I hope you guys like water, It covers 35% of the playfield. Must be a real turd of a game.

Look, congrats you get to save some money and not buy a new machine. Let me tell you, the one thing more valuable than money is time. Why waste yours on creating weak photoshop collages? Stick to saving money AND time

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Maybe you have broken coilstops? I have had them break on new Sterns after 100 games and cause inaccurate flipper function.

The angle of the playfield won’t affect the launch of the ball off the ramp. The ramp angle and target is consistent with and relative to the playfield so moving the playfield angle (while it may slow the ball) will not change the physical angle of the ramp as it relates to the playfield and the target.

You’ll need a different approach..... pun intended.

Not sure what you're talking about, but I specifically meant the feedback from those who have played it both good and bad.

Free lesson, you shouldn't step unless you're able to back up your criticism. You literally couldn't even figure out how to upload a 72 dpi image.
Clearly being clever isn't your song suit... or art, or technology.

Also why so butt hurt? I'm criticizing the art for good reason with my own professional opinion. I'm a designer and an artist who can see past lazy artwork and graphics. It's always funny to me that wanting something to "be better" is met with this kind of reaction.
Sounds like a lot of inept people I've dealt with in my career, they're impressed by uninspired design and have no creativity themselves which makes them terrible judges at it. If you like garbage that's fine, post about why you want to cream all over it, but be specific or you're just going to make yourself look foolish like you've done here.

Another bonehead move on your "comparison", I didn't mention gameplay.
And for the record I think JP artwork is also lame. Did you like the giant Nedry, and the Tonka truck JP jeep thats altogether wrong?

Enjoy the Panel Vans cgpinhead. May they always haunt you as you play.

Lol.

Pinside always delivers.

One sexy mother-funker!!!

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No.

Kinetic energy in the ball aka speed, therefore it‘s flying angle does change with the steepness of the game.

You wouldn‘t even reach the ramp if you tilt the machine 90 degrees.

It‘s hand drawn, this guy just draws very realistic; have to see it in person.

That not all the compositions are great if you take those individually crafted art assets and put thrm together is a different thing.

It‘s not ideal if you have to make 3 different art packages from the same pictures.
I likes that Zombie Yeti made comepletely unique cabs and notvreassorted the assets like with GotG.

Stern kind of missed a visual feature by not making the speakers on the LE Demigorgon heads coming through the backpanel grills. A little plastic, some printed mesh screen, it could have looked pretty cool.

Sounds like a great mod.

Well since the professional artist says it’s garbage I guess I’m out on this game.

iM A pRuFesSAnAl

you know what? Im with you and ill prolly sell my JPLE now cause i can’t unsee 35% water.

Damnit after 3000 posts I haven't had quite enough people giving me my opinion on this game, am I going to be forced to make my own opinion here or something?! Especially the ones that have never seen or played one in person but are experts on everything about it, those are the ones that really control my thoughts.
Step it up trolls before my game gets here and I might have to actually play a pinball instead of sit on a computer and rant about it.

No unfortunately the sentiment on this game is positive on here so my opinion has been given that it is good.

*quickly checks Dreamcast*

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Is there any chance of Stern getting the season 3 video assets in some future code release? The mall in season was such an incredible setting for 80’s nostalgia.

Just curious if the game is locked in on season 1 and 2 from an assets perspective or if season 3 is coming later.

Stops are good.

Spike 2 is setup to handle stuff like this, but the playfield inserts lead me to believe no season 3. But anything is possible.

Absolutely 0%

Agreed. They have already negotiated the terms of the license agreement and assets they would have access to. It is done.

Heading to my distributor Thursday to play a few games on the pro.

So I played Stranger things late last night and the code is as mature as half the lame narrassitic negative perspectives in this forum but it's fun. Future code will make this game better. Is playfield bare compared to JP2, yes. Do I like JP2 no.The Hawkins lab screen/ramp takes up a lot of eye real estate and you'll have to train yourself to not constantly aim for center to get anywhere in the game. I see where chuck is having difficulty on that machine hitting the open mouth of the demogorgon (as I played that machine) I find aiming toward the open mouth flaps guides the ball in his mouth better than a straight center shot miss. It definitely takes patience but it pays off, too easy gets old and yall hate that it seems. The virtual ball lock is standard up post on left ramp but the multi ball is fun. Couldn't hear much in barcade as volume is always turned down on pins and loud unwanted music in background, what I did hear will get better not a ton of witty comments or commands right now (early code ). A lot of purple lightstheme which I think they missed a huge opportunity here with no RGB GI lighting like star wars. Having better lighting options (not pin stadium) like Christmas lights colored blinking randomly like in the show would have been awesome. Too bad stern rushes it maybe they will make it up on premium projections with future updates. The left orbit to right ramp return shot is satisfying. The shots are not clunky but awkward, I have a BKSOR in which it punishes you for wrong trajectories when flipping it, high risk high reward hence why the love hate relationship w the game and some players. The same can be said for STH, the 4 drop targets dead center and yes I'm talking to you the second drop target to SDTM drain can be infuriating. The left side kickout to center area doesn't work well when the ramp is down too. The right orbit return from the bumpers doesn't line up with the right flipper making it random chaos into the slingshots and send it quickly draining down far left exit lane. The art is good not shopped. A lot of inserts await the code as many side missions with multiple wizards modes to come. Overall its early 1 week to be exact people. This will be around and made better over the next year but .64 code is young and it shows. My advice go out and play it then come back and talk.

Thanks for the write up Mike! I’ll have you and Tess over once my LE arrives if you want to see the other features!

Is it hand drawn illustration like Christopher Franchi creates? Or is it Wacom pen PhotoShop paintover effect like this:

Delt is like me, sells games often unless they are truly exceptional. Nothing wrong with that. I just sold my JP premium, does that mean the game sucks?

And I’m on the fence on selling my JP prem for a STh pro.....JP is great, just a little too difficult for guests and family. Can’t afford 2 right now.

Then I’m not sure why you quoted me in your first post. No one was questioning feedback based upon reviews of people who actually played it.

Re-read what I said. I did mention that the angle will slow the ball down. If you want to truly change the trajectory of the ball (and the launch angle) you will need to extend the hypotenuse of the right triangle that forms the ramp.

I can explain it to you, but I can’t understand it for you.

Have you seen 24? Elvis? Almost every Stern before Metallica? STh is at least painted over...looks like an 80’s poster...decently appealing for the theme. During Stern’s truly “Photoshop era”, they were just flat out dropping photos on the playfield.

You don’t think Franchi is using a Wacom & Photoshop & painting over? Okaaaaaay.

If I remember right his process explained in his pod cast is quite elaborate.
Me, being a peasant, I can only tell you if I like what I see or not but not the reasons and have no idea what could have been done different to get other effects.

Definitely not. It's very likely Franchi uses a Wacom as part of his process, but he is not painting over. As I understand, his art is his creation as an illustrator.

End results is what matter really. Don't care if it's a snapchat filter if it provides the desired result.

I have to admit, the more I look at vids, the more I like it. The key will be the projector. That could be next level. That could be make or break.

Those trying to nail the Demogorgon consistently, you do realize that when you raise the pitch of the Playfield, the toy raises with it, right?

Do you seriously just drop JP2 as an example of good. I love the original but the playfield on it is hideous. Stern kinda following the art style of the original is the worst thing about the new pin. The guy shared an objective opinion and backed up his point with evidence, people need to chill out with the protect the hive bullshit. Stern has gone backwards with the art on this one and it could have been much better. It’s hard to deny it looks a little clown puked.

Don't forget how weird these games will look after Season 4+, new actors, grown up actors, new threats and we're not even in Hawkins anymore. The upside down will most likely be around still.

It doesn’t matter. A pinball machine isn’t a DVD box set, it’s a game. If it’s based on a TV show, it just needs enough iconic characters & scenarios to create a solid game out of. Simpsons, Sopranos, 24, CSI, Family Guy, Game of Thrones, Walking Dead ....none of them contain the entire narrative of the series, and that’s OK. 2 seasons of Stranger Things has more content to make a game out of than the LOTR trilogy. Most people play a game of pinball for 3-5 minutes. 2 seasons worth of characters and events are enough for a pinball game’s path of objectives and narrative.

Yep. Just trying anything and hoping to get lucky.

The slower the ball, the lower it will hit on the demogorgen. The higher the speed the higher it will hit on the demogorgen. All other things being equal if the ramp, PF, and demogorgen all go up/down with the PF pitch, that's the net result. Not sure why it's turning into some weird discussion point.

It's got to be a setup issue. I played with a Pinsider friend yesterday. We were hitting the demogorgan easily. Usually on the first or second attempt.

If it is a setup issue then then need to get the QC in check. Seems to be a wide spectrum. I have played three now and all three are similarly on the tough side of the spectrum.

Flipper power?

Yeah. There's a good number of pins based on TV shows that are missing around half of the content from the show as the game is released while the show is halfway through its run. TWD, GOT, and now Stranger Things all feel incomplete as the code ends up telling the themes beginning, a middle, and...that's it. It's bummer from an objective ruleset perspective as there's no real end of the theme to reach, and certain events like you said end up missing from modes. I'm sure this is done on purpose to rack up sales while the shows popularity is still high.

How long before someone superglues season 3 and 4 action figures to the plastics and want to charge more the “the mods”.

You fundamentally don’t understand pinball game design and what matters. No one is expecting 40 hours of programming & storytelling distilled into a 5 minute pinball game.

Yes I'm sure we're all clambering for that universally loved ending to GOT!
(today I learned clambering is spelled with a b!)

What matters to some players is having a themes full story covered especially when it's going to be filled with a dozen + modes and cost $6k-$9k+. I guess any pinball designer who created a pin based off of a trilogy didn't know what the hell they were doing. LOTR would have been better if it covered just the first 2 films and that's it right? Batman 66 should have covered just the first season too! Stern Star Wars? Might as well have created modes just for Empire Strikes Back and been done with it.

Also, you fundamentally don't understand pinball game design if you believe less then 40 hours of programming goes into these games.