Star Wars (LE)
Stern, 2017
Star Wars (Premium)
Stern, 2017
Star Wars (Pro)
Stern, 2017
Star Wars Comic Art (Premium)
Stern, 2019
Star Wars Comic Art (Pro)
Stern, 2019Quoted from Yelobird:Looking at the picture gallery of this thread (top) all the ones including mine have 4 screws.
Yeah, I kinda knew that already.. R2 is working at the moment.. just pisses me off that Stern can’t sort their QC out..
Machine and toppers made for a cheap as possible, with employees that don’t give a fuck!
Quoted from Pinhead1982:Yeah, I kinda knew that already.. R2 is working at the moment.. just pisses me off that Stern can’t sort their QC out..
Machine and toppers made for a cheap as possible, with employees that don’t give a fuck!
Sorry, seemed like you posed this as a question just trying to help.
Quoted from Yelobird:Sorry, seemed like you posed this as a question just trying to help.
Sorry Dave
The QC on the assembly of these things was terrible. And it is super expensive. Not sure how much of that is licensing or Stern cash grabbing but it still sucks.
On the plus side, it is pretty cool once it is up and working. I've spent more money on worse things.
Quoted from paul_8788:I've spent more money on worse things.
The whole post sums up how I feel, but this was funny because it’s so true!
Quoted from PinballCharlie:I probably won’t spend much more time on this, just paint and weather it, add some tinted windows. Looks kind of goofy, but will file it under “better than nothing”.[quoted image][quoted image]
Very nice!
This topper is the most pitiful example of expensive Chinese crap I have ever seen. Why are you guys wasting your money?
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Chinese crap
Frankly The US actually stands for worse quality than Chinese, internationally speaking (=outside of US).
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:This topper is the most pitiful example of expensive Chinese crap I have ever seen. Why are you guys wasting your money?
The bigger question is why do you continue to waste time posting in a thread for a product you have no interest in?
Quoted from Dr-Willy:The bigger question is why do you continue to waste time posting in a thread for a product you have no interest in?
He's just participating in the new great American past time, "being super judgie". I just spent the last 3 hours listening to my in laws who have perfected the art....
Does anyone not agree that this toy is a complete piece of overpriced junk? If anyone really is convinced that this is a value priced quality product, please step up.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Does anyone not agree that this toy is a complete piece of overpriced junk? If anyone really is convinced that this is a value priced quality product, please step up.
Love ours. Completely disagree.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Does anyone not agree that this toy is a complete piece of overpriced junk? If anyone really is convinced that this is a value priced quality product, please step up.
Love ours too.
Quoted from Dr-Willy:The bigger question is why do you continue to waste time posting in a thread for a product you have no interest in?
I love mine too. Admittedly I was initially turned off by the price but to quote someone else, I've spent much more for less (including my $1500 of Alien air I purchased from Heighway).
I don't judge people for what they spend their money on, mainly because I don't care. I'm certainly not going to spout flame and crap all over their enjoyment of the purchase. If I wouldn't be rude enough to do it in person, why would I do it on the internet.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Does anyone not agree that this toy is a complete piece of overpriced junk? If anyone really is convinced that this is a value priced quality product, please step up.
Love mine, too. Yes, I had to fix it when I got it. Cost me an hour and some aggravation. And it shouldn't have, especially for the price. But I haven't yet gotten a pinball machine that didn't have something f**ked up out of the box, so what's the difference?
No regrets, and it works like a charm now. Can't imagine going back.
I don't mean to slam anyone for their purchase of this thing, sorry if I did. I wanted one of these when I bought the pin, but this is just not doing it. In fact, to me it is a joke that it costs more than 100 bucks. I threw a Boba Fett helmet on my machine and called it a day.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:In fact, to me it is a joke that it costs more than 100 bucks.
Has a full node board, motor control board, motor, multiple leds, metal base and metal ring/sleeve for the rotation. $750 is too much, but I think at the $499 price it would've been reasonable. Not great but compared to what some completely plastic non-interactive pinball toppers sell for, reasonable.
$100.00 is just trolling.
Quoted from Darscot:It is interesting that everyone responded emotionally. I think D-Gottlieb is making an objective observation. Both points of view can be correct and valid.
Seems like everyone simply responded with their opinion. I for one don’t need anyone’s justification on what I purchase or appreciate.
Quoted from Yelobird:Seems like everyone simply responded with their opinion. I for one don’t need anyone’s justification on what I purchase or appreciate.
That is the exact point I was making. Every single response started with Love or I love, I hope we can agree those are subjective opinions. D-Gottlieb was clearly being objective in his opinion. Objectively its hard to argue this topper is worth the money, subjectively of course it is. You for one have nothing to get defensive about I was simply pointing out you are both right. If your going to disagree at least use the same type of argument.
Quoted from Darscot:That is the exact point I was making. Every single response started with Love or I love, I hope we can agree those are subjective opinions. D-Gottlieb was clearly being objective in his opinion. Objectively its hard to argue this topper is worth the money, subjectively of course it is. You for one have nothing to get defensive about I was simply pointing out you are both right. If your going to disagree at least use the same type of argument.
You really are reading Way to much into this. I nor was anyone defensive to you or his post. Would it help you feel better if we say “we really like it a lot” instead of love it? Asking if we agree it’s “an over priced piece of junk” seems like trolling with stupid bait to me.
Quoted from Yelobird:You really are reading Way to much into this. I nor was anyone defensive to you or his post. Would it help you feel better if we say “we really like it a lot” instead of love it? Asking if we agree it’s “an over priced piece of junk” seems like trolling with stupid bait to me.
Read paul_8788 response he answer objectively to an objective point. It makes sense. They are talking about the cost of goods, manufacturing what you physically get for the money. That is objective. Responding with an emotional subjective opinion to an objective one doesn't make any sense you not even speaking the same language.
Quoted from Darscot:That is the exact point I was making. Every single response started with Love or I love, I hope we can agree those are subjective opinions. D-Gottlieb was clearly being objective in his opinion. Objectively its hard to argue this topper is worth the money, subjectively of course it is. You for one have nothing to get defensive about I was simply pointing out you are both right. If your going to disagree at least use the same type of argument.
There is no value or really anything worth the money in this hobby...it’s all overpriced but it’s fun.
There is nothing subjective or objective about it and that isn’t an emotional opinion. It’s probably why every single non pinhead I’ve had over thinks I’m f’ing nuts.
Quoted from Yelobird:You really are reading Way to much into this. I nor was anyone defensive to you or his post. Would it help you feel better if we say “we really like it a lot” instead of love it? Asking if we agree it’s “an over priced piece of junk” seems like trolling with stupid bait to me.
Don't forget "Why are you guys wasting your money?"
Quoted from Darscot:That is the exact point I was making. Every single response started with Love or I love, I hope we can agree those are subjective opinions. D-Gottlieb was clearly being objective in his opinion. Objectively its hard to argue this topper is worth the money, subjectively of course it is. You for one have nothing to get defensive about I was simply pointing out you are both right. If your going to disagree at least use the same type of argument.
How can a non-functional decoration be objectively "worth the money"? No amount of money is a good value for a non-functional item. It's not like the topper is a car, computer, drill, or some other functional item where you can objectively compare this topper's function against another and determine it's value for the money.
It's value is purely subjective.
Quoted from Schwaggs:How can a non-functional decoration be objectively "worth the money"? No amount of money is a good value for a non-functional item. It's not like the topper is a car, computer, drill, or some other functional item where you can objectively compare this topper's function against another and determine it's value for the money.
It's value is purely subjective.
I have already pointed out an example of objectivity, I have no idea why you guys insist on trying to mix the two and turn this into a boolean equation. I have nothing further to add.
Quoted from Schwaggs:How can a non-functional decoration be objectively "worth the money"? No amount of money is a good value for a non-functional item. It's not like the topper is a car, computer, drill, or some other functional item where you can objectively compare this topper's function against another and determine it's value for the money.
It's value is purely subjective.
Art is non-functional. I have paid handsome sums for pieces of art. This is not art.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Art is non-functional. I have paid handsome sums for pieces of art. This is not art.
And some people would say you got ripped off for some paper and paint or clay or with whatever raw material the art was constructed.
Another example of subjective value to which there is no right answer. Value is in the eye of the beholder.
Quoted from Schwaggs:And some people would say you got ripped off for some paper and paint or clay or with whatever raw material the art was constructed.
Another example of subjective value to which there is no right answer. Value is in the eye of the beholder.
There are a few museums that would disagree with you.
Quoted from D-Gottlieb:Art is non-functional. I have paid handsome sums for pieces of art. This is not art.
Yup. It’s half a basketball spray painted silver, with a bunch of poorly applied stickers, a $5 Chinese motor, and zero QC. All for 10x the price of some very amazing R2D2 toys with incredible detail and engineering. Owners may love it, and that’s totally great, but no one can deny Stern cheaped out to the N’th degree on this one.
Quoted from Yoko2una:Yup. It’s half a basketball spray painted silver, with a bunch of poorly applied stickers, a $5 Chinese motor, and zero QC. All for 10x the price of some very amazing R2D2 toys with incredible detail and engineering. Owners may love it, and that’s totally great, but no one can deny Stern cheaped out to the N’th degree on this one.
Something tells me that you and the other guy will spend your life not letting the owners forget.
Quoted from Dr-Willy:Something tells me that you and the other guy will spend your life not letting the owners forget.
Thank goodness we don't give a shit. 
The Stern art-blade package has 4 extra blades. I haven't worked on it, but have considered their use to spice-up the Topper.
I can see that there is a long discussion with Stern’s R2-D2. :^)
I saw that some people are quite happy while others are not.
I am with the latter group. I am very unhappy about the build quality and lack of detailing effort for the exorbitant price tag.
I am not here to add to the conversation other then I wanted to remedy the problems that bothered me. So, I concentrated on the lack of detail with the R2-D2 topper. It was quite obvious that a lot of detail was missing that makes R2-D2 the droid that he is.
My goal was to use the original Stern R2-D2 Dome and put on parts that were lacking. I took to the 3D printer community, thingiverse, to see if I could find something that would help to get these R2-D2 parts and details. While I did find good references, there was nothing that I could use directly.
I switched on Tinkercad to build the part models to make with my 3D printer and then used Photoshop to design the graphics from scratch using actual still frames from the A New Hope Episode 4 for R2-D2 displays. All parts designed to fit the Stern R2-D2 Dome directly. These are not functioning parts for adding esthetics only. There are no LEDs functioning logic displays, only printed graphics.
Here are those details added to my topper that I believed to be missing.
Here was my list.
1. (3) Holo-projection lens with the knurling detail and swivel ball base.
2. (2) Front Logic Displays- Top & bottom with blue and white lights graphic.
3. (1) Rear Logic Display with green and orange graphic.
Plus, I am adding working the Yavin X-wing Formation Graphic for behind the R2-D2 with some additional spot lamps. (As seen in the mock-up stage in the photos.) I am going to add some highlights to R2-D2’s dome to look “Battle Worn” and try to be happy with the topper, for now.
In the near future, I will be modeling up a new R2-D2 Dome designed with the individual Blue Panels with the recessed edges, as well as the correct details and working holo-projectors, lit logic display panels and color-changing red/blue & green/yellow color processor state indicators. And maybe adding a working projection of Princess Leia.
Have fun,
Daniel
20200612_174127 (resized).jpg20200612_174118 (resized).jpgQuoted from Mole:I can see that there is a long discussion with Stern’s R2-D2. :^)
I saw that some people are quite happy while others are not.
I am with the latter group. I am very unhappy about the build quality and lack of detailing effort for the exorbitant price tag.
I am not here to add to the conversation other then I wanted to remedy the problems that bothered me. So, I concentrated on the lack of detail with the R2-D2 topper. It was quite obvious that a lot of detail was missing that makes R2-D2 the droid that he is.
My goal was to use the original Stern R2-D2 Dome and put on parts that were lacking. I took to the 3D printer community, thingiverse, to see if I could find something that would help to get these R2-D2 parts and details. While I did find good references, there was nothing that I could use directly.
I switched on Tinkercad to build the part models to make with my 3D printer and then used Photoshop to design the graphics from scratch using actual still frames from the A New Hope Episode 4 for R2-D2 displays. All parts designed to fit the Stern R2-D2 Dome directly. These are not functioning parts for adding esthetics only. There are no LEDs functioning logic displays, only printed graphics.
Here are those details added to my topper that I believed to be missing.
Here was my list.
1. (3) Holo-projection lens with the knurling detail and swivel ball base.
2. (2) Front Logic Displays- Top & bottom with blue and white lights graphic.
3. (1) Rear Logic Display with green and orange graphic.
Plus, I am adding working the Yavin X-wing Formation Graphic for behind the R2-D2 with some additional spot lamps. (As seen in the mock-up stage in the photos.) I am going to add some highlights to R2-D2’s dome to look “Battle Worn” and try to be happy with the topper, for now.
In the near future, I will be modeling up a new R2-D2 Dome designed with the individual Blue Panels with the recessed edges, as well as the correct details and working holo-projectors, lit logic display panels and color-changing red/blue & green/yellow color processor state indicators. And maybe adding a working projection of Princess Leia.
Have fun,
Daniel
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Nice work mate!
Im currently looking at some C3PO’s to maybe add to the topper... just need to find one which is right size for it!
Something like this! 
pasted_image (resized).jpegQuoted from Mole:I can see that there is a long discussion with Stern’s R2-D2. :^)
I saw that some people are quite happy while others are not.
I am with the latter group. I am very unhappy about the build quality and lack of detailing effort for the exorbitant price tag.
I am not here to add to the conversation other then I wanted to remedy the problems that bothered me. So, I concentrated on the lack of detail with the R2-D2 topper. It was quite obvious that a lot of detail was missing that makes R2-D2 the droid that he is.
My goal was to use the original Stern R2-D2 Dome and put on parts that were lacking. I took to the 3D printer community, thingiverse, to see if I could find something that would help to get these R2-D2 parts and details. While I did find good references, there was nothing that I could use directly.
I switched on Tinkercad to build the part models to make with my 3D printer and then used Photoshop to design the graphics from scratch using actual still frames from the A New Hope Episode 4 for R2-D2 displays. All parts designed to fit the Stern R2-D2 Dome directly. These are not functioning parts for adding esthetics only. There are no LEDs functioning logic displays, only printed graphics.
Here are those details added to my topper that I believed to be missing.
Here was my list.
1. (3) Holo-projection lens with the knurling detail and swivel ball base.
2. (2) Front Logic Displays- Top & bottom with blue and white lights graphic.
3. (1) Rear Logic Display with green and orange graphic.
Plus, I am adding working the Yavin X-wing Formation Graphic for behind the R2-D2 with some additional spot lamps. (As seen in the mock-up stage in the photos.) I am going to add some highlights to R2-D2’s dome to look “Battle Worn” and try to be happy with the topper, for now.
In the near future, I will be modeling up a new R2-D2 Dome designed with the individual Blue Panels with the recessed edges, as well as the correct details and working holo-projectors, lit logic display panels and color-changing red/blue & green/yellow color processor state indicators. And maybe adding a working projection of Princess Leia.
Have fun,
Daniel
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I would be interested if you offer some of them
Regards Pat
The only mod that I've done to my topper is to put a little bit of window tint film over the LEDs in the base so they're not quite so bright and harsh. Other than that I plan on doing no mods. R2D2 is many decades-old and it has been damaged and rebuilt many times using whatever parts are available. There is no true standard in my mind.
I love turning the machine on and just having it make noises and move in attract mode as I'm walking through the room. My modding time will be spent elsewhere on things that actually bother me or simply need to be done in other games.
Quoted from the_one:I would be interested if you offer some of them
Regards Pat
Sure thing. Once I get done with the design updates, I would be glad to share the .STL design files to the community. So anyone interested could 3-d print them for your own R2-D2 Topper.
Hi all,
I have a pro inbound and would love the topper but obviously reading the 24 pages here it hasn't had the warmest of receptions and is unobtainable anyway. What have others done and has anybody made anything interactive with the game? Suggestions and links welcome please!
Quoted from JonCrox:Hi all,
I have a pro inbound and would love the topper but obviously reading the 24 pages here it hasn't had the warmest of receptions and is unobtainable anyway. What have others done and has anybody made anything interactive with the game? Suggestions and links welcome please!
Why is it unobtainable? Last check showed several vendors with them available.
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