Can someone tell me how to adjust or help the fork ramp under the DS (that goes up and down) as the ball enter the back of it and stop it from slamming into the back of the fork before it has time to retract and allow the ball to exit back onto the playfield?

Does anyone else have any fixes for the DS shot? How did bending the ramp work out for the poster above?

A few of my thoughts on our awesome SWLE table:

Depth and theme integration on Star Wars Pre/Le and is very underrated by some because their vision of such an iconic franchise doesn’t match Stern’s stellar effort. Steve Richie gameplay is unmatched and the code is deep with many different ways to play, just like Batman 66.

Table is not empty by any means. Just look underneath and see a menagerie of electronics that power things on the top and at the back. You have to look at the back of the table too to appreciate how much has gone into this table. Many bullet points and the flow is amazing. My daughter feels like she is a champion playing it, even though a novice because it plays so well. We fixed left out lane drain issue with a different post in the same area, which creates longer ball times. Fixed the DS shot by slightly moving right post enough so ball goes right up DS ramp.

Steve laid out the play field to reflect the last big battle scene from the first movie. Should it have an xwing or two and couple more tie fighters? Yes and mods take care of that. Such a fun table and soooo underrated.

I suppose you did that fanfare through pinbrowser? Has anyone put together an alternate SW sound tracks for the game software?

I too love My SWLE. Very underrated game for sure! It should be ranked in the top 5 of all time!! It is only because it’s SW, that it ranks so low. People all have their own ideas about what it should look like, but Stern did a superb job re-creating the final battle scene on the playfield. Add a few fighters and you’ve got a stunning table!

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That is excellent! Thanks for sharing!

Are you able to give a list of the sound you used?

Does anyone else have this issue in Standard Adjustments? It goes from #5 standard adjustment being selectable, then jumps to #11? Cannot find standard adjustments #6, #7, #8, #9 and #10???

I wanted to adjust sling power, but it appears that adjustment is totally missing. Anyone else find this missing under S.P.I. Standard adjustment menu?

Get the premium with the pro back glass. Good idea. I like pro artwork, but with the back glass, you’ll never notice difference on the side art. Also, have an LE and love the play of the hyperloop and exploding DS. Both awesome mechs, plus the metal ramps are worth it alone. Pre/LE plays so well and is a blast to play, with that one more hit start button feeling.

Wow! Thanks so much for sharing all the work you’ve put into this PDF SW game strategy layout. It is amazing! How long did it take you to compile this? Love this type of detailed understanding. It will make a great game code, even greater. Understanding of what we are doing is key to enjoying the game and the difference between fun and just flinging the ball all over the place. Not only worth the read, but study is worth it too. You’ve kicked up my interest in my SWLE exponentially. Big Thanks again!

Vote SW, although JP is coming along nicely.

Don’t think you’re dreaming. Please email Stern and ask them to include the code/clips that was done for the SWHE and there is quite a bit more video in there. Maybe with the newly refreshed artwork, they’ll give us another code update if enough people ask for it.

Agreed that this game is very unfairly reviewed and rated here on pinside. Location players weigh in with low scores because game was not setup correctly or they don’t understand the awesome coding Dwight has done. Hence the low scores. Before purchasing it, I played on location and didn’t like it very much at all. Pulled the plunger 6 times and had 6 straight drains. Said to my friend, this game stinks and didn’t play it again till I was at a distributors location and could free play it as much as I wanted and got a little education from the dealer. Fell in love with it the minute red and blue light saber duel started. There was a while, this was my only game, so I know it quite well. It is an amazing game that keeps you coming back for more. Because it is a space scene, people think it is somewhat lacking in the toy department. But that’s not true.

The hyperdrive is a rush when multiple balls are flying around all at the same time. Look at all the gear behind the back of the table to make that happen. The fork that goes up and down for DS shots. The far right VUC, with targets at the end of each ramp. Spinner and “use the force shooter lane return mech. The DS that blows up with cool lights and animation. FORCE drop targets. Tie Fighter mech. Pop bumper field. PF screen information/scene instrument. Multi-level habit trails, with hyper drive habit trail diverter. Left lane up post. Millennium Falcon motor lights. And on and on: the game is loaded with toys and mechs. Unless in a home environment this game is severely under appreciated.

Luke is coded that way, to get more extra balls than the other 3.

The purist are probably going to have a fit, but putting in this Williams post has made the difference between a frustrating game and a dream machine. Let’s face it, the left lane drain is not good at all, even with the post all the way in, it still is unfair drain crazy. The post in the photo shows 2 of the screw holes being used. This Williams post creates similar geometry to the one added in the pro version. Don’t worry, the ball will still drain, but now it is a great deal more fun and fair. Family loves this one adjustment and now have a great time with an otherwise frustrating experience, unless your nudging skills are pro player level.

It is completely reversible without any changes to PF. It is a genius design done by a friend of mine. SWpre/LE is now so much more fun, can’t even begin to say how much more enjoyable it has become. The post floats above the PF. I think he could be talked into making more if anyone is interested. After installing that one post, the game has become family and friends favorite. Prior to that, no one hardly played it.
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Nice! This makes the game a pure joy to play. Without that post, the geometry on the left side of SW is baffling to me and cannot figure out why SR didn’t put this into the game to begin with. I think it is the single reason people rate this stellar game so low. I know I didn’t like it till my friend did the post to fix the geometry error. Now it plays like a wonder machine. With this left lane fixed, it should be ranked in the top five of all time. Certainly lots more game than any of the current old titles listed. I think those games get somewhat of a pass because of the nostalgic factor alone, although all good games.

Getting quite a few PMs from people interested in the SW left side post. How many additional people might be interested and I’ll ask my friend to make them. I know that post has made my game a keeper and a blast to play without the constant threat of cheap left hand drains, because of an unusually wide open gap on the LE/Pre left side, especially when the force drops are down. Let me know if you want one.

Shapeways won’t really work, because 3D printed is not as good as the real post, made with metal. It needs that for stability when the ball hits it. Gathering a list of interested people now and will let everyone know as soon as my friend figures out costs and shipping, etc.

Definitely don’t agree because the left lane drain geometry is unreal and not necessary to be in and of itself, cheating us the players. It works fine for location, so people pump in more dollars, but in the home, it is not cheating to improve the geometry on a gimped design. If that were not so, the first pros off the line wouldn’t have had the post there. I know it is said it was there originally because they were stand up targets instead of drop targets. Don’t believe that was the issue and think it was taken out to be a better money earner on location. When asked directly, even SR thinks we should all put the left lane post all the way down in position 3, which by the way is still not much of a difference on the unusually wider gap on the left lane drain.

So SR did design that post originally and then took it out, because it made the game easier when it was installed (not just for 3 year olds, lol). But I’m here to say, it still drains well with plenty of challenge, with the improved post installed. No “cheating” as you call it is involved. What is nonsense is how bad the layout plays with that left lane drain so unusually wide open (no other layout to my knowledge, on any other machine is that wide open). It becomes an even wider open spot, when the drop targets are down. Only expert players can enjoy this machine without that post in and even they have very short ball times. How is it cheating to fix the geometry and balance the game???

The right lane doesn’t have this issue, because there are no bank of drop targets directly above it and it also has the force lane drop down diverter. Is that cheating too? That improved left post gives balance to the machine layout. Now drains are more evenly matched. Don’t know what SR was thinking by removing the post that was originally on the pro. Again imo, it is a must to fix the poor geometry on the unusually and overly high drain rate on the left side. The way the ball shoots out of the reduced shooter lane and into the 3 bank target and deflects and drains straight to the wide open left lane, even baffles the best nudgers in pinball. That poor left lane design is cheating us players out of fun and the reason this machine is sold by numerous people after owning it a while. Becomes too frustrating to play it that way. To correct and balance the left lane with the right lane: simply is not cheating as you call it. Makes the machine fun and enjoyable. Anyone can check in diagnostics to see how unbalanced the drains are on the left side versus the right side. After that improved post is installed, left and right drains become more balanced. SW then becomes one of the top games ever made, by this simple and improved post.

So did I because they blend in well, depicting the space battle scene which Stern has created on the PF. Large faces, characters and such on the sides of that space battle scene, look out of place to me.

This is what is baffling about the top 100 and shows how meaningless it really has become. Why are the 25 year old games rated higher than modern games??? As good as they were, you’re right, they don’t hold a candle to modern day code, mechs, electronics, build quality, HD LCD immersive game play, HD sound, etc. The old games just don’t compare to SW, Bat66 or JP for example.

The only thing I can think of: it is the nostalgia factor that they are ranked higher. MM, AFM, MB, all great games in their day, but not even close to a modern day machine. MM castle is still one of the top mechs, but the T Rex in JP is definitely its equal. SW Hyperloop and Bat 66 Penguin crane is right up there too.

However, if you do a custom ranking of the past 6 months, the old games drop off. The games coming out now, are amazing! I’m blown away with the games of the past 4 years. Love the SW Comic edition. Next year is rumored to be even better with internet connectivity and such.

I’ve found that if you raise/adjust the left flipper up 2 degrees or approximately two dots from the dot on the table, it can be backhanded with the ramp up. Makes a big difference and instead of a dangerous difficult shot from the right flipper, it is made easier from the safe left flipper backhanded.

Also , the menu adjustment of the left flipper should be set to hard. I can make it all day long with the fork ramp up about 70% of the time.

1 hour video? I wouldn’t call that short. Skip to 50 minutes to see the 1 minute of Midnight Madness. Fortunately, I skipped till I found it, instead of watching for 50 minutes. Too bad it’s not still in the game. Thanks for posting the video.

SW has all the toys needed for a final scene space battle. I installed 3 additional HW tie fighters and 2 other branded X wings, plus a HW snow speeder. Makes the machine look full using Hot wheels mods and would satisfy most of the naysayers, I’d think. Stern loaded it with over 400 movie clips and SW music and sounds. Top 10 game imo and unfortunate how it is rated here. A fun, well coded game.

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Pinside rating system is a complete farce and no one should give it any heed. It is a rating system built on the false notion of popularity of old games versus the new games. Old games always rate higher, because people remember them from their childhood. New games get hammered and don’t stand a chance, because so many give low scores, unless they own them, to keep their golden child high in the ratings. No rhyme or reason to the rating system. Only the comments sections have some value, imo. Star Wars should be in the top 5 and yet ranks 40.

The only real barometer for any rating system is sales numbers and that we will never know, unless a company goes out of business. And I bet SW has sold more than all of them, by far. Biggest franchise in the business.

Sounds like 1 or more are not firing. Do all 4 lights above each magnet coil light up in succession as the ball is moving through magnets?

It would be interesting to see how it is flowing with the cover off. Still sounds like 1 or more are not firing correctly or an obstruction some where along the route. Check the whole habit trail. Also, is the upper right lane diverter working properly? Mine was not, so I had to take apart the coil and re-solder the joint.

Made it to the emperor only once in over a year of ownership, because the BobaFet mode seems to always cause ball drains and hate the flashing lights. Wish the flashing lights were programmed as an option. No one in my home likes that happening while trying to defeat the mode. It isn’t fun and just plain irritating.

However, it is great fun to just go for defeating the DS and getting multiple balls in the hyper loop.

It activates during the LCD asteroid game. Hitting the tie fighter. Blowing up the DS. Speeder bike chase? Can’t think of much else. Dwight didn’t seem to integrate much in the way of shaker, since the LE’s did not come with one, nor any of the other models either. Much of an afterthought it seems.

My guess is the coil on the underside of the table, that controls the upper right diverter that exits out of the hyperdrive, has a wire that needs to be re soldered. Pretty sure this is the issue. If you have a shaker motor, that wire notoriously comes off, that is on the bottom of the coil and will cause the diverter to be stuck in the open position when wire is not attached. That’s the reason for only one revolution.

If that is all okay, then move your ramp entering the DS up or down slightly. That is the entry point and can cause issues, if that is not adjusted correctly. There is an adjustment screw on the left side of the DS (underneath it, on PF topside). It is somewhat tricky to adjust, but after trying it up or down, you’ll be able to hone it in to work every time.

It is an issue with the ball not entering it as the first coil fires correctly and causing the ball to “stumble” and not hit the next firing coil(s) at the right timing. Had to do the same adjustment on mine. Keep adjusting up or down, till it catches the ball when entering just right and flings it around the 5 times before dropping out the diverter into the lower exit lane. Once balanced, it’ll work every time.