Thanks for this summary! I've only had STLE for a few days, but I'm already bumping into several of these.

My Premium is hopefully coming tomorrow, thanks for bumping this, missed it the first time.

Can someone tell me exactly what mini post super band rubber I should order from Marcos to put on ST LE?

For those of you that have upgraded to these, did you replace every single black mini-post rubber with one? What colors did you use?

SR made it sound like he would have used them everywhere:

I don't recommend the use of post sleeves on the mini posts in place of the rubber donuts. Sleeves have too little rebound for my tastes, and they don't belong on ST. "Says who?" Says The King! You can use sleeves, but I will laugh and jeer like the Black Knight when I see your game.

There are some great new urethane post, mini post and flipper rubbers (Super Bands) available from Marco that are super durable and provide great rebound. They are manufactured by C.U.E. led by Joe Scalleta, and come in a full range of colors and styles. I wish I knew about them and not sure they were even available before ST production; I would have specified them on all models. They show no wear at all after hundreds of fun plays in my testing.

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Thanks.

I replaced everything on mine with super bands. I used the clear ones for the flippers and posts.

Would you mind taking some pics? I'm curious as to what colors look best...

Thanks for this thread, and I'm also very curious on which color other people chose.

Those look great. I'll have to count up my posts when I get my machine and put in an order.

I can't find the post that had a link to those post rings can someone link me to them.
Thanks

I need to get my eyes checked

Thanks for the pics. Do the clear super posts fly off the posts pretty often like the regular old black ones or do they stay put?

I played 15 games on my pro today with new black flipper rubber and 15 games with orange superbands

My score averaged about 3.5 Million more with new black rubber

The scoop shot seems very difficult with the superbands.

Although the away team shot was made more consistently with superbands

Just an observstion

Those look great! Is this the size I need for all of them? Any of them a pain to get to?

Cool thanks, got a premium so may not have the ramp issue?

Ok so my drop target was randomly dropping on my STLE (with out being hit) so I went into test function and it works perfectly but it is so sensitive that if you blow hard on the target it would drop. Someone had posted pics of the drop target assy and showed where stern says you have to tweak the bracket a little. I can't find the thread where this adjustment was mentioned can anyone link to it?

FYI I have had two superband mini post rubbers break on my location ST. That said, regular ones break just as often, but they are a hell of a lot cheaper. They are always the two on the entrance to the warp ramp. Those just get obliterated by the upper flipper. The left entrance post is already bent as well.

On another note, I can not get my warp ramp adjusted properly to save my life. I can never get a consistent feed off of it no matter what kind of adjusting I do to its position.

http://www.sternpinball.com/SB/ServiceBulletin_165.html

Thanks Shock_me! I just did the washer trick and it still seems to glitch a little. I am gunna check my optos tomorrow.
If any one has an ST with a randomly resetting drop target let know what you did for a fix.

Perhaps posts with sleeves may be needed? Mine have not split but I've had them fly off way too often no matter how new the ring is.

I know Steve Ritchie isn't a fan of the post sleeves, but I am growing tired of putting new rings on those posts once a week.

I'm sure the Superband product will give you the best of both worlds. I've tried post sleeves as a replacement on other pins and I've noticed they don't play as well (so I agree with SR on this issue).

Are you referring to the black rubber ones that came on the game, or the Super Band ones?

No problems withe the super band post rubbers. Over a month with 100 games+

I think I'm going to order a bunch of clear ones.

My TNT targets on ACDC were resetting without the targets even dropping. I reflowed solder on the connector pins on the opto board as well as some questionable solder on the optos themselves and problem solved

So the post sleeves are not recommended... Well, I am in any case planning on installing narrows posts in front of the ramps, since I have already chipped a piece off of one of the ramps:

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/chipped-a-piece-of-st-pro-ramp-should-i-protect-it-now-somehow

Narrow posts should provide more protection than just the installing of post sleeves, even though it would be a bit of mixing WMS parts with Stern parts

I am using the Superband post rubbers right now and I have had 2 break in a week. At a $1 each, I am going to try something else.

Man, that sucks. I thought the Superbands were durable. 2 break in one week? That's worse than standard rubber.

Not what I wanted to here as I just ordered 20 of them

Hopefully I just got a bad batch or something.

Both standard that came with game and standard black ones purchased from pinball life (not the super bands).

I've put posts on XM and have no issues with them it seems like they even reduced air balls a little. So I may just go that route again. ST Pro is probably one of the fastest pins I've ever played I doubt having posts installed is going to change gameplay or slow things down noticeably.

I put the same cliffy post I did for xmen on my STLE warp entrance. Much better results and less air balls! And I don't have to replace a rubber every other game : lol:

But be warned, removing the post is a b*tch! Hard to get to and threaded in the wood so you gotta unscrew it completely.

Thanks for the info SKB, I always assume changing something out is going to be a pain in the ass that way if it is I'm not surprised but if it's easy I'm pleasantly surprised.

Will a Williams post fit there? I have a bunch of those lying around but no Stern ones.

These games certainly weren't designed to easily swap stuff like rubbers, posts, plastics, etc ... I installed plastic protectors and Cliffys today. It was a pain in the ass, and I didn't even bother with the big protector that goes under the Warp ramp, or the one that goes all the way under the Vengence. Just to get the VUK Cliffy installed you have to unscrew about 20 screws and remove a good portion of the left playfield.

Are those Super-Band mini post rubbers from PBL flat on one side and rounded on the other like the ones I got from Marco? What side do you put facing upwards?

I had the flat side facing up.

I think the flat side is supposed to face down.

Since I wrote one of the tweaks posts, I should state that with the latest software version, it is no longer necessary to tie strap open the left orbit gate. The software does a decent job of keeping it open as needed.

Hey Gwempose,
The Pinbits plastic protector under the Vengence is pretty easy to install. just remove the front 2 screws on each side of the entrance, then there are 2 screws holding the back of the right plastic in between the 2 left bumpers. Once you remove the right side plastic, just slide the plastic protector under the left plastic, then replace the right plastic and all screws. That's it and no more air balls!

Hope this is helpful.