Three Versions
Pro Version: $5,395 (MSRP)
Premium Version: $7,495 (MSRP)
Limited Edition Version: $8,795 (MSRP)

Features list: http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/Games/startrek/Star%20Trek%20Pinball%20Features.pdf

Pinball News Link: http://www.pinballnews.com/games/startrek/index.html

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I figured this would have been up already but the video post on facebook was 7 seconds old so I thought, hey why not.

I'm pausing all over the place trying to grab screens of the PF

Ummm yeah cause AFM has a third flipper on the right, side shot ramps and standups, and a VUK shot on the left.

I'm not convinced it's as original as Avengers in layout, but it's not an AFM clone.

in case no one spotted it yet (thread's growing fast)

0:32

KICKBACK ON THE LEFT OUTLANE

Haha im already compiling

Site is wicked slow but I'm trying to update the main post. No VUK on the pro by the looks of it? Anyone noticed that?

I find the least appealing feature is the playfield artwork and overall look... The top of the PF looks fine - industrial, somewhat cold, dark... then as you move towards the flippers everything gets very 'pastel' and soft. I think it would have done wonders to keep the artwork very crisp and 'tech' with clean lines and bold colors like most of the new show is shot in.

The Enerprise in the new flick is bright, black and white, bold, and theres sharp tech all over the place. This PF look kinda reminds me of a saturday morning cartoon. It's not bad art... just doesnt seem to fit as well as it could imo.

Looking forward to playing it myself. 10 years ago if someone said we'd get another Star Trek pin we'd all have laughed and dreamt of it, knowing the industry would be gone by then. We're lucky to have anything compared to where we were headed years ago, and if it costs 10K by Xmas, so be it. I can't afford it, but if others can, play on!

Oh, also needs moar lens flare...

Oh snap my thread is gonna get even more hits now!

Aaaaaaand go!

Hahahaha

Just thinking outloud... I never thought this pin would have an LCD, but being that it sure looks to be 'playing it safe' i'm actually surprised they DIDN'T toss in an LCD to push it into someone's 'omg must have' zone.

Still think it looks fun, but I think every new pin looks fun so that means nothing haha.

wow that looks damn cool. Definitely more along the lines I pictured.

Dunno if anyone else confirmed this but as I suspected there is no VUK on the Pro.

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The more i look at the upper flipper, the more i realize what a drain monster using it could be. The lock targets are just asking for trouble and I don't know how easy (or again safe) they will all be to shoot from the lower right flipper.

On top of that, the ramp looks to be at a steep angle to the flipper location.... I mean the opening is wide from post to post, but from the angle of the flipper it sure cuts down some... Looks like a similar ramp openng as HS or STTNG, but the upper flipper seems lower down the PF to me.

Maybe its just the stitched pic

It could still be a physical lock like Firepower.

Also, it looks kinda like the kickback could possibly be combo'd into the Away Team shot...?

Added a couple rumors and pricing to original post.

-LED's on PRO model
-LE's limited to 750 units

Removed pricing info. Too many different numbers floating around right now.

I think the comment regarding the PF art not standing on its own is pretty spot on. If you pull the toys off, its almost a generic pinball machine. I think a bit more could have maybe been done without resorting to photoshop pics - there are tons of screens and displays in the movie where they have this "line drawn galaxy" looking stuff going on, but its not all pastel and rainbow like. Again, I wouldn't say this art is in any way bad, it just feels off. *shrug* for all we know the license prevented much else.

Overall I think the game looks like tons of fun, probably a bit derivative of STTNG, but I dislike widebodies almost exclusively so this could be a winner from a gameplay perspective. I won't be buying as I'm currently happily holding my breath for Metallica code and I'll only be buying complete-ish games from now on.

I've seen anything from $7700 to $9000 USD mentioned with nothing to really back it up.... the Europeans were looking at even more (although they have taxes and whatnot in there too.)

A clear insert for flashers?

Well, if it were the other way around, it would be 12 pages of people saying OMG BEST EVAR! 20k BY XMAS... and then there would be complaints about 12 pages of people praising and loving a game they have never played or seen in person.

Updated original post to link to actual confirmed info. Removed all speculation junk.

Odd that between the two playfields the premium drops balls from the habitrails above the inlane switches, and the pro drops them on the switches for extra wear...

I think static pics of the pro playfield look better due to the colored inserts. Hopefully in person the led lighting thru clear inserts holds up as it kinda looks 'faded' in static pictures.

Until I see this laser projection thing and the crash sequence this is a pass for me, but I can't wait to play it.

Looks great, but I won't be content with a pro, and my Metallica purchase stemmed from loving the band.

Haha yup i'm pretty happy with how its all turned out.

I don't get the theory that the LE should have $1500 worth of upgrades... No, the cost to Stern is substantially less because within that $1500 there has to be a) profit b) cost recovery for the time and energy put into the LE features. Sure the speaker panel, or side rails maybe cost 50 bucks each, but someone had to draw them, get them approved for the license, have some prototypes made, likely redraw or re-prototype... Etc...

The only balance in pricing comes with the end user. The question isn't "what cost stern $1500 more" it's "can the end user change a premium (or pro) to an LE (or premium) for $1500?" My guess is, no you cannot easily break even on that endeavour.

Wrong sci-fi

Although a BSG pin would be a buy for me...

Your Shrek is worth what someone pays for it. STLE is worth what someone will pay for it. One is apparently worth 8k, the other isn't. Rarity doesn't directly correlate to value, it can assist but it isn't the only driver for it.

I have 2 Viza 'War' machines in my garage... They only made 200 so they must be worth $20k by your logic? Let it be known, for the bargain price of $200 these ultra rare limited availability machines can be yours to flip.

That's your opinion. In my opinion it's thriving like never before seen in the last 15 years. Are prices out of my range? You bet, but so are the prices of the new fancy spots cars, game consoles, etc.... We all have priorities, and if 8k machines sell out, they are worth 8k, regardless of your or my opinion.

More now than ever if STLE sells out. Shrek is a proven fun game (assuming you think the 'Family Guy' layout/rules/play is fun.) There were no Pros, Premiums, or LE's. Only regulars and only 600 made. Very rare. Sells for 3K less than STLE? Heck, you can go buy a Black spiderman for 7K, also a fairly new and proven game (and fewer made).

So? Proven or unproven is obviously irrelevant. New is obviously 'better' and Something is only worth what someone pays for it. Take the new dodge viper. I love the car, but its tens of thousands more than the vipers of old which used to be a 'cheap super car' - it certainly is not anymore, thus it continues to be out of my price range. Times change, so either pony up the cash or wait for prices to plummet like Avengers LE.

This is so messed up with STLE. I think there has never been a better time than now to stand up to Stern and say 'Screw you Stern' we're sick of being gouged.

I think there will be a better time... When your usage of the phrase "we're sick of being gouged" doesn't actually mean "I'm sick of being gouged". Just because you're upset doesn't mean 799 others are. The beauty of LEs is you have a LIMITED number of people to impress

And not just Stern I suppose ... the speculators. The folks hoarding games (including distributors) because they expect to automatically make 25% on their money by hoarding LE's.
STLE ... just say 'No'.

Not really germane to the discussion IMO. Hoarding or speculating machines for profit is not something stern will ever curb completely until the industry contracts again. No one buys a new car expecting to make money (I hope) and when the market for LE machines calms down the same will follow for pinball machines in theory.

100% correct, and its not Stern's responsibility to govern this. In fact, like it or not, it's in their best interest to exploit it unfortunately.

But if the game is genuinely HOT, once all is revealed, then everything will work out in the end. Really, even at this point, Stern doesn't NEED to convince anyone of anything.

Also correct. It's the consumer who needs to convince Stern that they are or are not out of line. Based on what I'm seeing I don't think that Stern is that stupid or arrogant here... Most of the complaints around price read like 'sour grapes' to me I'm afraid. The criticisms of the appearance or gameplay of the machine are always warranted IMO (Acdc pro is still ugly IMO, even if its a great game) but complaining about price and value forever and a day while machines continue to sell out makes no sense to me. If stern can convince 799 people to buy an 8k machine, why wouldn't they? Can I afford it? No, but I also can't afford a brand new car... I buy used, as I will with this pinball machine.

Not everyone is entitled to a new 'everything' be it a car, house, pinball machine, etc... Sometimes new things are for others and the used version is for the rest of us.

My only fear in all of this is stern may be contributing to this 'price bubble' which could/will eventually burst. The counter argument is that deep down I think this bubble will burst regardless of what stern does once this "2010 era" pinball fad fades away and they may as well snag the pinheads for as many dollars as they can while the getting is good.

Regardless, I think this game looks fun, and it may be 1, 5, 10, 20 years before I own it. I like STTNG and I have never owned it because its also too expensive for me right now and its ar from brand new. All I know is ill be spending a hell of a lot less than 8k on any pin moving forward, or else I will simply not buy any more pins period.

Hahaha well played

Yes and JJP's system is also under fire 24/7 so really neither pre order system is working well.

It's almost like people shouldn't pre order at all...

But that's the beauty of all this, you don't HAVE to pre order to get the LE gameplay. all the add ons are purely designed to part people from their money NOW. the Gripes with that business model are why the premiums exist now.

After tron le came out with no option for a late purchase premium model, Stern realized that the LE crowd was but one demographic of people with cash to burn. Since then, the premiums have ensured that people that want all the features can get them, and the pinheads who have to have it NOW and LIMITED will pay for it.

There's very few in-demand Limited Edition anything that last forever and don't require impulse buying. That's the whole point - "get it now before its gone", or else it's not limited at all. If they are available until the very last person decides "well maybe not" then it defeats the entire intent.