This will be plastic on the pro and metal on the PreLE.

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Thank you!

Thanks for the replies. My wallet has come out of my pocket and on to the bench!

Next question I do alot with pinsound but this system is not compatible.
Can I do my own full orchestration with Pinball Browser?

Also the metal apron has lighting ..at least it has on other titles.

Yes you can change things in stern pins which is really nice.

I wonder if there is a design consideration for the projector underneath it.

I would imagine there are set screws to adjust pitch and angle in combination with software settings to calibrate the projection.

Thanks thats great.
Looks like I better start printing up mods!
First up interactive lit revolving Arcade sign!

In AFM, it was probably inadvertent design. During multiball in AFM, the saucer kills cannot be progressed because the bank/drop targets are up and target hits do not register during multiball. In Medieval Madness the castle progression can happen during multiball play, bridge and gate hits register. However, in AFM, during multiball, a dirty pool shot will kill a saucer. So the question is, why would the scoop register during multiball and not a target hit in AFM? I'd guess design oversight and clever gamesmanship by players who discovered that. Hard to believe that was as-designed behavior and might or might not be there on Stranger Things but in that case, the designers are already aware of the issue. We'll see...

Has anyone heard when they will be streaming the premium/LE?

Pretty sure it goes back to the Addams family pin. You could sometimes sneak the ball into the bookcase while it was closed and Gomez would say "dirty pool old man" like in the movie. So now some people talk about features where things shouldn't be possible but happen and the game still registers it as dirty pool.

I think anyway

Every single Jurassic Park I've seen has dimpling and playfield chipping. Every single Elvira I've seen has major dimpling (some after 2 weeks of minimal play). Sorry, but Stern's quality control is still absolute shit and it's completely pathetic the way they've handled and continue to handle the situation. Sending out washers and pieces of paper that say the dimpling will "even out" doesn't satisfy me as a customer. Why people continue to buy their out of the box damaged 6000$+ toys I will never understand.

Maybe it’s Schrodingers playfield and your observing it is causing the dimpling...my JP2 doesn’t have any but you haven’t seen it...thinking I should keep it that way to be safe

Just watched Cary Hardy's stream-reaction video, and he made a great point on the playfield design. In order for the projector to work, the playfield had to be wide-open, otherwise the image would be blocked by whatever mechs or ramps that were in front of the projector. You need a clear line-of-sight for the projector to work. Makes sense now why they went this way with the design, after they decided that they wanted to do a projector.

or you could view the thread with about 1000 examples of it. your choice.

hows your clearcoat lookin? got those washers coverin up the damage yet?

Some one said strange? I'm in!

Speak with your wallet until the situation changes. If you don’t like the product don’t “reward” bad business behaviours by purchasing. Hopefully enough customers do that and something get done to remedy the issue.

My local distributor said they’d look after me regardless of what happens and then I saw stern weren’t doing full replacements “at all”. So even in the situation where my distributor has intentions to help they really don’t have anything they can do except take back the machine. I cancelled my orders and won’t order another nib until it stops.

I don't get why they rushed this one out when they still have a ton of Jurassic Park Premiums (and it does appear to be a ton) on backorder. I guess those are definitive sales and they feel the need to push this out for quick impulse sales?

Looks like they will finally have the time to run a Tron Vault in a few months if this one does indeed flop (as it appears from the feedback here, not my personal guess).

I too was expecting sooooo much more from Eddy. Maybe next time?

I think people expect designers to come up with totally unique layouts that in reality are very difficult to implement in a way that they shoot smoothly.

Kudos Keith obviously.

And designers go back to what has worked for them and what does well commercially.

Look at Ritchie.

Everyone moaned and moaned when AC/DC came out as it was a 'rehashed T2'.

And yet, with great code, it was Stern's best selling game.

If this game is coded great, then it is going to be a massive seller. Probably will be anyway.

Code has reminded me of AS, GOTG a little bit, so hope there is not too much Lonnie cutting and pasting.

Nobody can possibly critique it until they've played the game.

start the saucer mode before starting multi ball...

They are talking about the apron.

Since ypu didn‘t know about the arch and pinball browser...

...plz bear in mind that it‘s easy to fry your nodeboards if you just hook up additional lighting to an insert light.

That's not why people are hating on this. Nobody hated jurassic park. This pin looks like shit. That's why the hate. We went from JP to this? Yikes.

If you use JP as the benchmark for your opinions of games, you’re not gonna like very many new games.

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Teasing of course... I completely agree.

in regards to hits to the demagagon (sp?) that hit it but do not go in the hole, there is no switch on the mech.

There is an opto which can register but the ball would need to fall straight down in front of the molded toy scuplt (which is rarely does)

In other words, Lonnie and crew, please ensure a bail out shot so people dont get locked in to that mode.

Arch was me. I only know that part as apron. I was imagining something in the cabinet or below the playfield to increase rigidity or something.

In any case, good advise though!

This would be an amazing callout if you failed to complete one of the modes. Haha

Would’ve been funny if they had Hopper do his best AFM jackpot and super jackpot callouts.

Yes they can...

Obviously there is a TON of Hopper voice work coming in future code. Maybe the playfield design wasn't Brian's only nod to his 90's roots.

Pinside has proven this plenty of times. Haha.

Waiting for the LE on this one . This honey bun needs to cook a little more.

Yes, the stream is all Jackpot.

So I was more excited about this pin coming than maybe any ever! I guess I was also thinking of innovation in regards of the playfield design and toys. Kinda reminds me of what happened with Star Wars. The good news after 2 yrs later sw to me became one of the best pins so I’m in hopes.
But I am disappointed.

For those that are disappointed so far. What were some of the things physically that you’d wish they had done?

Lower or upper playfield would’ve been bad for this imo

Magnets all over the main playfield is a bad idea too. See TWD. Just make things more frustrating than cool.

I’m not a very imaginative person, so I struggle with ideas in this regard.

You lucky effers in Colorado can play it TODAY!!!

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Greenwood Village, here we come!

I am pumped they did it this way. Completely new, never been done before and will never cause a cheap drain. Win, win, win.

Fair point here. They seem to have similar coding as AFM at the moment.

Yes. Same reason why they do not do widebodies. They buy the lockbars and cabinets in bulk and never change them. Makes sense from a bottle line standpoint.

Agree. Time will tell but on the surface I would expect similar timing to rule the universe with some added time due to having to play the modes on your way to the mini wizard modes. So 45 mins seems adequate as far as an expectation.

More interactive playfield, not just lanes and ramps. Sure the demagorgon is nice but there could be more to do.

Like what??

Multiple magnets under the center of the playfield (Dialed In / Addams Family style) would have been perfect considering 11's powers. The magnets could have been used in a number of chapter modes and multiballs where 11 uses her powers. This would also break up the void in the middle of the playfield and overall add a lot more excitement to the game.

Agree 100%. A friend is getting his Friday, we shall see.

Or for me, frustration. No bueno.