Interestingly the overall reaction seems similar to what followed the initial unveiling of AC/DC.

Yep. "The face" was a big criticism. But so was calling it a T2 clone.

I have no idea how Star Trek will turn out. Just having a bit of deja-vu.

I see what you're saying. But didn't you buy in for The Hobbit under the same set of circumstances? Price increase. LE made in greater supply. And no info to make an informed decision.

Did you consider that arrogant as well?

I'm a potential customer for both. Love both themes. And though I'm probably leaning Hobbit, I haven't seen enough of either to commit yet. But I wouldn't fault anyone for jumping in on either. They both look good to me so far.

I just don't think it's fair to call one company "arrogant" and give the other a pass for essentially the same business practices. They're both just responding to the market.

Oh, so that's your point?

I'm not sure how the payment plan affects this particular argument but you certainly have OPTION 2 with Star Trek. One could buy a premium or pro at a much later date at price points lower than anything JJP offers. And if we're talking about LEs exclusively, isn't Hobbit LE almost sold out? That means to get one you may have to commit before even seeing a completed playfield pic. Less info than what you're getting with ST. And we won't get into "if you don't commit by the end of the month the price is going up."

For the record I have no problem with how JJP does business. I'm excited for The Hobbit and like I said in an earlier post, I'm leaning towards getting one. Just pointing out that there's not that much difference with how the two companies sell LEs. They're both pressuring us to drop a lot of coin with very little upfront info.

I agree that this is the difference between the two. And yes, it's a big difference.

I don't think I understood where you were coming from before. Now I do. This is why I don't own any LEs from any company. I just can't bring myself to jump in until I have all the info. Unfortunately others are far more eager and they sell out before I can make a decision.

Overall I feel that's the wiser choice. But every once in a while you get a Tron LE, BIBLE, or WOZ that that end up being great buys if you jumped in at the beginning.

But as long as there's a premium or standard option with all the gameplay I don't complain about the LEs.

If the LED lighting on AC/DC is any indication you have nothing to worry about.