No projector on the pro. Trust me.

No one has played or really seen eaither... plus does it really matter? One is sold out and other will be ready to purchase soon. We have 2 new pins with good current themes and that's what matters imo.

I am very much considering:

1. Selling Scared Stiff or....
2. Selling TFLE and GoTPro

To purchase this game.

Please, Stern, please please please show me you have 100% fixed your PF issues.

I'll wait a solid 6 months to a year and let Pinsiders find out for me.

All that being said, man, this one looks good. Glad to see they got this theme while it's still relatively hot and NST is still relevant.

My logic will stay ahead of my emotions until I know the PF issues are a past issue. Then, I'll pick option #1 or #2 to bring this home. Looks fantastic!

How much is the Hopper Topper?

I agree, both machines look really good. Nice to see that multiple companies are producing some really unique layouts.

Stranger Things from what I see and I am in on a blood sucker edition R&M .

Completely different pins probably should not even be compared.

I never even watched the full season one. Haven't watched any of the subsequent seasons.

I HAVE NO FUCKS TO GIVE, SOMEONE GET THIS THING IN MY HANDS, RIGHT NOW.

I'm calling it. This is Tron Legacy 2.0. If the pro is missing that much, people are going to be modding the hell out of it, and those that buy the premiums are going to be the winners, again, because everyone else will have spent as much on mods to do the same damn thing that was already sold. LE....who cares, unless Stern does that thing again where LE has exclusive code or something to set it apart other than cosmetics. Only this time...nobody gets screwed by limited production except us broke ass jokes that cant afford it right now, or likely before the run ends..

Premiums are going to be freakin' all over the place. There's no way in hell I dont see at least two or three of these on location here in Dallas, stat.

And if the rules pan out to be AfM/MM style but more modes? I'm perfectly damn okay with this. This game looks like it is going to be a bloody riot to jack in a headphone kit, turn off the lights, and go to town for half an hour forgetting the rest of the world.

No kidding,
What an awesome week in pinball!

AND, actual assets!

that is great!

lack of round speakers mean its not an LE for sure

Stranger Things easily. Moving ramp, multiple drop targets with shot behind it, magnet backboard toy, large interactive toy / ball lock, projection toy.

Rick and Morty looks cool but the main toy is a plastic space ship on a spring.

Cannot wait to sink my teeth into the pro and then upgrade to a premium/LE presuming it’s great like some of the other recent Stern titles. Meanwhile, I found these today and believe they’ll fit great inside the pin.

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It’s a very exciting time to be a pinball player. I’m going to stop by a place in a couple minutes and play their on location Jurassic.

That is special. I’m crossing my fingers they get this too.

If you compare the Premium Stern to R&M which are similar in price you have to consider that R&M gives you custom powdercoat, a real Backglass, and full RGB LEDs. You can't just look at the toys.

Nobody concerned with the clearcoat issues? I thought there was still some problematic playfields popping up.

Also, aren’t recent customers with bad playfields having to fight to get an unpopulated playfield? Other customers report being ghosted with regards to their playfield warranty requests?

Stern upping their game is exactly what we all wanted. I think at first glance, they've done that. Let's see how this plays out.

NIB Addicts forget so quickly. It’s a strange thing.

All those extras plus ship is the BSE, which will run higher than current pricing on stern premium.

Really? What is Stern Premium now? Last one was 11k right? Do'nt see R&M going that high (because you still have to add + tax + shipping on a stern as well).

I’ve seen stranger things. I’ve heard people are pooping on store floors for kicks. Very strange things.

I am, more their customer service though - anyone can have manufacturing problems, but what really counts is how they fix the issues for people who bought the machines. So far they are handling it very poorly and SFA for guys with issues.

I wont be buying because of this, but do want to play one on location looks interesting!

Even the Standard edition at $7k has custom powder, real Backglass and full rgb-led. The biggest reason to go BSE was to get the game sooner.

Definitely play one on location for six months and that should allow plenty of hard data to come in. If all signs point to good, time to buy one for your home. They should be on Stern’s line for a few years.

You wouldn't know it by some of the replies here where people are getting attacked just for questioning Stern playfield quality.

What's Stern's next pin!

I posted about it less than an hour ago:

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-stranger-things/page/28#post-5369197

Too bad that didn’t work out for attack from mars either.

Got it. Forgot they switched to powder on standards w/ACNC.

I am. Waiting for others to buy and test out the QC.

No taxes or shipping from my Distro

Jurassic premium was a few thousand less than that.

But that's on all, not just sterns.

Clearly they're using video mapping technology, which honestly isn't very hard to do. However they have to be using a very affordable video projector, you need low lighting and I'm promise you those projectors won't last long. Those would be a short throw type and I use them in attractions we build, they burn out quickly. It will be interesting to see how they're doing that and if it will last long.

In a barcade where they're turned on all the time I DO NOT KNOW how long it will be before you replace that part.

I've got a bunch of short throw FX in attractions I build and you replace them sometimes every year.

I like the ambition of trying video mapping tech in a pinball. That is what I would call going for it! Kudos to Stern. Now lets see if it works in a bright room or how long they last in barcades.

I haven’t read through all the reactions but I don’t get the naysayers on this one. It looks awesome:
- Brian Eddy
- we complain about a lack of pinball magic/innovation from Stern, but then you get a projector, multiple physical ball locks, a moving monster behind a drive in movie theater that lowers to form a ramp
- supposedly 40+ modes
Etc etc

It’s like we say we want X, but then say “well it’s gonna be bad when X breaks!” Or “Those modes will be too short I bet!”

Anyway looks awesome to me!

and if they didn't, I'll mix it some myself and share!

It’s just irrelevant to compare the two games. One is truly limited & that limit is already sold out. If you wanted a NIB Rick & Morty game, that was the only way to get it. There won’t be more. Comparing prices to an unlimited Stern just doesn’t mean anything.

So in a house, where it is turned on 5% of that time, replace it once...ever? And in a bar, maybe replace it “sometimes every year”? This doesn’t sound like a negative...that actually sounds pretty good!

Because Stern. That and the mini LED projector is like $75. You can't be gifted something like that for only $5,700.

Ill chime in again as some one who does video mapping and is a certified projectionist.

Throw distance is determined by the lens, not the lamp. Not sure why you are saying that is the reason they burn out. The lamp is the biggest wear and tear part of a projector. Plus, they should be cleaned out with compressed air every so often. I wonder if this one will have a fan.

The lamp and lumen number are my only concerns. Im guessing its under 1000 by the looks of the video.

Yeah, I was guessing it was one of the 1280x720 800-1000 lumen cheapies China cranks out because it's a very short distance from the apron to the screen and the images are still very dim and somewhat blurry. Be interesting to see what they actually went with when these hit the streets.

Not comparing two games at all, just evaluating pricing for a full featured game in 2020 and what we get for it. Limited means nothing to me.

Me too

Might not mean much to you, but supply/demand matters. Recently sold a Fathom and bought a BM66 Premium (with a few bucks left over Fathom is old, unlicensed, but rare/loved. RaM and Stranger Things are both great licenses. Too soon for any of us to know how they will play. I’m personally excited by the Danesi/Kerins collaboration on RaM...

Time will tell. Are you to fast to make judgments? I am in on both so I have nothing to gain or lose...

NWA

I never said that Spooky was a better value, just that they give you value in other ways at that price point besides just toys that Stern doesn't such as the custom powder, real Backglass and full rgb-leds. I'm a big fan of both companies and buy games from both of them. I'm in the process of ordering a JP2 in fact and wouldn't rule out Stranger Things if I really like it after playing it. The fact that Spooky is even in this conversation at all is pretty incredible based on economies of scale. Of course Stern should be providing way more value for the money.

Great information, thanks for sharing! It sounds like Stranger Things is likely using a pico / micro LED projector that doesn't use a bulb? From what I've read those last 15,000 - 30,000 hours which is along the same lifespan as a TV.

You're probably not getting anywhere near that life in the world outside the spec pages. But even if you are, you're likely not getting that at full brightness for its whole life.

I can't wait to see what pro has so i can compare. This might be my 1st Stern Premium NIB i normally just go pro.

11k? For premium? Le is usually 8500-9k. Premium can be had for 7200-7400 shipped with a few calls.