Quoted from o-din:
I already got accosted for doing that.
I think this Star Wars will blow away the DE one ... so we are in total disagreement.
Having said that, I don't know why people get all worked up when people criticize a pinball machine. If you're right, bozos like me will take a bath cash wise and will make feeble attempts to justify owning a pile of trash. If you're wrong, then I'll have a great pinball machine light years ahead of any Star Wars themed pin out there. I haven't seen you post anything that would warrant a ban. Talk about thin skinned people out there ...
I guess people are too enthralled with owning these things as "investments" and not as they toys that they are .
Quoted from o-din:
I sure as hell would never buy one until I had a chance to play it and it really won me over.
I'm like that 99% of the time. I missed out on Tron LE due to my bias against anything photoshopped on a playfield and the overall look of the machine in pictures. I don't want to make that mistake this time around.
I'm in a position where I can mitigate some of the risk buying this sight unseen ... I can put it out in a very safe location (i.e. work) and earn some cash to offset what I'm probably going to be spending. I'd probably*not* risk buying one like this if it weren't for that particular "feature" .
I finally got to play SW pro three times yesterday. I will not be canceling my LE. I know I am going to love this game over the long haul . It's got the blend of speed and flow I love (I'm a huge Steve Ritchie fan ... there's bias there ... but this pin is a *perfect* mix of speed, flow, and difficulty). Moreover, it's not like any other pin I own. It actually compliments Star Trek quite well.
I think people that are disappointed with the overall aesthetics of the game have completely valid arguments. While I don't think it's as cheap as the Spiderman "The Pin" (that criticism was quite harsh ), it certainly feels like something is missing from the playfield. I think the wire ramps on the Premium/LE are going to help that feeling somewhat.
Still, there's something still missing ... three "specifics" of the old trilogy that didn't seem to be captured well were Bespin, Jabba, and Dagobah. Jabba can certainly be covered by Tatooine and I'm sure there's going to be more Yoda than what we've seen on the LCD, but I think it would have been cool to have Bespin be represented by the pop bumpers and have each bumper hit represent some gas mined (or something like that). Doing that, they could have had the back panel split between the Star Destroyer and other space combat stuff on the left and Bespin art on the right (maybe have a Bespin toy mounted over the pop bumpers?).
I know a few of the missions take place on Bespin, but Cloud City would look so cool somewhere on the pin .
I don't think the artwork is anywhere near as bad as people made it out to be. When I saw it in real life, I was happy. I know it sounds trite, but the pictures don't do it justice. It doesn't look cheap at all ... just sparse (I'm almost wondering if Stern has a lineup of toys to add to the game ... that will torque me off if that's the case).
Just my $0.02.
I FINALLY picked up an LE. This game has come a long way from the early software days. It's frigging hard too (I know, play better ). I played a friend's premium about six months ago and was hooked.
This is going to be the first pin I've owned that I actually want to mod up. I blame each and every one of you on this thread for that. You are all evil!!!
One final note, Stern blew it with the topper for this game. Jagoffs. Does anyone make a surround/background for the topper by chance? I think it'd look really cool with a background that looks like the ones that were part of that figure display platform thing they made back in the 70s .
Also, does anyone know if the remnants of that "topper projector" feature still exists in the current software. I'm curious to see if there is a way to possibly hook up a pico projector to R2D2.
Quoted from ChipScott:
It looks like some kind of very thin grease.
For situations like this, I'd use silicone paste instead of grease. Grease is organic and breaks down over time. It tends to become a nasty solid.
Silicone paste will last almost forever .
I first started to use this stuff on brake caliper pins on my cars ... it's frigging awesome.
In terms of pinball, I recently used it sparingly on a flipper button that seemed to have a bit more friction that the other ... it worked great after that. I like to add a *tiny* dab of it on spinners too. And I mean "tiny" ... lubricants in pinball machines are a big no-no (using them on flippers is idiotic ... all of that coil dust + any kind of lubricant will create a sludge that you'll be cursing for years ). It's also great for things like gears in motors. It takes a LOT longer for it to break down compared to regular grease.
Again, don't go piling this stuff onto drop targets! Use little dabs on the head of something like a toothpick, apply it to the drop target, and use a smaller paintbrush to cover the surface you wish to cover. A little bit of this stuff goes a very long way. You'll also find other uses for it once you are addicted to it . Just *never* use it on flippers or coils (that's common pinball knowledge though).
Thanks for clarifying ... I often feel like I am the only one that likes the original art and doesn't care for the comic version ... I'm not right in the head though .
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
I prefer the comic art. I feel it is more true to pinball. Pinball is all about art.
I completely understand your point of view . The original SW art has a "sort-of hand drawn over photo" feel to it though and I prefer the font used on the playfield. To each their own though ... I am not criticizing anything. I used to automatically dismiss anything that looked "Photoshopped" ... that meant that I missed out on a Tron Premium back when they were announced ... man was I pissed when I played it for the first time . I learned to not be such a bigot when it comes to pinball artwork .
I tend to marvel at the engineering of some of the unique features in games. The Rudy head in Funhouse was some amazing work. While it looks so simple, it takes some amazing talent to make something like that work reliably at a relatively low cost. The hyperloop in SW (and HS2 for that matter) is another slick piece of engineering. That kind of stuff is art to me too .
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:
I also really like the fact my Comic Premuim is worth 2k more than it's older sister.
That's always a bonus ... and absolutely nothing wrong with liking that feature .
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