Okay... let me try this the other way.

Does anyone own Black Knight: Sword of Rage

If so...thoughts if you were to compare these two?

Thanks!!

Wow that is super creepy!

Having both the DE SW and a Stern Premium, I appreciate both styles. It would be neat to be able to have a comic version of the translite that I could frame (pro version). I currently have the Pro translite (first version) on my Prem, and the Prem translite framed.

I don't have a Star Wars yet, but I've been lurking regarding a Premium / LE. I actually prefer the comic art quite a bit. I actually kinda hate getting NIB games, so buying new is not in itself a positive for me. So, the debate becomes the comic version I like better, versus a heavily discounted HUO old art. I had been looking at HUO LEs, and a new comic Premium is about the same as a HUO old art LE. Hmm...

I love my LE. I bought it HUO. I think it looks great when you light up the siderails but I also like the original art better.

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I am gonna go with the original art preference. The machine is based on a movie and all the comic stuff came way later.

When I first saw videos and played SW I was angry. It was not the game I wanted. I wanted a game with lots of mechs. Think AFM and blowing up Death Star MM style.
Hated the multipliers, the code was to complicated. Cheap drains and so on.

Played several different SW pro and premium that was perfectly set up at pinball universe in Germany. Fell in love with the game.
My Premium will soon be at home. Can’t wait!

I wish there was a mode that actually made you hit all of the drops individually. All of them just make you hit any drop and then resets the bank

I’m confused. Yes, certain missions, the drops reset when you hit one, but in order to spell FORCE, you have to drop all for every letter.

Right but you kind of just spell FORCE as you play. I never find myself actually trying to target it. I meant in an actual mode like cloud city duel.

Ah, yup. There’s a lot of wishing...but the code is pretty complete. As far as Stern goes, I’m really happy with it. And, if you concentrate on that shot...it’s actually quite satisfying...difficult to complete on purpose.

Unfortunately art is the main difference with the LE. The only other extras you get are; side rails, powder coat, 3 translites, a signature, and a serial #.

I would pick the art package you like the best and go with that. If I was buying a SW now, I would buy a used LE. I think it has the best art package out of the 5 and I really like the gloss black powder coat look and feel. It’s much better than the crinkle coat on the other models.

Is it just me or dumb luck but I seem to get more extra balls while playing as character Luke than anyone else?

I don't have any spike games. How have these held up? Node boards etc? Depth and lastability for replay value?

Luke is coded that way, to get more extra balls than the other 3.

Ah thanks, that's why I just got 3.4 billion, have been playing mainly as Han... Thanks

Thinking of selling my premium. Game is HUO and I’m the second owner. Has a ton of upgrades. Game is in CA and figure I’d post here first. Would trade for another stern spike 2 game.

- invisiglass
- shaker
- lit star destroyer
- mod couple light kit
- cliffys
- lit Star Wars missing worlds with custom paint, see pics.
- plastic protectors
- center button stainless steel trim

There’s other stuff I’m forgetting but that’s the main items. Plays perfect. PM me if interested in trade or outright purchase.

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BKSOR is way harder, not as deep a rule set and not as much flow as SW. Prepare to get an ass kicking and be taunted continuously with BKSOR, with the premium/LE the flail ramp can be hard to make also if not set up right.

I like the black version the best.

The black might even look good in the originals?

I like the black too, but it looks like the stock art on the back panel has a blue background, so it looks odd to me seeing the side panels with black colored space and the back panel with blue colored space. I might be tempted to go blue just to make it all match.

Are you selling the mods or the whole pin? Photos looks like you're just selling the mods. If so, how much?

Darn it, I also like that Pro comic book/bed sheet art way better than the Premium comic book/bed sheet art, but I want a Premium playfield. Wonder who I could bribe to build me a Premium in the Pro cabinet?

That seems to be said a lot

Maybe tell your distro. That’s what I’m doing.

Stern listened with Metallica. Maybe they will do the same again.

I feel so strongly about a Premium PF in a Pro cabinet that I can’t pull the trigger on buying the damn game. One because I want the pro cab. Two because I know after I settle Stern will offer the exact config I wanted. So now it’s paralysis by analysis & lusting for info on “the next game” lol

Stainless laser cut lockbar plates still available for purchase in the store section.

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IMO *BOTH* comic art packages look great but to me the premium looks better but I'd be happy with either.

My problem is should I buy SW or DP :<

I need some help here. I’m really not a fan of Stern pinballs but that seems to be changing in the recent months. I just purchased my first NIB Stern (an Elvira LE) because it was a dream theme for me. I played Star Wars on location but never consider buying one until I saw the new comic package. I’m a Star Wars kid and that new old school art looks pretty darn good to me. I thought the game played good (I’ve only played the premium) but the new art is making me a possible buyer. Actually I like the pro art better but they both look great. The money difference isn’t and issue. Which one is the better long term player?

Play each one if possible before you decide. Nobody can tell you which is better.

Ask your distro if the Premium PF can be put in the Pro cabinet. That's what several of us are requesting (I think).

Stern will either accomodate the request or make it an option for all or decline it.

The next game will be announced soon anyway which might be even cooler than a premium PF in a Pro cabinet. Maybe.

So I'd wait a bit & see what happens. Stern modified art & options on ACDC, TWD, Munsters, Star Wars & Metallica IIRC so its a high likelihood they will offer what buyers want if enough ask.

Can you all explain why you think the pro art is better?

That’s easy for me. It is a throwback to the original Star Wars poster. The entire cast is in their hero stance with the bad guy looming behind. Very cool. The other one is kind of one sided being all bad guys. I still like it but prefer the throwback look.

They are both good, but I like the premium art just a bit more.
The pro cabinet featuring Darth Vader looking away from Luke and Bobba Fett before he was eaten just wasn't as appealing as the premium featuring Rebel Luke & the Deathstar battle.

Whoops...

looks like the art package from Stern and pinball news don't match up... glad I checked.

https://www.pinballnews.com/site/2019/10/07/stern-show-re-arted-star-wars/

I see now. I like the Premium trans light but the pro cabinet more.

This is so tempting.

You should check my site also.

https://pinballsupernova.wordpress.com/2019/10/04/news-stern-releases-new-comic-book-artwork-for-star-wars-pinball-machine/

The Pro cabinet has all the main charachters & all the ships. It's 100% Star Wars 100% represented. No stone left unturned.

The premium is cool but its not as "Star Wars" as the Pro. If that makes sense. I like the premium cabinet. I love the pro cabinet.

Really not sure I can throw down $7500 for a cabinet I don't love. Plus if I do Stern will just fuck me over & release it 6 mos later the way I want it.

I’m agreed now with the pro cabinet.

I definitely enjoy the Pro art the most, particularly the backglass. Something about the other two (as well as the new comic versions) just don't have that same vibe as the original films IMO.

EDIT: I'm referring to the original art, I missed the context of the discussion

Ah, rumor is Stern refuses to put the premium PF in the Pro cabinet

They did it for Metallica, not Star Wars?

Guess I will focus on JP instead. It’s cool looking.

Will wait for code to hit 1.0 first tho. But... by then something else more exciting will be announced & I can wait for that one to reach 1.0 instead & then the cycle continues as something else more exciting will be announced lol

EDIT clarity for Gary:
I want the premium playfield in the pro deathstar cabinet.
Drop me a PM when you get that done.

To be honest I like the premium trans light but pro cabinet. Does Stern sell translite alone? Does it look like it would go with the pro cabinet?

The premium cabinet has weird perspectives with Vader and Luke on one side apparently not in the same scene. And Boba Fet eaten by a sand worm on the other. Just not as cool as space battles on the pro.

Is anybody more considering the new art even if you can get a used one for less with the old art?

I’m not decided on pro v premium so might just get the pro to start.

I have the premium translite on the pro, I like it a lot. You cant see the sides of mine though.

This is exactly what I'm debating. The Pro is fun, but the metal ramps are so smooth and the hyperloop is too cool. So, as prices have been coming down, I had been thinking of getting an LE because I like the lit up side rails (requires a kit). But I honestly like the new art better. Unless I got a downright steal, I'd probably always wish I had the comic art instead, so I'm probably waiting until I can pick up a HUO comic art Premium.

I received my Star Wars premium yesterday brand new. It’s a great game. my son who is 17 years old thinks it’s the best People who don’t like the game are out of their mind. what are they looking for??? It may not be the easiest game in the world but if you want an easy game then buy monster Bash.

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I played it for about two hours I’m not really sure what I’m doing but I’ll figure it out. All the modes are cool, the death star shot is difficult. Overall it’s one of The better games I’ve played.

I like to get a great deal (better deal used) but to me half the point of a pinball machine is the looks (sound and vision) and the art is a big part of that. I can't say any of the art packages look bad but the comic art is more to my liking.

It is very subjective. I like the pro translite but I can’t stand the rest of the comic art. I much prefer the old style. I just bought an original premium. It comes Saturday. Stern is smart though because there are many people that love it. So this gives them greater sales and they can use the same exact machine all they have to do is replace the art package. Pretty smart marketing IMHO. You can say what you want about Stern but their marketing department is brilliant.

Am I the only one that thinks after 2 yrs waiting this looks like they just cut up a window unit and glued an R2 head on it¿?