Quoted from Russell:Is this a known thing? Somehow I missed that. Would be a great thing if they did a full release.
A very reliable source said this a few weeks ago.
Quoted from Russell:Is this a known thing? Somehow I missed that. Would be a great thing if they did a full release.
A very reliable source said this a few weeks ago.
Well, for being my most wanted theme, I am really disappointed in what I saw on stream. I know the code is early, but it just didn't look fun. The screen graphics didn't really fit the show to me. It is like they went full TnA with it and that really isn't how the show feels. They lean into the nostalgia in the show, but not in a Miami Vice cocaine kind of way, which is how the display graphics felt. I also really don't like the plunge shot that is like Star Wars. Always a crap shoot if you are going to get screwed throwing the ball out of control off of the plunge.
That said, I really hope it comes around as I want to love it so bad.
Total retread layout wow seen it all before. Attack from Mars and Medieval Madness from left to right orbit, ramp, middle toy, ramp, orbit. Nothing new here been done before. Stick with the two classic games and wait for something that is actually new.
Quoted from Russell:I get your point, but Beatles remake is actually a great game.
Yep, it is brilliant
Quoted from chuckwurt:Literally nothing. People comparing every game to JP2 outside of the next Elwin game, is seriously not even fair. Haha
Yeah, hate to say it, but I cancelled my LE and am on the hunt for JP2 LE instead. That game is just brilliant. Huge fan of Brian Eddy, but I was surprised they didn't go a different direction, more towards The Shadow layout rather than AFM/MM. I hope it ends up great anyhow with code updates.
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Yep, look like pinball machines. All except it will have completely different flow with orbits and returns.
Look Star Wars and ACDC have the same layout but play nothing alike...
Quoted from Waxx:Same game, layout is identical. No one buy Star Wars it is a retread.[quoted image]
Nice photo. But the reality is that despite the visual similarities, these games shoot nothing like each other.
Hmmm.. the theme integration is way worse than I anticipated. The clips do nothing to enhance the game, the call outs (what very very little there currently are) sound really unenthusiastic and uninspired. No funny moments being presented, just random stuff with almost no sounds from the show. Upside down mode that last a few seconds and doesn't really do anything interesting. The middle shot which takes forever to get to only lasts a couple shots to complete with very little payoff. Just bizarre implementation. On the positive, this is mostly code related stuff, so it COULD be fixed. The shots look really good, fun and satisfying. Very smooth. But if the code isn't there, we may have another Munster's on our hands, sadly. Either way, seems like status quo for Stern, for what it's worth.
Quoted from kermit24:Nice photo. But the reality is that despite the visual similarities, these games shoot nothing like each other.
That’s my point, was my post not dripping with enough sarcasm?
Quoted from Waxx:That’s my point, was my post not dropping with enough sarcasm?
Must have been too smart. Over my head.
Quoted from Waxx:Yep, look like pinball machines. All except it will have completely different flow with orbits and returns.
Look Star Wars and ACDC have the same layout but play nothing alike...
Sure. Guess I’m just bored - enjoying JP2 and Deadpool at the moment because they’re at least a little different.
Quoted from cooked71:Sure. Guess I’m just bored - enjoying JP2 and Deadpool at the moment because they’re at least a little different.
Both great games, I’m glad you enjoy them. I own and love DP even though it has elements from Avengers, LotR, and JM. All great Gomez pins.
I'm curious as to what exactly is worth the premium of $1,600 to $3,000 for the Premium and Limited editions?
Is it the $5 magnet?
Is it the $200 (likely 20-50 lumen) off-the-shelf mini-projector?
Is it the $75 shaker motor?
Is it the $20 interior side panels?
Is it the $100 back glass?
Never been a fan of this tiered system of making slightly different versions of a game, but with significant price increases for minimal benefit. I'm all for capitalism, but for an extra $3,000 there better be some SIGNIFICANTLY better bells and whistles included than a gimmick projector and a magnet. $3,000 is a lot of money.
Pins should top out around $8,000. This $9,000-$12,000 "Premium-Ultra-Turbo" pricing is just absurd unless it's something REALLY amazing.
fkkinknowit (resized).jpgQuoted from konghusker:I gotta ask why they even show it? It's not interesting at all right now. Why would anyone rush out to buy until they can see what it will be when done? I love the show, but I'm not feeling this game for some reason. I will say though, the pro has a good light show at this point.
You have input to the code. If you think you like stuff added, tell Stern, you never know, sometimes your ideas are added to the game.
Quoted from jellikit:At first I thought you were Jason Rufer! Congratulations!
Troy has way more grey.
Man y'all are an angry bunch.
I just got done playing the pro for a few hours.
Game shoots great - music is killer as well as the sound effects. The code is definitely early. The game feels like AFM but with a snappier Stern feel to it.
I really enjoyed playing it and look forward to seeing the premium. It just feels great to shoot.
Quoted from Russell:Is this a known thing? Somehow I missed that. Would be a great thing if they did a full release.
Quoted from Deez:Man y'all are an angry bunch.
I just got done playing the pro for a few hours.
Game shoots great - music is killer as well as the sound effects. The code is definitely early. The game feels like AFM but with a snappier Stern feel to it.
I really enjoyed playing it and look forward to seeing the premium. It just feels great to shoot.
The people whining have not played the game. This happens every reveal.
I am by no means a hater, I root for all pinball games, but the silence in here is deafening (at least as far as positive posts go). I was expecting a much bigger reaction. Of course, it is almost Christmas so that can be a factor.
I have to believe if you are a fan of Stern games, that you are at least somewhat disappointed in this release. I know that most people were expecting a lot more out of Brian Eddy. We will probably never know what restraints he faced, how much the license cost, etc.
As far as the big toy in the middle goes, it reminds me quite a bit of the flowers in Pink Floyd's 'The Wall' (The one on the receiving end!).
If Stern has any left, they can always make a Godzilla game and convert it to Biollante.
Oh don't worry, there'll be that one guy who lives and breaths Stern and pre-orders them all and claims that everyone who doesn't like them is stupid while shitting on every other manufacturers' games. He probably hasn't drank enough yet.
I really don’t get the concern over the projector. Didn’t they say it was basically off the shelf. I just bought my daughter a portable projector and it was half the price of pin stadiums and way more than you would need in a pin.
Quoted from Darscot:I really don’t get the concern over the projector. Didn’t they say it was basically off the shelf. I just bought my daughter a portable projector and it was half the price of pin stadiums and way more than you would need in a pin.
It kind of goes two ways...it's either expensive or cheap. If it's cheap, then what justifies the price jump? If it's expensive, that scares people for how much it will cost to replace. The other is just wondering how much it is actually integrated into the game. It's really the more interesting part of the game in my opinion. I'm still curious to see how that works out. Maybe since the code isn't too terribly far along, they are holding off on showing it off more? Also, I think it will be one of those things you really need to see in person, a video/pics of it won't show nearly as well as people will want it to. It's not a bright clear 4k projector.
Quoted from jcg9998:I am by no means a hater, I root for all pinball games, but the silence in here is deafening (at least as far as positive posts go). I was expecting a much bigger reaction. Of course, it is almost Christmas so that can be a factor.
I have to believe if you are a fan of Stern games, that you are at least somewhat disappointed in this release. I know that most people were expecting a lot more out of Brian Eddy. We will probably never know what restraints he faced, how much the license cost, etc.
Well, things I liked about the game:
1. Drop targets on a pro.
2. I like the idea of the drop targets leading to falling center ramp (or something like that).
3. The game looks very flowy and fast but fair. Looked really fun to shoot.
4. Lots of modes, multiballs, and 3 mini-wizard modes is pretty cool.
5. It's a good looking machine.
Always tough to judge a game by a stream though. The few people who have played it on location say is fun to shoot -- so that's a good sign at least.
Quoted from Zablon:It kind of goes two ways...it's either expensive or cheap. If it's cheap, then what justifies the price jump? If it's expensive, that scares people for how much it will cost to replace. The other is just wondering how much it is actually integrated into the game. It's really the more interesting part of the game in my opinion. I'm still curious to see how that works out. Maybe since the code isn't too terribly far along, they are holding off on showing it off more? Also, I think it will be one of those things you really need to see in person, a video/pics of it won't show nearly as well as people will want it to. It's not a bright 4k projector.
It has to shine like two feet onto what a ten inch area, a killer projector for that spec would be $100. Sure Stern has to deliver content but technology or bulb life is not an issue.
Quoted from OLDPINGUY:I keep thinking in the back of my mind it feels like x-files.....
Its more like afm and guardians had a baby....
Quoted from konghusker:Theater screen on premium looks horrible when turned off(matters to some people)
Of all the criticisms so far, the complaints about how the game looks when it’s off are by far the dumbest.
How often are you guys standing over your powered off games and looking down at the playfields? For me it’s like .001% of the time.
Someone please explain.
Hmm, looks all right. Definitely has some positive traits, but something feels a little lacking, or a little off in some way. I think the big thing is the lack of period music from the show. At this point I think I kinda like the VPX table better, even though it has less depth. The VPX table does have the 80s soundtrack, which is big, and it has more frequent use of show clips.
Also, who directed David Harbour's voiceovers? A lot of the lines sound good, but "Jackpot!" needs waaaaaay more life to it. Just ask John Rhys-Davies how to callout a jackpot. There is a lot of potential though, especially as they add things with code updates.
Still, as with every pin. Playing is believing.
Looks like a fun fast game, can’t wait to play one on location! Tried to watch the first season and the show did nothing for me.
Quoted from dangerwil:In on an LE. Game looks like a wood chopping snore fest.
Why the f**k would you buy one then?
This hobby never fails to amaze me ....
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Quoted from dangerwil:Game looks like a wood chopping.... fest.
Quoted from rotordave:Why the f**k would you buy one then?
This hobby never fails to amaze me ....
rd
Maybe he likes chopping wood....
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I’m actually a big fan of the show, watched all 3 seasons and it transported me back to the 80’s of my teens.
I think a big part of the appeal is the music which looks like it isn’t in the pin which is a shame.
If I’m the target audience, I’m just not feeling the “gotta gotta have this no matter what” vibe like I did with Ghostbusters then Star Wars.
Then again I didn’t think that about JP2 until I saw the gameplay and went coco-bananas trying to get one ha!
Loving the comments on the demogorgan and what it looks like.
That in itself is worth a thread.
Still confirms the abbreviation of the game name to STD for me seeing that demogorgan.
Quoted from Gov:Well, for being my most wanted theme, I am really disappointed in what I saw on stream. I know the code is early, but it just didn't look fun. The screen graphics didn't really fit the show to me. It is like they went full TnA with it and that really isn't how the show feels. They lean into the nostalgia in the show, but not in a Miami Vice cocaine kind of way, which is how the display graphics felt. I also really don't like the plunge shot that is like Star Wars. Always a crap shoot if you are going to get screwed throwing the ball out of control off of the plunge.
That said, I really hope it comes around as I want to love it so bad.
My comment from the angle of someone who reveled in the 80's but could not get into the Netflix st series.
The stream was well presented and the game looks fine ! Thanks Jack Danger for another great stream ( Took you a little while to get warmed up ; ) )
Super impressed with a Very solid effort for a Stern Pro , IMHO the best Stern Pro to date.
I think when Prem/LE is revealed and code is advanced many pinheads will be blown away !
My most positive comment would be that the designer and team has created Atmosphere/Ambience achieved through Art, Audio and Video, this is a huge step forward and something that makes a pinball machine special.
Bottom line
Too early to judge the package, code is a work in progress.
Congrats Team Stern, Awesome effort !
Quoted from RA77:My comment from the angle of someone who reveled in the 80's but could not get into the Netflix st series.
The stream was well presented and the game looks fine ! Thanks Jack Danger for another great stream ( Took you a little while to get warmed up ; ) )
Super impressed with a Very solid effort for a Stern Pro , IMHO the best Stern Pro to date.
I think when Prem/LE is revealed and code is advanced many pinheads will be blown away !
My most positive comment would be that the designer and team has created Atmosphere/Ambience achieved through Art, Audio and Video, this is a huge step forward and something that makes a pinball machine special.
Bottom line
Too early to judge the package, code is a work in progress.
Congrats Team Stern, Awesome effort !
Best Stern pro to date? No sir, no.
Quoted from Halfwasted:Best Stern pro to date? No sir, no.
From what I have seen yes,
Lets give it a few months, Im not a Stranger Things fan but think this will Slay other Stern Pro's
The delivery and atmosphere is exceptional for such early code, and this is only judging from video.
Perhaps we need to actually step up to the machine ?
Quoted from Russell:Is this a known thing? Somehow I missed that. Would be a great thing if they did a full release.
Yes it is, I wrote that also just this page.
Quoted from RA77:From what I have seen yes
You've seen wrong!
I don't think he talks about the code but about actual mechs in the game.
Stranger Things falls a bit short in that regard.
Looks pretty good but I'm going to give it 6 months for code to mature and for stern to prove they've sorted QC and clear issues before my hard earned money goes their way....
Quoted from JonCrox:I'm going to give it 6 months for code to mature..
With Lonnie on the code make ik 6 years
looks like a nice game. Nice the way the designer Mr. Eddy has kept lots of his signature elements. It even has a drawbridge (ramp) and targets in the center, with the twist that the ball goes airborn into a hole - nice touch. Can we assume we’ll have to defeat the demogorgon 6 times or so like we do with the castle owners? I also like the way the orbits lead to nontypical places. The left ramp has an unusual shape, which I like. I reckon the beamer will either be the next big revolution in pinball or a one off - it’s a great idea with lots of potential. It appears that the screen will block the view a bit, though. Theme is decent I guess, I really enjoyed the first two seasons of the show and looking forward to no. 3. Now if only Stern would give us some encouraging information about long term availability of replacement node boards I could imagine purchasing one of these.
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