Is IRMA threatening your home , family and pinball machines ? I hope not it looks bad Cat 3 but may ramp back up to Cat 4 by Sunday

I have started my own thread on an issue I had on a location SW Pro . I love this pinball . No one in the 10 responses has had this issue . Good except that I ran into it and I am (Secretly) hoping that one of you have had this issue and can reassure me that is not a (geometrically) flaw in the design of this SW pinball and it is fixable. It was very Bad issue on this machine and it seemed level in all regards. Sorry if I sound like a Drama queen . Here is a quote from my post. Afraid to buy this pinball.
I played STERN SW Pro on location for 6 hours. I may buy a LE or a Pro not sure yet and I (won't) buy it if this issue I am asking you about is on many SW machines. Here it goes . There is are (two control gates) at top of playfield one is left of the top lanes one is right of the top lanes under right ramp. They serve as many have done on many pinball games. Stopping the pinball from going Left to Right. Or stopping pinball Right to Left to feed the top rollover lanes and Pops. The Control gate's (other) function is to in some situations (Open) the gate to allow the pinball to travel through the two gate's buy lifting the gate flap (up) for shots to bypass the lanes and Pops and travel all the way around the back of the playfield in a large loop either going from the Left orbit to the right orbit. Or the Right Orbit to the left orbit pass the spinner. Just like TOM Spell Theatre on left orbit or Advance clock via right orbit. The issue I had with the STERN STAR WARS when I shot the (Right) Orbit and the control gate was activated allowing the pinball to travel around the back of playfield looping Right to left and descending screaming down the (left) orbit pass the spinner . 90-95% of the time the shot went SDTM . The machine was level at 6.5 and the bubble was center . It may not be level left to right but it looked ok. Even if it was off some this Right Orbit to Left Orbit shot I do not feel should be so off causing 90-95% of the pinball's to travel SDTM. It could be a leveling issue but it was BAD. I need input from the Pinside community who have played SW PRO/LE if is issue is wide spread. I read a lot of forum post for a month and did not read about this issue. I dig this pinball machine a lot . But not if this (Right) orbit to (Left) orbit shot is going to go SDTM 90% of the time. What has p-layers/owners experience been like to this issue I am having ? Gut say's Left to Right was off but it did not seen to be . Not my machine and no level for testing. I ready to pull the trigger . But not till I here communities feed back. Rob

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Thanks you probably correct. I have had similar issue on my LOTR LE pinball coming from the (Right) orbit feeding SDTM I fixed with messing with casters . But it still will do it SDTM from time to time. Just hoping a SW player or owner has run into this issue and can confirm it was resolved. As these SW model is expensive at the moment for me & $ 8,700. Thank you.

I like Yoda . But I see your point . I sold my SM due to the voice of the Daily Bugle actors voice and his call out and repetitive main sound track. Only machine I have ever sold do to Music and That damn voice . But I did it.

I played the same and only local SW location Pro again tonight for a few hours . A little better but not much .

I did notice on a slower shot by chance. I saw the pinball make (contact) from the metal loop that ends under the spinner. STERN put a leaf switch right below the spinner. There are two small posts that have a rubber around the leaf switch. This rubber is not flush with the metal loop of orbit . The rubber protrudes a few millimeters past the Metal Orbit loop frame. I think this is causing the pinball to bounce oddly enough to cause these SDTM issues. I took a photo It is hard to see but the rubber is protruding (Left Orbit exit) just out to cause an issue I believe .

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Did you have to buy a new Post to add below the (F) Drop ? I do not own the SW machine yet . Would you take a Photo and post so I and others see exactly what you did by adding the post. Thank You .

This is where STERN did it right on there STARWARS (3) model platform tier . They finely added choreographed GI LED lighting on The PRO/Prem/LE . And they also added all the same playfield RGB color changing inserts on all models.

Glad you fixed your issue! It sounds like a lot of work . For me and others after you Removed the ramps and right side plastics to get to the plunger lane rail to adjust it: How did you adjust it ? And what position did you move the plunger rail (left) (right) (up) (down) ??? Any additional info would be helpful . Thank you .

I am old school . I use a simple bubble level the is like a pen you could wear on shirt pocket . I have been wanting a digital or electronic level for pinball . What is the best type/brand to get And where do I purchase it from ? Thanks a million.

I am looking for a (Armor MOD) for small LCD display for Star Wars pinball . And a (Mirror) behind the back Rollover Lanes "ala" TOM There is one in the market place . It is not bad .
However It is not the one I like the best. I have seen it on a few machines . (Armor mini LCD MOD) and the (Mirror) backboard MOD) I PM the owners with no response . I relay to all PM I get many about my LED conversions . Any way the (2) MOD's look like this . See photo it is the best I want one . Thanks a Million .

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Pinside is great . Thanks to all for your help. Rob Knapp

Bare minimum .This goes for any pinball . Mylar or Clear laminating sheet cut to fit the shoot lane.

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Before you purchased your SWLE you made a comment about your concern price and sales tax of buying locally. Denver. I am in the same boat 7.6 % sales tax on these newer machines is killing me . I sent you a PM about your opinion but you did not replay. My I ask where you decided to purchase your SWLE and GOTG from ? I have never shipped in a pinball machine in my life . I always just pay the 7.6 % tax but the LE's are cost is nudging to look out of state . Thank you for any feedback .

Pro / Premium / LE all expensive with added 7.6 % sales tax.

I have since 1994.

I use 3 Mil. Selfseal Laminating sheet for (shooter lane) since I discovered it in 2008 at anoffice store . I use it around (scoops). I use it to cover (decals) like on TOM 'Trap Door'. I used on Scared Stiff crate Decal . I have used it over (ghosting inserts) . I have used it on areas of (art) on a playfield that is starting to wear like the 'Fish' on Red and Teds Road Show . I have used it over (magnets).I have used it on my Avengers LE HULK (LED) Flasher reflector to hold Flasher from falling out. It is so clear that it is almost invisible. I have never used it for its intended purpose . Only pinball . I dub it "Miracle Mylar"
https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/953053/Swingline-GBC-SelfSeal-Laminating-Sheets-3/

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Either Star Wars Prem /LE or Star Wars Pro are great . I have now played both multiple times.
I think the SW Pro is a better game . It just shoots better and is smoother. Easier Death Star shot .
Same as Game of Thrones Pro . It is best from a game play perspective .
That hold true for Star Wars Pro as well.
This just a point of view and other have good counterpoint .

It is minor wear . Yes do something about it absolutely. I would . Easy fix .
Step # 1 black sharpie ever so lightly color worn/defective paint on insert. If Step # 1 makes you nervous skip to Step # 2.
Step # 2 Buy some 3 mil. Self adhesive laminating sheet from an office store.
Step # 3 lay a piece of the 3 mil. Self adhesive laminating sheet over insert and trace the out line of outer black circle. Cut to fit .
Step # 4 take template. Peel off white backing and adhere over insert .
I have been doing this for many years .Better than mylar for this type of fix as it does not have as much sticky adhesive .
https://www.amazon.com/Swingline-SelfSeal-Adhesive-Laminating-3747307/dp/B000EFOBRE
This photo has nothing to do with SW. It is an example were I used the Laminate to make a decal to cover my KISS LE black rubber Disc as it was leaving black residue all over pinballs and playfield .

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Maybe. Maybe not . Chas and Patrick are good but if it is a code glitch STERN may have no clue .
(Does this Hoth issue happen on other people Pro model or LE ?)
I remember the STERN StarTrek Vengeance Multi-Ball issue were the magnet would hold the two pinballs together and not release them or add the third pinball . I called Chas and Patrick they had no Idea what I was talking about . I sent them a video of the issue . It took a year for STERN to find the problem . I almost sold my machine do to the issue . But STERN absolutely fixed with a Code up date it was a real Head scratcher .

One I am doing .

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I want the head of STERN Technical Support Patrick Powers to read any issues .
I would attach all three email address. Thanks for more information .

I found this (Do it your Self ) photo on the official 189 190 " Holy Nod board thread " one of the two fixes both need to be done. This is DIY spacer # 102

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/holy-node-board-batman-and-ghostbusters-and-aerosmith-and-star-wars/page/3#post-4097250

As an former owner of DataEast SW it is a fun pinball and has a great original John Williams score . Original 1977 cast voice overs . Excellent Art and the best Backglass art for Star Wars in my opinion . And the 25th anniversary code update rom gives it better balance of game play . It is still a classic DataEast and John Borgs most successful DataEast pinball . It is much easer to understand for players . STERN SW is for seasoned pinball players. I like them both. STERN SW is the best version of the Original trilogy . In my opinion. And my favorite . But many plays will find it to hard . Those are some reason why Data East SW will remain liked in addition to freedom of choice and to have one's own opinion.

What about ZOOM Spout .The LA-CO® Precision Spout Oiler has a flexible telescoping spout specially designed to reach up to 13" to lubricate hard-to-reach areas. The nondetergent SAE 10 turbine-grade oil is an excellent general purpose lubricant for use on rotating and reciprocating motors, bearings, slides, and other equipment. This stuff last a long time . I use it on Game of Thrones battering ram slide . VID1900 turned me on to it .

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De-OX-ID is great as well. Carbon Dioxide/Heptane/Mineral Oil/VM&P Naptha .Food for thought .

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Annoying . STERN Stand -Up seem to do this more than my Midway machines . If you reseat the target I used a piece of bamboo shish kebab stick in wood screw hole to tighten the fit . SW flair and X-Men Target Flair .

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This looks awesome . Should I order the 1/2 inch split for Star Wars Targets stand up targets?

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Glad you resolved the issue . What tool did you use to as you say (Whittle) to expand the circumference of circle ? Thank You.

The Pro shoots excellent . I own KISS LE . It is so cool with the GENE mech. So I see your point However. Is the SW PRO barran i would say yes compared to my other STERN pins . Is it boring hell no it is an adrenaline rush .Is the SWLE better possibly . I think what you missed is there were to many other pinball machines that you mentioned are very (aesthetically) pleasing and distracted you away from Star Wars . You were not able to get a true feel for the pinball . STERN Star Was is the best Star Wars Pinball based on the original trilogy ever made . The Pro is an excellent example of value as it has the same RGB color changing inserts and the choreographed GI lighting as the Premium/Limited Edition. It is all about the game play. The modes are represented great in synergy to the LCD film clips and voice overs from the original films . The music by John Williams score is excellent . All this brings you into the Star Wars original Trilogy universe . The game play is hard. But there are so many ways to choose to play the rule-set. The shot multiplier system is very addicting as you learn how you may manually move the shots around the playfield for maximum scoring . I have never played a pinball game with this type of control given to the player. This style of code brings so much "breadth" of strategically building up you shot multipliers and choosing different main character from the Star Wars 1977 film to aid you through your playing experience . It is a " masterpiece" in coding and fun. And "Fun" is what defines a great pinball machine .

I ordered a full set of playfield plastics and decals direct from STERN in 2013 for my NIB Avengers LE . I did have to buy the entire playfield plastic set however. STERN has gotten tougher with going through a distributor . So find out were your machine was purchased if you do not know use SS# . Have distributor order the plastic set .