumbest possible critique about something that doesn't matter at all, to anybody. It's a contest in which there are no winners. You should be berating them for clogging up your precious thread with nonsense instead of giving me the "why are you so mean?" speech.

#3979 8 months ago

Amazed one can see anything considering CES is lit like the sun...

Then again, so are most Stern games. The example videos of STH Prem have the PF really dark, like "early Spooky" dark, so I wonder if they are deliberately undercranking it to not wash out the projector?

Yes projection mapping is awesome. But when say Magic Kingdom does it its in a controlled dark environment, with minimal light pollution, and they're using INSANE amounts of power.

Need to remember everything on a Stern has to fit within the overhead of that 48v PSU.

#3980 8 months ago

Ok Levi-keep telling the rest of us how it should be

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#3981 8 months ago
Quoted from benheck:

Yes projection mapping is awesome. But when say Magic Kingdom does it its in a controlled dark environment, with minimal light pollution, and they're using INSANE amounts of power.
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Anybody who saw Roger Waters' Wall show 10 years back can attest to how awesome this shit can be. Lots of potential there in pinball if they can get it right.

#3982 8 months ago
Quoted from NorCalRealtor:

Agree non issue. If they get a little dirty after a butt load of plays wipe clean with Pinguard in 5 seconds. This thread is nearly unbearable.

Pinball and OCD go together like bread and butter.

#3983 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Anybody who saw Roger Waters' Wall show 10 years back can attest to how awesome this shit can be. Lots of potential there in pinball if they can get it right.

I can imagine seeing a laser style beam project different colored lines at the different target locations you are supposed to shoot...that could be cool. They would have to project it from an angle that mostly would not be blocked by the ball until the last bit of travel...probably mounted above the apron somehow. A multiball laser show under glass would be killer!

#3984 8 months ago
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#3985 8 months ago
Quoted from benheck:

Amazed one can see anything considering CES is lit like the sun...
Then again, so are most Stern games. The example videos of STH Prem have the PF really dark, like "early Spooky" dark, so I wonder if they are deliberately undercranking it to not wash out the projector?
Yes projection mapping is awesome. But when say Magic Kingdom does it its in a controlled dark environment, with minimal light pollution, and they're using INSANE amounts of power.
Need to remember everything on a Stern has to fit within the overhead of that 48v PSU.

I think people are underestimating how difficult it is going to be to manage he ambient light affect on the screens. Both from the room and the machine itself.

But then again, I’m a snob when it comes to projected image quality. I never want to see the screen, only the image.

As it should be

#3986 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

Whenever I think I'll never see anything dumber than what I've seen posted here before, some dark horse always comes from the back of the pack to destroy the field.
I'd venture to say no pinball flyer or promo in 50 years has featured a game with the playfield glass installed. That may be the slightest hyperbole, but it would certainly be a statistically irrelevant anomaly. In 15 years selling games semi-professionally, I've taken pictures of hundreds of games, and maybe twice featured playfield shots with the glass installed due to extreme laziness, a temporarily broken lockdown bar lever, or just an old-fashioned hangover. When you are trying to sell a pinball machine, it looks better with the glass off, simple as that.
You'd think with the waves of brilliant and wealthy doctors, lawyers, scientists, and internationally recognized intellectual geniuses who have been signing up for Pinside daily this place would be getting smarter, but it just seems to be the opposite. And it makes baby Jesus cry.

So what you are trying to say is you agree with me, pictures without the glass are better.

#3987 8 months ago
Quoted from Zablon:

So what you are trying to say is you agree with me, pictures without the glass are better.

Not trying to say it, it's what I said, literally.

#3988 8 months ago
Quoted from Coz:

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Wishful thinking but hope they stream a prem/le. Probably going to be a pro though.

#3989 8 months ago
Quoted from CrazyLevi:

I'd wager to bet 95 percent of the people here could "reproduce" these

I think you're being a little generous. Are we talking butt tattoo wager?

#3990 8 months ago
Quoted from f3honda4me:

Wishful thinking but hope they stream a prem/le. Probably going to be a pro though.

Ken has a pro in his garage studio, so I assume it will be that........unless Brian Eddy brings a premium or LE with him. Either way, it will be nice to have Brian live and available for questions and comments.

#3991 8 months ago

I’m surprised they didn’t just use a matte ramp with paint on the backside. I would lose the stickers and just paint them. Lots of information on the internet that specific household paints have the exact same reflection, absorption as high end specialty paints and screens. If it gets dirty or chips just apply another coat.

This launch has been a complete shit show. From the leaks to the terrible pictures from CES. Do they even have a marketing department or do they just leave it to the influencers?

#3992 8 months ago
Quoted from Darscot:

Do they even have a marketing department or do they just leave it to the influencers?

Of course they do. Those monthly SOTU fluff pieces can’t type themselves!

#3993 8 months ago

One thing we can all agree on,

Let's just be glad the artwork and backglass looks as good as it is... it could have been worse and Stern could have rehashed some old ACDC artwork to save a few bucks

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#3994 8 months ago
Quoted from BC_Gambit:

FWIW you are really wrong; not trying to be a jerk about it but this has been discussed a million times; a steel ball will win against clear and against wood. It is just a matter how much crappy wood will compress... some recent playfields look like the moon.

it's the clear thats causing it, not the wood. all wood dimples.

#3995 8 months ago
Quoted from kpg:

Lol- The clear coat on our cars paint jobs is to prevent door dings, right ?

if we were talking about cars you might have a point, but we're not.

drop a pinball from 2 inches on your car, does it leave a ding? didn't think so....

#3996 8 months ago
Quoted from kpg:

One thing we can all agree on,
Let's just be glad the artwork and backglass looks as good as it is... it could have been worse and Stern could have rehashed some old ACDC artwork to save a few bucks[quoted image]

Emm, that's why i bought Luci
And actually i think Angus looks better than Sinead O'Connor's baby sister whose just taken a punch on the nose

#3998 8 months ago
Quoted from Yoko2una:

Of course they do. Those monthly SOTU fluff pieces can’t type themselves!

I don’t think a co-op releasing a page or two a month counts

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#3999 8 months ago
Quoted from Sako-TRG:

And actually i think Angus looks better than Sinead O'Connor's baby sister whose just taken a punch on the nose

Never saw the show, but I'm going to assume that's the overused, cliched, "mental brain strain from telekinesis powers"? Cheaper to use fake blood than some cool CGI effect to convey the powers.

#4000 8 months ago
Quoted from benheck:

Amazed one can see anything considering CES is lit like the sun...

It’s hardly lit like the sun... the lighting in the convention center isn’t overbearing by any measure. It’s well lit and cool on the color spectrum, but I’ve never found it to be overly so. That said, Stern really needs a covered area to make the projected image pop. Any sort of external light is going to wash the image... even insert and GI lights are going to ding it.

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