Yes, there's a reason it can't be the voice actors or DMD footage used in the movies. If this rumor is true, it's not a Sony movie license. It's a Marvel comic license. They will not have the rights to use ANY movie footage/storyline/voice clips.

-They could (and will) reuse the code. So, it would probably be SAM unless SAM code is easy to port to SPIKE.
-They could re-use the music, as it was original and not movie based.
-They could *maybe* re-use J.K. Simmons voice, as it was all custom and not really tied to any movie narrative.

Yeah they've gone for about 3 years or so now. Last year I believe they had IMve and Metallica. They'll probably bring Kiss and something else this year (WWE? Met? ST?). Would be the perfect place for a Spidey announcement.

Mark, you don't understand licensing.

EVERYTHING on that playfield is from the MOVIES. They're all from the movies' style guides for movie licensed products. There are Spider-Man toys, lunchboxes, etc all featuring that same art.

If they do a VE without Sony's movie license - they can use NOTHING from that art package. Not even the logo.

Nope. Even though the toys WERE custom for the game, they're based on the movie versions. Comic Book Green Goblin & Doc Ock especially don't look like the movie versions.

Doc Ock looks like Alfred Molina. Sandman looks like Thomas Hayden Church. Venom is the movie design. All toys would be redesigned to resemble comic book versions.

Stern made them. They weren't off the shelf. If it was a movie license they could make it again....but we're going with the rumor that it's a comic book Marvel license....so they couldn't use them anyway.

Exactly - and while I think a hand drawn comic Spidey could be amazing....it could falter with a poorly written/directed sound package. Would be a shame to see Spidey go the route of X-Men audio.

The expensive part of making a pinball is the design & coding process. That's done and over on Spidey. Coming up with a new art/sound/dots package is pretty minor...if they can sell 500-1000 units, that's like selling a game with a "free" development process - it would be massively profitable compared to a brand new game from scratch.

Again, if this is comic based - it won't use any of the scenarios from the movie...they can change "You Ooze You Loose" to a different mode/story entirely.

They're nothing a like. Spider-Man is excellent and X-Men is excrement.

0% chance they'll base it on that shitty low budget Sat AM art. It'll look like good, more current comic book Spidey art

Absolutely wrong. The playfield and cabinet are assets from Sony's movie style guide. Every logo & character is theirs and part of their license. Every mode is based on the movie events.

It is ALL changing like FGY to Shrek. Same rules, new art/sound/story.

It's the same font they use for Playstation! That's how "Sony" it is!

Zero. Keep the line moving. People who want GOT will still want GOT. They always have multiple titles for sale. They don't worry about "one stealing sales" from the other - they'll all sell.

Double that.

They sold 500 with demand for more...and it's back in production as we speak.

I guess we'll see - plenty of comic book Spidey fans who already like the game but don't own it, and will bite based on art package. The game design & code is already a known factor - we already know it's a ton of fun, plays great, and has completed code. This isn't as much of a "blind faith" launch purchase as other new games.

It is on a Premium game.

Last LE I bought was STLE...when did they change the Premiums/LEs to latch style?

Well not sure how Flynnibus expects I would have noticed that then...lol.

I'm not anti-latch...I have them on my IM VE, and they hold the bar down super snug. That being said, the "old style" hardware had become part of the LE "added value"...that's kind of a bummer that something else has been taken away as the prices rise.

Are we at plastic aprons for all models now, too? I know TWD Prem/LE had plastic, but I chalked that up to it using the same special apron shape as Austin Powers for the laser cannon...er, crossbow. Austin's was plastic, too.

Missing? Did you Take inventory or something? I heard 500 so... I dunno

Generally speaking, if you can afford a $5000 toy, you can afford a $6000 toy. That's Stern's logic, anyway - and it's worked. Prices have increased and so have sales.

It would be pointless anyway - what would a "kit" entail? Full cab decals & a populated playfield? Probably would be cheaper/easier to just buy the new version and sell your old one.

Video takes up more space than traditional dots. Should work fine unless they switch some wiring around or something. FG code works on Shrek and vice versa.

You're just talking about principal...that's different than not being able to afford it. I'm the same way - I'm generally out on NIB purchases just because it makes me feel ridiculous to spend that much. I'll probably suck it up and bite on a title that really resonates with me like Ghostbusters...but I'm not "impulse buying" every new game like I was a few years ago.

I still say that if you're a person who would spend $5k on a "toy", you "could" spend a bit more and not have to starve in order to do so.

That John's Arcade video showed the Spider-Man wiring harness on the CURRENT production line. You still think it's a rumor?

Test machines? A Spider-Man harness is specific to Spider-Man...the only machine you'd need to test with that harness is a Spider-Man....and Spider-Man is an old well tested game - it doesn't need further testing. They were building Spider-Man (or preparing to), brotha.

??? Black was the same as red aside from the art and metal trim. This is a whole new art/sound package.

I'm more interested the audio/dots package. I think the art will be fine. Since they're going comics, it should at least look as good as X-Men. But what about the sound? The movie's gave them tons of great villain performances from Alfred Molina, Willem Dafoe, etc. The potential is there as they can write any dialog or mode stories they want - really interested to see how it gets pulled off. This element is what might sway me to revisit Spider-Man.

You misunderstand. New Spidey is comic based not movie based. Everything will
be new. Plot, writing and voices = new (and probably music, too). There will be all new voices. Hopefully good voice actors & not a repeat of the terrible X-Men audio nightmare. If they botch the new audio - original Movie-based Spidey will be the definitive version.

Ummmm....you do realize Spider-Man is a comic book character, right?

Consumer Electronics Show.

Stern makes electronic products. Their presence showing current and new products is nothing out of the ordinary. This version of Spider-Man is a new product. They're there to sell pinball to the public - the public doesn't care about hobby-talk.

They'll still need SAM boards & components to service thousands of games that were sold using that hardware. SAM will be a part of their lives in some capacity...another game on SAM right now wouldn't be out of the ordinary. They kept running TSPP and LOTR on Whitestar long after SAM was introduced.

Pinball is inherently retro. A pinball company is there to show their pinball products - not time-travelling iPad-imbedded solar-powered toasters or whatever. There isn't a tech litmus test to get a booth at CES. They're an electronics company. They're there to show electronic products. Simple.

Oh absolutely - but in relation to the CES...an LCD screen is "old tech" But yeah, I'm completely ready for Stern to finally go color. That might have pushed me toward a purchase on GoT...as it stands, I'm skipping that title.

You're partially wrong. Goblin is clearly attached to the plastic and lost his spring mech. Doc Ock and Sandman look like they're on moving mechs, though. If Ock didn't move, the magnet wouldn't be able to grab the ball. Sandman also has to block the ball so you can attack him when the 3-bank drops.

Nah, look at again at the high rez pics from IGN. Sandmand's black platform is attached to the up/down mech. Looks like he'll lower to be flush w/ the playfield - and the ball will actually hit the toy.

Nope, look. You can see the up/down piece mounted behind it. There's a perfect space between the plastics for him to move up and down.

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How is that possible? Blinded by purple light?

Sandman is down until you hit him enough times for his final shot. He raises, and then you hit the ball behind him into the saucer & watch the "mode finish" sequence.

There's already a "Pro" version designed....the Costco version!