Does anyone have an under cabinet LED/flasher kit for Star Wars premium? I contacted the guy who made those for my other games([email protected]) which were awesome. He said he does make a kit for Star Wars but only for the pro. He said the version for the premium & LE did not work out for some reason. Once you put one of these kits in one of your games it has to be in all of them.

No responses so far so I guess that's a no for under cabinet LED/flasher kit for S.W. premium....bummer! Those kits are so cool. How about this... Anyone have a back box flasher kit for Star Wars? If so what do you think of it and where did you find it? Appreciate any help on this!

Yes I wondered the same thing. He said he has one for the Pro that works good but had issues with the premium/LE. Did not elaborate on why he could not make one but it did sound as if he had given up on the idea?
That back glass looks very nice. Do you turn off the factory LED's on the Stern board some how for this? I'm curious how you would add flashers to the premium back glass and tie them into play?

That sounds like an awesome idea for the LE back glass! I have the premium or I would be interested for sure. With this game people making back glass mod's are going to have to tailor kits for each version.

I agree with the others who have replied on this. No problems making the shot and no drains when it fails to make it all the way up the ramp. However: "Only a precise shot will set off a chain reaction and destroy the battle station". Personally that shot is one of the things I totally dig about this game...its difficulty! It makes it so satisfying when you make it. I dig the way the game can hold a ball in 4 different places to start modes and release them(death star, Hoth-inner loop, Endor - left ramp, and Tatooine - right Mystery scoop). The fork ramp being in the way(when up) when shot from the right side of inner loop....is annoying. I swear I read that mechanical issues were resolved in the 1.0 release notes. I guess it was talking about other issues. Then again it stated the delay between hitting the button to destroy Tie fighters and the annimation was fixed. I still see a delay in that but maybe its improved? Hard for me to say since I only played a few games on the earlier f/w version. While I am ranting anyone else get tired of being lectured by Yoda at the end of every single ball? How I wish they had just used random drain quotes and animations from the various movies for this! There are so many great quotes or even sound effects they could use for ball drains! Oh well...all this aside I want to make it clear. THIS GAME IS AWESOME! No regrets about getting the premium what so ever for me.
I would be amazed if they fix the fork ramp speed issue. I guess one way I am trying to look at this is if the ramp is up you should be shooting the death star instead of the right side of the loop. Of course that's the real trick isn't it...and its going to cost you something extra.

So I would turn off the flashers in the menu but the new ones from your kit would be on when ever the game is on? For the flashers you attach strips of LED's in certain places behind the B.G. on the new panel right? Are you saying I would choose these locations for the flashers and which flashers under the playfield they hook to? In other words can I choose what areas of the B.G. I want the flashers to (specifically) light up and which flasher circuit would activate each one? Then you would add them to the panel shown at your link and pre-wire it for me according to the layout I choose?

Noticed PinGraffix just released power blades for Star Wars. Pretty cool, animated side art(pin blades). Kind of thinking about getting them...but I can't really figure out the idea behind the art. Asteroids all lighting together and then going off, then streams of dashes going by, then partial planets light up then go off...then repeat. I don't know what to make of it? Curious what other's think of these here. I was hoping they would do power blades for Star Wars and make some sort of big space battle with ships all over. I think it would make more sense if the lighted parts were shots randomly firing from various ships. Maybe have some planets in the back ground that always remain lit. Heck even better....have random ships light up, fire at another, and that one explodes & disappears. The more random the better so that pattern does not grow old. Maybe I am over thinking all this. Here's a link for anyone interested:

https://www.pingraffix.com/so/3M4l5H5h?cid=aa4df3b7-2a25-44f6-ad15-e6e4c3b35457&region=6b8616f9-a670-48f0-df12-2272cdd93079#/main

Never even thought of that, now it makes more sense why they went so generic.

I thought the explosions were asteroids. You know if all the explosions didn't light up at the exact same time then go out all at once it would look much better. Same for the shots being fired. If they just reprogrammed it to have random shots and random explosions I think it would be much cooler. I would just leave the partial planets lit at all times.

I think the next best thing is some custom mirrors with specific art work. PinGraffics calls them blade skins. Tilt Graphics calls theirs game blades. Some of those are very nice looking.

Well put! This sudden interruption only needs to happen once. Heck even that sucks sometimes depending on what modes you are working on. The duel is really starting to annoy me because it interrupts my progress on the modes. I really hope they offer a way to opt. out on this or at least put it off. Especially if its already been done. It would be sweet if at the start of duel it gave you the choice to: left flipper - start duel, right flipper - opt. out. Then next time you get to mission select the duel becomes one of your choices.

Really, new modes as in different modes than the choices available first time through? Has anyone confirmed this? That would be out standing!

While on the subject of improvements to rules. I vote for Destroy the Death Star(final mode) to be a single ball mode instead of 2 ball. I have lost track of how many times I have started this only to watch it instantly end the second one of the balls drain. It does have a short ball saver but the 2nd ball does nothing but block your shots needed to qualify the death star shot(which is difficult, especially on premium/LE). It seems nearly impossible to keep two balls in play for any length of time on this game with these thirsty drains. I have yet to destroy the D.S. and I have had this game about 5-6 weeks!

Anyone else here get tired of being lectured by Yoda at the end of every single ball? I would pay extra to just have random quotes from the movie Trilogy instead of Yoda every single time. There is a ton a great material to draw from for this!

I do want to say I am not hating on S.W. here. I think this game is very good but feel it has potential to be kind of EPIC with some strategic tweaks.

That was hillarious. I think that song may be less painful than Yoda's insults in the game....ok maybe not.

Didn't even think of that. Problem solved. Slight rule change and it could be started from same place as normal when holding ball at lit Endor shot. Of course any other available mode could be selected too just like always(players choice).

I would love a setting for that too. Unfortunately I would say the chances of that happening are slim to none. The good news that I was unaware of until now is that you can add a ball. At least that is what some others were talking about. Sounds like the first thing to do next time Death Star Battle starts is attack the Force targets. That should light the button for add a ball. Try to complete both ramps next. Completing the ramps lights the death star. Then you just have to make a good shot into the D.S. without loosing more than 1 ball. As soon as this mode is down to one ball the death star goes un-lit and its over. If there was just some place you could get rid of the other ball for awhile on this game! Everything just spits it right back to you within seconds. If add a ball is not too difficult maybe its the key to this. Sounds like you just hit the button to add the ball once Force targets are completed. I like that because in theory you could wait until one of your two balls hits an outlane. Then hit the button and bring in another keeping the mode going. This may turn out to be really cool!

Thats good to know, thank you for posting this! I think someone said it lights up orange when add a ball feature is enabled. I know its red when tie fighters are attacking.

Sheesh...I guess I should look at the adjustments more. I didn't know you could adjust ball same time on the 4th level missions. I am really glad to hear that. I think I will try increasing it about 5 seconds more and see if that helps. I don't want to make it too easy either. But I do want it to be reasonable to achieve.
I admit I did put both my drains on narrowest settings. Normally I leave these at factory default(middle). This game still drains a lot out the sides on narrow. I do want to check my play field angle with a digital level to see if its 6.5 as so many recommend here. I don't have one so I just set angle by the small level included on the game. It's possible my angle is off making that Death Star shot even harder, especially since mine is a premium and you have to go up the narrow fork ramp. Sure is a blast though when you make a clean shot into the D.S. It's a tight shot but nothing like the Gem shot on Tron. That shot may as well be pure luck, ridiculously hard.

I would like to add a subwoofer to S.W.P. I don't see any for sale at pinnovator, just a kit to hook you own box? I don't want a sub on the floor, just a better woofer in the bottom of the cabinet. I ordered a kit for my S.T. from flipper fidelity which I don't like at all. The bass drowned out all voices & call outs so that I could not make them out. I put the original speakers back into the speaker panel and left the sub in the lower which helped a lot. It still does not sound right though and I am going back to 100% stock on S.T. and feel I wasted $150 plus shipping now. Is there any good kits that produce clear and balanced sound for these Stern games? Of course all these games need more bass but not at the expense of losing clear voice call-outs, etc. Any help advice really appreciated!

I did not talk with Mike. I guess I should call him. The game I tried the F.F. kit in was Stern Star Trek which is a SAM. I don't think I can try this kit it Star Wars because it is a Spike game. Not to mention I put speaker light kits in Star Wars so the F.F. speakers would be too deep to fit the speaker panel.

The kit I bought was from Flipper Fidelity. I think the sound was very muffled & muddy(lots of bass). Its better just using the sub and leaving stock speakers in the top but its still muddy and the bass is over powering the games vocals & call-outs.

Maybe I can use the 8" F.F. sub woofer that I got for my SAM Star Trek and put it in Star Wars instead(in place of factory 8" woofer). With the separate tone contols available on S.W. I may be able to adjust sound where I am happy. I should not need any kits to do this? For Tron & Star Trek I may consider sharing a sub on the floor shared by both games. I guess I would need two pinnovators sub mods(for SAM games). There seems to be a consensus here that Pinnovators kit with external sub is the best sounding. Thanks to all for your input on this topic. I was about to give up on trying to upgrade sound systems on my games after my previous experience.

Been there done that! This has to be one of the all time worst examples....DOOOOHHHHHHHHH!

I'm really glad you mentioned this one. I have never really stopped to think about the importance this feature. To date my high score on Tron is only ~ 125M. I have heard scores in the billions are possible on this game but its hard for me to believe from my experience. On top of that I have not made it to the Portal yet. In fact no one that has played my Tron has and I know a few well above average players. My style is to shoot around at what ever looks good at the time. I actually try not to start disk multiball for as long as possible so that I can do other things. There must be a lot to this game that we have been missing if people are really scoring in the billions.

Which ones are you referring to?

I was seriously looking at doing the same thing. What finally burned me out was trying to keep up with the hundreds of posts about various problems with JJPOTC. Quality issues of just about every kind seem to be on the owners thread. It's a very complex game and the last thing I feel like is getting another new game that needs lots of tweaking and repairs to keep it playing. Especially when it costs $9500 for the premium version. Problems included bubbles in the art work on cabinets, chipping on playfields, cable harnesses rubbing through to bare wires(too short), etc. Not just minor adjustment stuff, but unacceptable quality issues too. It's all on the owners thread but I got weary trying to keep up with it all(currently at nearly 600 posts). Very sad because I really liked a lot of things about the game. In the end its not worth dumping Star Wars to get it for me. Besides I have still not faced the Emperor. I have blown the death star many times(mostly Endor) though and its always a rush. I have he premium version which I think makes that harder to do but much more satisfying. The love or hate thing about this game to me is it takes strategy to master it. Not a good game for zoning out and just having a mindless escape. If you are not paying attention you will not get very far. It rewards those who patiently learn the rules and begin to build various strategies to accomplish them. There are many different ways to play it too which keeps its interesting. The depth of the rules, the difficulty, and the freedom to play it so many different ways is what I think make it such a great long term home game. I also prefer the "mode based" structure of the game which has great video/audio clips from the series to reward your progress.

Why would you need two, do you operate these games? It is an impressive game and I really had good impressions from the one I played. I loved the flow and variety of shots. My only negative impressions were that all the major multiball modes felt about the same to me. Also I wanted more differentiation between the chapters or whatever. I see little video/audio that feels different and progresses to a finish like mode based games. For example how S.W. modes feel so different because you see/hear video and audio clips from different movies and planets. I like how you see new progressing clips and audio with each successful shot all the way to a conclusion which is satisfying. I do want to put more time in on JJPOTC but nearest game is 2hrs away.

How do you know this? I mean I hope its true but the massive posts on the owners thread sure give me a different impression. I personally just have far less patience than I used to for repairing new games. Not to mention having to start over with the upgrades that I like to install. I have put about 2K of upgrades into my S.W. premium. To be fair Star Wars looked empty by comparison and badly needed some help. It took a long time to get everything I wanted ordered & installed including a full playfield protector from germany(to prevent dimples). It looks & plays so sweet now I don't think I can part with it. Believe me JJPOTC really got my attention and I would love to own it. I am in the same boat and need to sell one to afford another and have room for it. All the work of starting the whole process over is just too much to bare though.

Nice! Well you are obviously sold on the game to buy two. Do you know why the first one had so many problems and the second was so much better? Do you think the quality has improved? I really appreciate your input, thank you.

I know this has been stated multiple times on this thread but I think you are spot on. As an owner my biggest gripe is I almost never get to experience planet multiballs without forced interruptions. LSD should not be forced after first attempt even if you failed to complete it. It has stopped me from making planet multiball countless times due to sudden interruption and I lose ball 3 during attempt to finish, game over. After first failed attempt, the next LSD could give you flipper choice like: left flipper - opt out LSD, right flipper - continue LSD. It would be awesome if you opt. out then LSD became one of your available choices next time you get to choose mission. Next huge improvement for me would be stop tie fighter multiball images from taking priority over planet multiball images. Almost every time I have planet M.B. tie fighter interrupts and I never see any more images or info. about the planet multiball, only common tie fighter M.B. images. I would place opt. out of video mode option on the list too. However I would rather see a different video mode for Hoth intead(I know, dream on). And add an extra ball opportunity in video mode by replacing one of the asteroids with E.B. that you have to collide with to collect. Finally if end of ball quotes and sound effects from the entire series could be added it would improve game so much. Can you imagine how many cool quotes they could use for end of ball from different characters? The more the better! Who needs the Yoda lecture every single time? It's repetitive and annoying! Forget the Yoda end of ball screens if need be, and replace with generic EOB screen. These are not small gripes for me as an owner. I understand others dumping the game over this stuff. For me its the biggest love/hate part of S.W. The game could be so much more enjoyable with some tweaks to code. I am so on the fence right now about selling to get something like JJPOTC. I would hate to let this game go, it's so awesome otherwise. What are the chances any of this stuff might happen on a scale of 1-10? P.S. Does anyone know how to re-open the right gate? I would like to know all possible ways. Especially any that you can earn from shots, not just R2D2 random awards or something.

Were not saying get rid of it. Just ways to improve this already great game. Stopping and holding the ball on flipper kills the flow & action. A quick flipper choice only improves things. It already stops/holds ball for LSD into. anyway.

I'm not trying to change your mind about LSD and I understand your points. Especially about the game trying to beat you. However I think its a valid point of frustration for many. Having LSD, video, and other things high jack your game more than once seems unnecessary and repetitive. Delaying these interruptions at certain critical times would be very nice. I agree with you on two points though. This game does give you many choices making it very cool. JJPOTC gives you something like 20 characters to choose from. However each character only gives 1 slight rules advantage. Far less significant than the many differences the four S.W. characters make to rules & pre-lit modes. And yes I doubt Dwight will change it. But lets keep some faith like Leia: "Help us Dwight, your our only hope".

Haven't looked at the ratings on S.W. for awhile. It's already down to 33! I wonder if it's going to fall completely off the top 100? I think its a hugely under appreciated game.

Anybody know how to re-light escape(right outlane)? I know that it is occasionally one of the choose your path choices. I am assuming there is a way to earn it though.

Thank you so much for this information! I have had this game a year and somehow managed to not figure out how to light escape.

Hey thanks so much for this info. I know they make cell phone apps but I wanted an actual digital level but have been unable to find one. One angle cube is on the way!

Has anyone reverted to previous firmware? A week ago I updated to 1.05 from 1.03. Unless its a coincidence I have been noticing problems with speech attenuation all of the sudden. Whats weird is it only happens on certain missions. What I have noticed is the voices during fourth mission multiballs are almost a whisper compared to other sounds/speech going on. I am referring to mission specific speech like when the emperor says: "Now witness the fire power of this fully armed and operational battle station". Also certain speech during other missions is way too low. I noticed a big difference in the death star mission where Luke yells: "I got him" as he destoys a tie fighter with the cannon. I can barely even hear it now while other speech and sound effects are loud. I tried to play with speech attenuation but it affects all speech. I wanted to revert back to 1.03 to see if things would be normal but the game does not even see any files on the USB stick that has 1.03 on it. It only acknowledge firmware that is equal to or newer than what is currently installed.

I can't believe your the only one to mention this. This is probably what bothers me the most about this game right now. You work so hard to get to a planet multiball and the voices are at whisper level? I can barely hear the emperor talking. Other sounds are very loud by comparison. Including his laughing during tilt warnings(which I think is awesome). I agree, nothing sucks the excitement of an epic moment worse than muted sounds. And inevitably I accidentally start a tie fighter hurry up every time I reach planet multiball only to see clips blocked by stupid hurry up points count down take over entire screen! This should be displayed at same time(super imposed) as planet clips. There is no reason this can't be done!

I just realized I should have read further before making my last post. It's obvious some others are bothered by certain sound mix problems and A/V priorities. In particular mission clips are frequently interrupted and audio is drowned out by loud sound effects and other common features such as hurry ups, etc. I think this game could be so epic with polish. The hurry ups could be re-located to the small screen so as not to interrupt missions. How ever just super imposing them into the mission screens somewhere would be much better. My guess is the chance of Stern doing any of this at this point is about one in a million. This death star run mix was incredible. How much does it differ from what is in current code? Can all of the missions mixes be fixed? Is there any way to change video priorities in this game? If missions could be made to always take priority of screen I would be thrilled. You still have playfield inserts to indicate hurry ups anyway. No need to block all clips just to show a hurry up count down.

The music in the Luke vs Vader demo is a song called Castle Walls by Styx(70's rock band). I actually thought it was pretty interesting and fit kind of well. I would like to hear it with the music from the movie(Empire Strikes Back) though. I can't even remember right now what Stern used for this. In any case some interesting things are possible with PinballMIX.

I am very interested in knowing more about how to order from you. Tried looking at your page but Facebook wants me to log in before showing me anything. Sorry, I don't do Facebook. Do you have another way to view the information about this?

I think a lot of people would be interested in this. Not to mention fixing the muted voices during all missions. Not all missions or call outs have a problem. It certainly is obvious when you hear one though. Maybe we should start making a list of the missions and call outs that are muted.

I think the music from the huge space battle during the end of Return of the Jedi would be more appropriate. If you are serious about this though PinballMIX obviously can do that for you. I think most people feel the teddy bear stuff got a little out of control in ROJ. The space battle and simultaneous battle between Luke, Vader, and the Emperor totally redeemed it though.

Those mixes are not what I am looking for. I understand someone wanted to customize their game but those sound so out of place to me. Is there any chance you will be putting music scores used in actual movies for each mission? Can you fix the call outs in modes that are not loud enough? I think if you did something like this many folks here would be interested in purchasing. I am looking for improving what is there now but maybe adding some movie scores that fit well to various modes. Is there a chance you could offer a "generic" Star Wars improvement mix along these lines that many could purchase from you? With many interested could you offer it at a lower price to each person?

You posted this just before I finished my last post and answered everything before I asked. I understand, thank you.

I turned stacking off very soon after getting my premium over a year ago. I want to experience all missions one at a time for the very reasons you mention. I am sure it has a large effect on ones scoring potential. And yes the chances of even getting to the Emperor are reduced drastically. That said I think its worth it. At least for a HUO game. I offset the huge difficulty increase by opening up other rules somewhat. I set replay award to extra ball and increase max extra ball count to 5. Maybe increase some ball save timers a bit(5-10 sec). Also add a tilt warning. There are lots of other options. That said I'm sure completing the game is still way easier with stacking. I have not come close to the Emperor yet. That's my one regret from turning stacking off.

Good point! You just won't get the option to stack any missions when you reach mission select. Ignoring the stacked missions would be about the same as having it set to off in other words.

That was much better. It opens with very brief ominous "Empire" type score then goes into something else that is not related to Star Wars. However it did fit the urgency of the mission quite well. Question: Could you replace the sound effect Stern used to indicate the shot multiplier timer is about to expire(the sort of knocking sound)? I find that sound effect really annoying. There has to be something from one of the movies that would sound much better than that.

That is outstanding, love it! It is totally seemless. Is the sound track different only for ball play between missions? In other words is there custom music for some of the missions too? How did you do this? P.S. You are an awesome player. That was a joy to watch. It's a great demonstration of what an awesome game Star Wars is.

Thanks very much for sharing! That was a great game by the way. I like most of the music. Not so much on the Escape Bobba Fet or select mission. It sounds unbalanced though. The music is loud and mission call outs are mostly muted. In between mission call outs are loud though. Like "shoot the hyperspace ramp", etc. I have noticed this about the factory firmware. I wish this was the opposite. Mission call outs louder and common call outs muted down some. I don't need C3PO screaming "go for the hyperspace ramp" at hiked up volume. That gets very old on a HUO game. I can see that being reasonable for location games. A balanced volume level for all call outs would be much better though.

Glad to hear PinballMIX is going to level everything for you. I am very interested in hearing how this turns out for you. I would be very great full if you could share how that turns out. The unbalanced call outs are one of the things that bother me most about this excellent game. The way hurry ups and other things take priority over all mission audio/video(including planet multiballs) is the other. At least there is hope to fix the audio leveling(muted call outs) in the game. I wonder if anything could be done to keep mission audio/video as top priority by editing the code? At least for planet multiball's anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if hurry ups, tie figher multiball, etc. can even over-ride audio/video during battle the emperor. I have never got that far in part because I have mission stacking set to off. Is Jedi multiball the same as battle the emperor?

Very thorough investigation! I think it's so cool how many ways there are to approach this game. The variety will keep it interesting for a long time. I had no idea some shots do not get multiplied. Are you saying that you could have a 40X multiplier qualified, shoot a lit shot, and not get any extra points for the shot? If so it seems like the green lit multiplier inserts should change to some other color(like yellow) to indicate they will not count at that time. Very good observations!

Amazing score! I have to say thank you for posting this. I know lots of others here have said to put pitch to 6.5. I assumed mine was in the ball park. Finally got a digital level and found it at 5.5. I could not back hand the Death Star on my premium. Did exactly what you said here and spent lots of time to make sure the game is absolutly level side to side and at 6.5. Incidently the factory bubble level is exactly in the middle on my game at 6.5 deg. What a change! I have had my game about 1.5 years at the wrong pitch with stacking off too. I am getting way farther now and less cheap side to side drains. Once in awhile the mystery scoop sends ball SDTM but ball save kicks it back in. Which flipper should the ball land on from the scoop? I thought with stacking off I would never get to Emperor but now I have real hope. I completed 3 planet MB's and got close on the last(D.S.) which had no missions spotted. I still have not been able to backhand D.S. How do you guys do it? Does the ball have to have some momentum on the left flipper? Another question: Is what people here call battle the Emperor the same thing as Jedi multiball? Anyway game is way more enjoyable right now. No question for me stacking off is the way to go. This game is always challenging but what a blast. I totally understand the love/hate thing people talk about with Star Wars. I had some times I considered selling it for something less frustrating. This game really rewards you when it is set up proper and you start to understand the complex rules.

Good question. Thats whats strange. Since I had no digital level I originally set up the game by the factory playfield level centering the bubble between the lines. Sometime later I noticed the bubble had drifted down. The game never gets moved and sits in exactly the same place on carpet. Leg nuts were locked in place too. I wonder now if the playfield was not all the way down completely when I initially setup the game. It could have changed after I lifted the playfield for something and then re-seated it. Anyway its dead center now and my digital level indicates 6.5 exactly.

Is this everything? I know you can also set replay award and special award to extra ball. I like to do this on home games. I think it's especially fair on this game when mode stacking is set to off.

Anyone else notice voice call-outs during planet multiball modes are muted to the point they are almost impossible to hear? Even with volume set loud. This happens to me on: Destroy the Death Star, Battle above Endor, Escape from Hoth, and Escape from Tattooine. I am talking about vocals and call-outs Specifically pertaining to those modes. Any other callouts which occur during the Planet MB modes which are unrelated remain at normal volume. It’s really a let down to reach a Planet mode and not be able to hear anything. What was Stern thinking?

Mine is premium, v1.05

If you’re talking about me… Definitely no hate here! Just disappointment about those awesome modes that I can’t hear. I love that Stern put so many movie assets into this game. They did excellent in that regard! The planet MB modes are my favorite, and most exciting to me. Is it OK to want to hear them too? I agree with you. I think Star Wars is hugely underrated. It’s probably the deepest, fastest, and most challenging pin I’ve ever owned. It definitely makes you a better player. The huge amount of intellectual property in the game, and the many different ways to play it keep it exciting. It is ALWAYS challenging to play. And if you are moving the playfield multiplier around between shots at that speed… We’re talking Next level stuff! This game deserves better than 49th place.

Thank you for checking this! I have been carefully examining code updates in the README files to see any mention of fixing this problem. That’s why I have not updated. I don’t like to lose all high scores and other settings each time I update. I know for a fact that the volume on all these modes used to be normal. That’s why I miss it so much. Sounds crazy, but that background chatter while making a run on the death star made me feel like I was in the cockpit. I think the problem happened on v1.03. This is from the README file: “ Improved the volume of several sounds and speech calls”. It’s the only time since I’ve seen volume concerning sounds/speech mentioned in code updates. I hear of people getting into the code and tweaking things. Makes me wonder if it’s possible to put those settings back to normal?

I know, this game has taken a lot of heat. I think a lot of it was because there was few toys/mechs. I have to agree it looked a little underwhelming on the surface. But you gotta get into this thing to appreciate it. Steve designed it for crazy fast action. Welcome to the S.W club! You won’t be disappointed.

It’s definitely on all planet MB’s on my game. I think people have not noticed it because their games are newer, and never experienced version 1.02 or earlier. It’s hard to miss what you never experienced. All kinds of great quotes, sounds, and chatter are there in those modes. Stuff that helped build excitement, like: “Death star approaching”. “ Watch for enemy fighters”. “There’s too many of them”. “Get set up for your attack run”. “All right kid let’s blow this thing and get out of here “. “Great shot kid that was one in a million”. Now you just can’t hear them anymore. It was so much better before they muted all that. Obviously I have never gotten over it. I’m with you on writing Stern to fix. Hope many others would be too. Unfortunately most don’t know what they’re missing I think. It’s gonna take more than one or two to get them to do anything about it at this point. We need as many as possible to write them. Nice catch on that other bug!

Love this game, have a premium in my collection since 2017 release. It still amazes me that a significant software glitch affecting all games has not been addressed though. There are many modes where the call outs are so muted you can barely hear them no matter what volume level you have sound set at. It even affects at least 2 of the major planet multiball modes! Death Star P.M.B for Endor, and At At attack for Hoth. May also affect Tatooine P.M.B. mode(been a long time since seeing that one). It for sure affects Death Star Mission where Luke fights enemy fighters with rear cannon on M. Faulkin. No doubt others too. Not sure about final Mission vs Emperor, never made it that far. Such a let down to fight your way to P.M.B and not be able to hear call outs. I’m talking about the movie chatter that makes the mode exciting. Stuff like “We have to give them more time to get those shields down”, “Watch for enemy fighters”, “I got him!”, etc. Wondering if anyone else has noticed significantly muted call outs during play? Can this be fixed using the pinball editor program? Don’t think Stern is going to get to it, after all it’s already been 7 years!

Yes, here’s what I said about it here in post#6844 4yrs ago:
“Has anyone reverted to previous firmware? A week ago I updated to 1.05 from 1.03. Unless it’s a coincidence I have been noticing problems with speech attenuation all of the sudden. Whats weird is it only happens on certain missions. What I have noticed is the voices during fourth mission multiballs are almost a whisper compared to other sounds/speech going on. I am referring to mission specific speech like when the emperor says: "Now witness the fire power of this fully armed and operational battle station". Also certain speech during other missions is way too low. I noticed a big difference in the death star mission where Luke yells: "I got him" as he destoys a tie fighter with the cannon. I can barely even hear it now while other speech and sound effects are loud. I tried to play with speech attenuation but it affects all speech. I wanted to revert back to 1.03 to see if things would be normal but the game does not even see any files on the USB stick that has 1.03 on it. It only acknowledge firmware that is equal to or newer than what is currently installed.”

Since that update(1.05) problem has remained with all newer versions

I am surprised more people have not noticed this. At least 2 others here have though. Here is from Jerickso77 post# 7050 also about 4yrs ago:

“It's a real bummer that the planet multiballs have some of the best clips in the game but they're mixed so low you can barely hear them. Really sucks the momentum out of an epic moment.”

Looked into that but setting affects all speech. This problem is software related. Individual missions need re- attenuation, not all. I think someone who knows how to use pinball editor would have to go into specific missions with problem and increase the speech volume level.

Could not find anything regarding above subject from Xaqery? Do you know post# or where to see?

I think the problem is easiest to notice on Escape from Hoth P.M.B. Speech is so low you might not know there ever was any on earlier versions. Owners who didn’t have 1.03 code(or older) have not experienced what normal was like. That my explain why a lot of people have not noticed it who have newer games. Don’t know what they’re missing. It was so sweet before! I strain to hear anything now on Hoth. You know, all of the chatter between Luke and the others attacking the imperial walkers.
If you want to get there quick choose Han Solo. Two blue missions will be lit to start. Consentrate only on dark blue inserts(arrows) until Hoth is lit. Choose remaining blue mission which will be video mode. When done shoot Hoth and choose escape from Hoth. Good luck hearing any speech from Luke or other characters in the mission. When that mission ends 2 Endor missions are lit. Complete the 3rd and start Endor multiball. You can hear speech, mostly from Calrissian. It’s way quieter than it was originally thought.

Very Nice, thank you! It would be awesome if Stern fixed this and it doesn’t have to happen using P.B. editor. I think Stern could determine what happened after 1.03 that messed up mission specific speech attenuation on certain missions. I’ve been hoping it would happen for years. Can’t believe Steve Richie didn’t notice and want it fixed? I would think he has this game in his collection? And by the way, it’s such a great game! So underrated IMHO.

I tend to agree. If you want to reach Hoth and Endor for sure. Just choose characters on ball 1 and watch which mission inserts are pre-lit for you.

R2D2 has always been my favorite. I like to attack the Death Star. He spots two D.S. missions and two Endor missions. Completing both gives two chances for an attack run on the D.S. I did not notice R2 awarded multipliers easier!

For sure, those custom C-3PO call outs suck. Especially the one during bounty hunter where he says “We are being followed” in a wimpy voice that sounds like he’s about to cry. I would like to see that one removed.

It’s so nice to hear someone else think this is worth mentioning. I wish someone who understands how to use the pinball editor could investigate the volume settings for planet multiball background speech. I just know those could be edited to increase volume. It’s all about having some knowledge about how to edit the code settings. Having experienced those planet multiball modes before Stern chose to mute the background vocals, I can tell you there’s no comparison. They really did manage to suck the excitement out of the most epic moments in the game. I am virtually certain Stern is not going to address this. It will take a pinball tech type, probably who really likes this game. PoMC maybe?