Agreed! Why a LE version at all? Great point.

LE owners get a backglass, plated legs and armor, a signature and exclusivity, what else do you want???

Do you know Stern's policy on preorders?

This I agree with, Thiel is amazing.

Love the pro. Looks good and good price.

Getting the LE. Like the added features. Don't like the price.

Not choosing Premium. Don't like the looks.

That was easy.

A closer look at the asteroid in question:

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I imagine the Pro could be the next Tron Pro as far as love for the pin and bang-for-the-buck goes. It will be interesting to see how all this pans out. I'm in for the LE with a cross-your-fingers attitude and hope that it will be awesome. A little gamble on the financial side? Yep. I just hope it works out. Hopefully worst case scenario is having a great pin which I paid too much for but keep for many, many years. Real life worst case is bad programming and a pin which I don't like which I paid too much for and sell for a loss. Like I said, it will be interesting to see how this goes.

And, for the record, the upgrade I'm most excited about is the color changing LEDs (and lots of them). They are great on the WOZ and it will be interesting to see if this is the way of the future.

The ship will probably light up like Sparky when it crashes.

I'm REALLY excited about the light show. Arguably that is one of the best developments in pinball, and Stern has been pushing things along with lights for a while. Star Trek is a big step up for them though, and the added bonus of having a nice and bright GI with spotlights .

Yeah, WOZ is weird in that you have all this amazing light show but can't see the friggin' ball at all of you play in the dark. The really need to work on their GI.

Maybe it will project something like this...
Also a good idea for a game room light feature..

I hope you can mod the PRO to add the starfield projector....

You have never even seen it and you already want it!! Haha.

I like your style!

Trust me guys you will want it

Have you seen it?

From the Pinball News site:

Meanwhile the LE gains the following features over the Premium:

Warp core resonator shaker motor
Brushed stainless steel speaker panel with laser cut emblem and grilles
Playfield signed by Steve Ritchie
Numbered plate
Certificate of authenticity
Mirrored backglass
Animated backlit laser-cut side armour
Illuminated 6" stainless steel shield emblem on backbox

So the only big difference other than cosmetics between the premium and LE is the backglass, side armor, shaker and lighted shield emblem on the backbox. Speculation is that the cut out portion of the side rails have EL paper behind them which light up in a strobing fashion (much like the opening scene of the credits in the TV show where the lights strobe down the side of the engines on the enterprise). The premium should have the star field projector then. It would have been nice for Stern to give us some idea of what the star projector and backlit side armor actually look like before they want more money from us though.

Pinball is definitely growing a bit but the target buyer is different. Stern is taking advantage of that. Simple business. You know like fashion trends. a $300 pair of crap jeans for the fall season or a $75 pair that'll last 10 years.

Nope, it's Fact. I know it, and most of us know it, that many people buy blindly. Apparently you haven't been paying attention. Do I think it's a dumb move? Absolutely. BUT.... I wasn't stating my opinion on it, I was stating the fact that it happens all the time and the reason for games (regardless of quality) end up selling before they are even released. You need to start reading a little more closely before flying off the handle and getting your panties in a twist.

now that's funny:

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so.... when does the gameplay video come up?

Thanks, but those were the games that were being talked about in the thread so it is appropriate to add them to the games linked section.

Plus, is it even possible to link to a Stern Star Trek entry yet?

If it was I would have already done it.

This. I do think JJP helped advance LED use in pinball. Very glad to see Stern doing it also. 60 RGB LED's - YEAH BABY!!!

And resettable memory drop targets. Game is going to rock.

It's a starfield projector, from a link the person I quoted had posted earlier. Back track and you'll find the link.

Here is the photo from the ebay ad. You see lasers here?

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All I can say is... I CANT WAIT UNTIL THE EXPO!!!!!!!!

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That's a Flat 8 LED Flasher. Very bright.

Agreed. But keep in mind this is a symptom of the real problem that Stern is selling out an entire product line (the LEs) without releasing full specs, game play etc. The end result is not unexpected: thousands of speculative posts still guessing what the game is going to really look like outside of photoshop, what the game features are, how they are implemented. It's fun for some, a waste of time for others.

Dude, relax. Just posted the side-by-side pic because an earlier poster made me curious.

This is the exact response I expected from you. Too bad you just can't get over yourself.

Is this the shield emblem on the side of the back box? Now that is cool.

Has anybody confirmed if this cuts out of the INSIDE of the cabinet too, Like it's shown in this picture:
http://www.sternpinball.com/upload/Games/startrek/ST%20LE.jpg

Animated? I highly doubt that. Unless they have a new definition of what animation means.

The lights strobe along and it looks like the ship is firing. LED strip on the inside too.

OMG!!! Yes, these should more than make up for the non-existent playfield artwork from the movies, no figures or characters from the movies, only ONE toy, only one song used from the actual movies, and a rehashed playfield layout. Throw in a nifty "starfield projector" (ooooohh) and you've got another Stern winner. Sign me up Scottie!!

Animated in this case means that the light sequences out from the ship like a laser firing. If you look closely at the pics, you can see the individual light blocks all in a row.

maybe there is a chaser/flasher effect.

my guess it's probably just on.

It's the speaker covers, they have blue lights inside.
http://www.pinplay.com/photo/79.html

Here's the high rez version. You can see where they attached this to the inside of the cab. Cool.
http://www.pinplay.com/photos/original/pp000078_YNT5KljI4XBzJWo.jpg
Should be animated like they say. I'm hoping it's tied into game play, otherwise it would be a distraction to have it going off at fixed intervals.

Ok, that looks like a an LED strip that just pulses up and down. I bet they cut slits in the cab so you can see it through the armor.

The box that the Vengeance and spring sit on looks different in these hi-res photos of the pro vs. premium/LE. Looks like a door is sprung up on the Premium/LE, while the Pro just looks very different, I.E. not the door being in the down position.

Still trolling the thread I see.

The thread made a comeback!

_{Post edited by The_Dude_Abides : CraZ4Pin you have said your piece in this thread it is time to stop. Please let others continue the discussion without your continued responses.}

How does he still have an account? I thought this was a moderated forum. LOL.

If we're dealing with semantics here, what should I expect in a "Warp core resonator shaker motor"?

I'm thinking it will be very very very similar to a shaker motor.

Yep. It's well past time that a moderator took notice at the number of harrassing comments this troll has been making and throw him a ban notice. Nothing constructive in the slightest.

So the old school Lockdown bar and playfield slide rails are not included on the LE either? Have they leaving those out of the latest LE's (Metallica, Avengers, etc)?

Cool, thanks for the pictures. However the spec sheet says the emblems are six inches. Judging from the height of the DMD (3.75-4") which look to be the same hight as the emblem in the picture. How can the emblem be six inches tall? Maybe an optical illusion?

The Prem/LE has an open front cuz the ship's mech allows it to fall forward when it crashes. The Pro doesn't have that mech, so it just has a plastic screwed into the front. It's not a door.

Are you incapable of any counter-argument or is resorting to the overused "troll" name calling all you have? I suppose you're right though, this thread is much down to the few who are throwing their money at this crap and rejoicing in their stupidity.

There is nothing overused about calling you what you are in this thread: TROLL.

You even backed it up further with this post, with additional personal insults. You've called us "suckers", "stupid", and STLE "crap".

But no, you aren't a troll.

CraZ4Pin made the post I quoted above, not Chambahz. I'm trying to edit the post but the server is super slow right now

Yeah, I think spidey is wrong. It's the emblems on the side of the backbox that light up.